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0. 10:09 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle)
1. 08:28 AM - Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Carlos Trigo)
2. 08:30 AM - Fw: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Carlos Trigo)
3. 09:41 AM - Re: Fw: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Bob Turner)
4. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Pascal)
5. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Carl Froehlich)
6. 11:52 AM - Re: Fw: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Linn Walters)
7. 12:17 PM - Re: Fw: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment (Kelly McMullen)
8. 01:11 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build (Michael Sausen)
9. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build (Dj Merrill)
10. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build (Pascal)
11. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build (Dj Merrill)
12. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build (Pascal)
13. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build (Dj Merrill)
14. 03:00 PM - Re: Stratux Build (Sean Stephens)
15. 06:09 PM - Re: Stratux Build (Dj Merrill)
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| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
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| Subject: | Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
Guys
The plans say to align the aileron, in its neutral position, to the flap when the
flap's leading edge hits
Enviado do meu iPhone
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| Subject: | Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
Enviado do meu iPhone
Too fast hit in the send button....
>
> Guys
>
> The plans say to align the aileron, in its neutral position, to the flap when
the flap's leading edge hits the wing rear spar doubler.
But doing this, the trailing edge of the FG wing tip does not align with the aileron.
What to do?
Carlos
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
This is common. Fiberglass wingtips too high, too low, too long, etc. You may need
to slice open the joint, bend and re-glue, or sand shorter or add glass to
lengthen. Don't forget to clamp the elevator neutral during the aileron adjustments
- they do move, in tandem, with fore-aft stick motion.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449271#449271
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
Bob beat me to my response. I was sying to assure the aileron and flap line
up. that is your priority, than I did as Bob mentioned I molded and shapped
the trailing edge of the wingtip to fit. I recall sanding and reinforcement
but I also recall clamping the wingtip to align with aileron (that was
clamped and aligned with Flap) and used a heat gun to soften the fiberglass
to get the last bit of alignment, than finally added some fiberglass cloth
to reinforcement that area. To this day the alignment is the same.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Turner
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:38 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment
This is common. Fiberglass wingtips too high, too low, too long, etc. You
may need to slice open the joint, bend and re-glue, or sand shorter or add
glass to lengthen. Don't forget to clamp the elevator neutral during the
aileron adjustments - they do move, in tandem, with fore-aft stick motion.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449271#449271
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
This is the reason I tell any builder who will listen to not fit the
wingtips until after you put on the wings (at least temporarily), really
make sure you have the flaps rigged right, then rig the ailerons. Do not
rely on the Van's aileron template for rigging. It will get you close but
not close enough.
Make sure you do as Bob says on clamping the elevators in neutral before
doing any flap, aileron or wing tip fitting. I chased my tail forgetting to
do that a few times.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment
This is common. Fiberglass wingtips too high, too low, too long, etc. You
may need to slice open the joint, bend and re-glue, or sand shorter or add
glass to lengthen. Don't forget to clamp the elevator neutral during the
aileron adjustments - they do move, in tandem, with fore-aft stick motion.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449271#449271
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| Subject: | Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment |
I think that method works best. By having wing, flaps and ailerons
installed and rigged first, then you position the tip to line up, secure
it as best you can, and only then drill the screw holes for the tips.
On 11/13/2015 12:43 PM, Linn Walters wrote:
> Same problem on my friends RV-7. You can drill a hole in the tip on
> the side that's high, about 8-10" from leading edge, cleco, and push
> the tip TE so it aligns with aileron. Use a ratchet strap from wing
> LE to tip TE to hold the tip in place to drill and rivet.
> We also used two ratchet straps to hold the tip to the wing.
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
> Date: 11/13/2015 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject RV10-List: Fwd: Flap + aileron + wing tip alignment
>
>
>
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
>
> Too fast hit in the send button....
>
> >
> > Guys
> >
> > The plans say to align the aileron, in its neutral position, to the
> flap when the flap's leading edge hits the wing rear spar doubler.
>
> But doing this, the trailing edge of the FG wing tip does not align
> with the aileron.
>
> What to do?
>
> Carlos
>
> >
> > Enviado do meu iPhone
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build |
I'll second what DJ said. I've been messing around with it for the last couple
months and being near the FAF for 18R at DFW, I see plenty of traffic. Now I
just need to find someone to print a case for me.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dj Merrill
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build
On 11/12/2015 7:55 PM, Justin Jones wrote:
> For those of you looking for an inexpensive solution for an ADS-B in (with AHRS
if desired), this appears to be a relatively easy project. I am going to tackle
it early next month.
