---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/19/15: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:05 AM - Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 (woxofswa) 2. 06:54 PM - $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Jae Chang) 3. 07:24 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Miller John) 4. 07:55 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Lyle Peterson) 5. 08:18 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (David Saylor) 6. 08:22 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Berck E. Nash) 7. 08:37 PM - Re: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause (Linn Walters) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:24 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2015 From: "woxofswa" I deeply apologize, but planets got out of alignment and I am forced to make the agonizing decision to scrub bringing the land based RV and hosting of the nest and lunch. I have always enjoyed the experience and support but it just isn't coming together this year. I hope to fly over in the rv10 and hang out at least part of the time. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Flew May 10 2014 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448085#448085 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:58 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause From: Jae Chang http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733 http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_of_girl_4_who_perished.html I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it is coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. This is just sad all around. -- #40533 RV-10 First flight 10/19/2011 Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:19 PM PST US From: Miller John Subject: Re: RV10-List: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause Here is a link to the actual lawsuit. What a crock of crap filed against Van=92s! http://media.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/other/experimental.cras h.suit.pdf > On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Jae Chang wrote: > > > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733 > http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_ of_girl_4_who_perished.html > > I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it is coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. This is just sad all around. > > -- > #40533 RV-10 > First flight 10/19/2011 > Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 > do not archive > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause From: Lyle Peterson This is just one example, among many, of the greed of lawyers. When they awake in the morning all they see is dollar signs. The lullaby they sing to their children at bed time consists of the repeated sound of a cash register. They bend, distort and expand without limit any fact or rumor they can get their grubby little hands on. They also believe, as most liars do, that repeating a lie will make it true. Witness the repetition in the law suit. It only says the same thing about four times, if not by verbatim repetition then by reference. Do lawyers get paid by the word count in the complaint? This smacks of the same idiocy when an RV-6 crashed with the stick tied back by the passenger seat belt. The pilot's death was alleged to be the fault of the fire department's slow response to the crash. Lyle Peterson An innocent bystander until some lawyer finds my name. Do not archive On 10/19/2015 9:20 PM, Miller John wrote: > Here is a link to the actual lawsuit. What a crock of crap filed > against Vans! > > http://media.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/other/experimental.crash.suit.pdf > >> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Jae Chang > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733 >> http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_of_girl_4_who_perished.html >> >> I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it >> is coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. >> This is just sad all around. >> >> -- >> #40533 RV-10 >> First flight 10/19/2011 >> Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:51 PM PST US From: David Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause This tragic accident was avoidable by following standard practices. Hopefully it's heard by an aviation judge, who would see all kinds of flaws with the "arguments" the suit presents. --Dave On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Jae Chang wrote: > > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=113733 > > http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/family_of_girl_4_who_perished.html > > I found this previous posting on this crash in Oregon. Looks like it is > coming back to Vans as a lawsuit. Lawsuit linked in the article. This is > just sad all around. > > -- > #40533 RV-10 > First flight 10/19/2011 > Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause From: "Berck E. Nash" Infuriating. "Van's recklessly sells its aircraft kits to ordinary consumers by ensuring them that even though those consumers are deemed the 'builder' of the aircraft, they do not need any experience or special knowledge to safely assemble the aircraft, but can safely assemble the aircraft by following Van's detailed assembly plans and utilizing Van's support," the suit states." Vans recklessly sells its kits to inept pilots incapable of performing the most basic task required of a pilot: fly the airplane. Worse, the lawyers of the families of said inept pilots would like to ruin it for the rest of us. I'd like to hope Van's fights, but I'm sure they cave with a settlement large enough to encourage the sharks. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: $35M Lawsuit was Re: NTSB - Probable Cause From: Linn Walters All the defense attorney needs is a copy of AC 43-13 to blow that lawsuit to shreds. It's a PITA for Vans but that's the way the world is today. Anybody can sue anybody if they have the money ..... or the smell of it. Linn On 10/19/2015 11:15 PM, David Saylor wrote: > This tragic accident was avoidable by following standard practices. > > Hopefully it's heard by an aviation judge, who would see all kinds of > flaws with the "arguments" the suit presents. > > --Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.