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1. 08:05 AM - Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 (woxofswa)
2. 06:54 PM - $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Jae Chang)
3. 07:24 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Miller John)
4. 07:55 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Lyle Peterson)
5. 08:18 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (David Saylor)
6. 08:22 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Berck E. Nash)
7. 08:37 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Linn Walters)
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| Subject: | Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 |
I deeply apologize, but planets got out of alignment and I am forced to make the
agonizing decision to scrub bringing the land based RV and hosting of the nest
and lunch. I have always enjoyed the experience and support but it just isn't
coming together this year.
I hope to fly over in the rv10 and hang out at least part of the time.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448085#448085
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| Subject: | Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause |
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_of_girl_4_who_perished.html
I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it is
coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. This is
just sad all around.
--
#40533 RV-10
First flight 10/19/2011
Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause |
Here is a link to the actual lawsuit. What a crock of crap filed
against Van=92s!
http://media.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/other/experimental.cras
h.suit.pdf
<http://media.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/other/experimental.cra
sh.suit.pdf>
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
wrote:
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<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
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> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733
>
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_
of_girl_4_who_perished.html
>
> I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it
is coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. This
is just sad all around.
>
> --
> #40533 RV-10
> First flight 10/19/2011
> Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause |
This is just one example, among many, of the greed of lawyers. When
they awake in the morning all they see is dollar signs. The lullaby
they sing to their children at bed time consists of the repeated sound
of a cash register. They bend, distort and expand without limit any
fact or rumor they can get their grubby little hands on.
They also believe, as most liars do, that repeating a lie will make it
true. Witness the repetition in the law suit. It only says the same
thing about four times, if not by verbatim repetition then by
reference. Do lawyers get paid by the word count in the complaint?
This smacks of the same idiocy when an RV-6 crashed with the stick tied
back by the passenger seat belt. The pilot's death was alleged to be
the fault of the fire department's slow response to the crash.
Lyle Peterson
An innocent bystander until some lawyer finds my name.
Do not archive
On 10/19/2015 9:20 PM, Miller John wrote:
> Here is a link to the actual lawsuit. What a crock of crap filed
> against Vans!
>
> http://media.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/other/experimental.crash.suit.pdf
>
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com
>> <mailto:jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>> wrote:
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>> <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com <mailto:jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>>
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>> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733
>> http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_of_girl_4_who_perished.html
>>
>> I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it
>> is coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article.
>> This is just sad all around.
>>
>> --
>> #40533 RV-10
>> First flight 10/19/2011
>> Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
>> do not archive
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause |
This tragic accident was avoidable by following standard practices.
Hopefully it's heard by an aviation judge, who would see all kinds of flaws
with the "arguments" the suit presents.
--Dave
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
wrote:
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> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733
>
> http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_of_girl_4_who_perished.html
>
> I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it is
> coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. This is
> just sad all around.
>
> --
> #40533 RV-10
> First flight 10/19/2011
> Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause |
Infuriating.
"Van's recklessly sells its aircraft kits to ordinary consumers by
ensuring them that even though those consumers are deemed the 'builder'
of the aircraft, they do not need any experience or special knowledge to
safely assemble the aircraft, but can safely assemble the aircraft by
following Van's detailed assembly plans and utilizing Van's support,"
the suit states."
Vans recklessly sells its kits to inept pilots incapable of performing
the most basic task required of a pilot: fly the airplane. Worse, the
lawyers of the families of said inept pilots would like to ruin it for
the rest of us. I'd like to hope Van's fights, but I'm sure they cave
with a settlement large enough to encourage the sharks.
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| Subject: | Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause |
All the defense attorney needs is a copy of AC 43-13 to blow that
lawsuit to shreds.
It's a PITA for Vans but that's the way the world is today.
Anybody can sue anybody if they have the money ..... or the smell of it.
Linn
On 10/19/2015 11:15 PM, David Saylor wrote:
> This tragic accident was avoidable by following standard practices.
>
> Hopefully it's heard by an aviation judge, who would see all kinds of
> flaws with the "arguments" the suit presents.
>
> --Dave
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