It is very easy. I gathered the parts together and assembled it inside a 3D printed
case during one of our EAA meetings.
I had a chance to fly with it a couple of weeks ago, and the iPad/Stratux/WingX
combination saw the same ADS-B traffic as the SkyRadar/GRT-HX combination.
There is a beginners guide here:
https://github.com/ssokol/stratux/wiki/Stratux-Beginner's-Guide
The 3D case files can be found at:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1019324
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build |
On 11/13/2015 04:07 PM, Michael Sausen wrote:
> Now I just need to find someone to print a case for me.
Plenty of places that will do that for you.
The first is http://www.makexyz.com/
You upload your files to the website, and they will give you a quote.
The 2 part case I posted is about $50 from them, including shipping.
The second is sort of a broker service. You upload your files, and get
to choose from a bunch of places:
http://www.3dhubs.com
I'm sure there are other options.
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build |
Unless you're going dual, you dont need a case. It comes with it, if not
there should be an extender to make it work. That may be easier than
building a new case?
I just need to figure out how to get it to work on FlightPlanGO. It
supposedly does already, just nothing explaining how?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dj Merrill
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build
On 11/13/2015 04:07 PM, Michael Sausen wrote:
> Now I just need to find someone to print a case for me.
Plenty of places that will do that for you.
The first is http://www.makexyz.com/
You upload your files to the website, and they will give you a quote.
The 2 part case I posted is about $50 from them, including shipping.
The second is sort of a broker service. You upload your files, and get
to choose from a bunch of places:
http://www.3dhubs.com
I'm sure there are other options.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build |
On 11/13/2015 4:49 PM, Pascal wrote:
> Unless you're going dual, you dont need a case. It comes with it, if
> not there should be an extender to make it work. That may be easier than
> building a new case?
The Stratux DIY project does not come with a case, you have to either
make something or buy something.
Too many parts and wires not to put all the various pieces inside
something, plus the case holds the antennas properly.
Search the term "stratux" on http://www.thingiverse.com for options,
including a case for the single band version.
For the very tiny cost increase, I can't imagine why one wouldn't build
the dual band version.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build |
I was referring to the link for the starter kit
(http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MV6TAJI/ref=cm_sw_su_dp) Raspberry Pi 2 +
Edimax WiFi + Preloaded 8GB SD Card + Case + Power
Yes in the case of the Dual case- one may need to replace the case with one
that works for 2 USB next/top of each other.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dj Merrill
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build
On 11/13/2015 4:49 PM, Pascal wrote:
> Unless you're going dual, you dont need a case. It comes with it, if
> not there should be an extender to make it work. That may be easier than
> building a new case?
The Stratux DIY project does not come with a case, you have to either
make something or buy something.
Too many parts and wires not to put all the various pieces inside
something, plus the case holds the antennas properly.
Search the term "stratux" on http://www.thingiverse.com for options,
including a case for the single band version.
For the very tiny cost increase, I can't imagine why one wouldn't build
the dual band version.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Stratux Build |
On 11/13/2015 5:24 PM, Pascal wrote:
>
> I was referring to the link for the starter kit
> (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MV6TAJI/ref=cm_sw_su_dp) Raspberry Pi 2 +
> Edimax WiFi + Preloaded 8GB SD Card + Case + Power
>
> Yes in the case of the Dual case- one may need to replace the case with
> one that works for 2 USB next/top of each other.
Ah! That case is just for the Raspberry Pi, and doesn't enclose any of
the other parts of the Stratux system (GPS, Antennas, various wiring, etc).
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: Stratux Build |
makerxyz was ~$130.00 for the single band case in nylon. I'm sure the
dual would be more.
3dhubs didn't find anything cheaper than ~$180.00 for the single case in
nylon.
Planned on nylon for better heat tolerance, which bumps up the price.
What material did you have it printed in?
-Sean
> Dj Merrill <mailto:deej@deej.net>
> November 13, 2015 at 3:17 PM
>
>
> Plenty of places that will do that for you.
>
> The first is http://www.makexyz.com/
> You upload your files to the website, and they will give you a quote.
> The 2 part case I posted is about $50 from them, including shipping.
>
> The second is sort of a broker service. You upload your files, and get
> to choose from a bunch of places:
> http://www.3dhubs.com
>
>
> I'm sure there are other options.
>
> -Dj
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stratux Build |
On 11/13/2015 5:57 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
> Planned on nylon for better heat tolerance, which bumps up the price.
> What material did you have it printed in?
ABS plastic. 3dhubs was something like $35.
-Dj
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