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Sun 11/15/15


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     0. 10:59 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
     1. 05:49 AM - Re: Wheel Servicing (Albert)
     2. 07:22 AM - Re: Wheel Servicing (Bill Watson)
     3. 08:00 AM - Re: Wheel Servicing (kearney)
     4. 08:21 AM - Speaking of tyres / wheels (kearney)
     5. 10:01 AM - Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels (Tim Olson)
     6. 10:03 AM - Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels (Jesse Saint)
     7. 10:16 AM - Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels (kearney)
     8. 12:03 PM - Re: Wheel Servicing (Linn Walters)
     9. 12:12 PM - Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels (Linn Walters)
    10. 12:58 PM - Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels (Les Kearney)
    11. 02:56 PM - Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels (Linn Walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:59:58 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Reminder
    Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator


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    Time: 05:49:49 AM PST US
    From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Wheel Servicing
    Harbor Freight has some hi-lift bottle jacks that work well. Drilled a hole in the top of the ram to receive a threaded rod that replaces the tie down ring. Little plywood to make a stablizing stand and it works well. Albert Gardner RV-10 N991RV Yuma, AZ Hi I am just starting my annual inspection and have a couple of questions related to wheel servicing. There are: 1. Does anyone have a simple / safe / effective means for lifting and supporting a wing while a wheel is removed. I have a motorcycle jack that I have used under the fuse but am wondering if there is something better. Les


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    Time: 07:22:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel Servicing
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Here's my HF bottle jack setup )thanks to other posters/builders) Wing Jack using HF bottle jack and plywood <http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=7984&log=154391&row=14> Electrical conduit worked over with a vise completes the jack. Use carriage bolts on the conduit ends. The rounded ends keep the plywood just far enough off the concrete floor to keep it dry and slide easily. And it works on mud.... This jack got a good work out when I recently got stuck in the mud. I was able to easily jack up a wing at a time, put ply underneath each wheel and roll it out. The carriage bolt head on the dimpled bottle jack shaft is amazingly stable and secure. It would make an ugly hole if the wing fell off the jack but I'm now quite confident of its security. On 11/15/2015 8:46 AM, Albert wrote: > Harbor Freight has some hi-lift bottle jacks that work well. Drilled a hole > in the top of the ram to receive a threaded rod that replaces the tie down > ring. Little plywood to make a stablizing stand and it works well. > Albert Gardner > RV-10 N991RV > Yuma, AZ > > Hi > I am just starting my annual inspection and have a couple of questions > related to wheel servicing. There are: > > 1. Does anyone have a simple / safe / effective means for lifting and > supporting a wing while a wheel is removed. I have a motorcycle jack that I > have used under the fuse but am wondering if there is something better. > Les >


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    Time: 08:00:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel Servicing
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    HI Kelly You are quite right - I was careless in my wording. Side to side swapping only changes the rotation direction of the wheel but not the tread in contact with the ground. I should have said reversing the tire on the wheel. My only excuse is that it was a long day yesterday taking things apart...... Cheers Les Kellym wrote: > Depends on the type of aircraft. You can use a padded sawhorse if it is > tall enough and you have helper to move it in place. Or most wing jacks > work fine when you replace tie down eye with a round headed carriage > bolt for the jack point. > To get even wear you would have to reverse the tire on the wheel. > Swapping wheels side for side will not do anything. > > On 11/14/2015 7:33 PM, kearney wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I am just starting my annual inspection and have a couple of questions related to wheel servicing. There are: > > > > 1. Does anyone have a simple / safe / effective means for lifting and supporting a wing while a wheel is removed. I have a motorcycle jack that I have used under the fuse but am wondering if there is something better. > > > > 2. How often should tires be swapped from side to side > > > > Cheers > > > > Les > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449398#449398 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449415#449415


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    Time: 08:21:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms Inquiring minds need to know.... Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416


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    Time: 10:01:31 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    Keep in mind we use tube tires so any sensor would have to integrate to the tube not the tire. Tim > On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:18 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Hi > > Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. > > This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. > > For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: > > http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Les > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:03:13 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    As a simple data point, I had a blow-out on landing once in a -10. It did shred the wheel pant, but there was not a strong pull to that side. There was some, but it was easy to keep the plane on the runway. In this case, a floor dolly and a couple of young guys to squat the wing to get the jack under it did the trick to free up the runway. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. 352-427-0285 jesse@saintaviation.com Sent from my iPad > On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:18 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Hi > > Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. > > This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. > > For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: > > http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Les > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:16:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Tim Some of the sensor systems seem to use pressurized caps. The problem with that is if the cap fails - well you have a warning of the impending issue. What I would really like is to put a SMartThings hub in the hanger and then be able tyre pressure remotely. That way I could catch a pressure problem before my wheel pants get broken. But perhaps that is just way too much tech - even for a -10 . Chees Les Tim Olson wrote: > Keep in mind we use tube tires so any sensor would have to integrate to the tube not the tire. > Tim > > > > > > On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:18 AM, kearney wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. > > > > This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. > > > > For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms > > > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > > > Les > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449423#449423


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    Time: 12:03:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel Servicing
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Back from the cruise ..... Here's what I did. Bought a scissor jack that fits under the nut on the nosewheel. Jack it up and do your tire work. For removing the fork you'll have to place a sawhorse under the fuse. Bought a 3' X 3/4" dia. pipe and inserted into the axle on main gear. Remove the axle nut. Use the scissor jack way out on the end of the pipe and jack up 'till the tire is 2" off the floor. Remove brake pad. Slide the wheel off onto the pipe. Measure the height of axle center to the floor .... X". Glue two pieces of 2X4 2x" long together on the 4" side or use 4X4. Drill a 1" hole in the center (1X from end) through the glue line. Cut in half giving two pieces of 4X4 that's X" long with a groove in it. Put it under the axle and lower the jack. Remove the pipe and service the wheel. I used this a lot when I was fitting the wheel pants after the initial screw-hole locations had been done because I elected to epoxy the lower fairing to the wheel pant. Linn On 11/14/2015 9:33 PM, kearney wrote: > > Hi > > I am just starting my annual inspection and have a couple of questions related to wheel servicing. There are: > > 1. Does anyone have a simple / safe / effective means for lifting and supporting a wing while a wheel is removed. I have a motorcycle jack that I have used under the fuse but am wondering if there is something better. > > 2. How often should tires be swapped from side to side > > Cheers > > Les > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449398#449398 > >


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    Time: 12:12:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    That sensor is made to go inside the tire with the stem out. Won't work with tube-type tires. However, they make screw-on sensors that replace the Schrader valve cap for tube-type tires. Don't know if the caps hit the axle nut on angle valve tubes. I have 90* stems so it wouldn't be a problem until I tried to get them off and put air in the tire with the wheel pants on. As Jesse said .... flat tire is a non-event so I'd pass on the TPMS system and just plan on a landing with a bad tire each time. If your other car is a tail dragger you already have that skill. ;-) Linn ..... painting On 11/15/2015 11:18 AM, kearney wrote: > > Hi > > Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. > > This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. > > For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: > > http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms > > Inquiring minds need to know.... > > Les > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416 > >


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    Time: 12:58:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Lin How did you manage access to the stems? I was think of putting 90 degree extensions on as well but was unsure if there was enough clearance. Cheers Les Dropping your pants to check your pressure is a pain. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2015, at 13:09, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > That sensor is made to go inside the tire with the stem out. Won't work with tube-type tires. However, they make screw-on sensors that replace the Schrader valve cap for tube-type tires. Don't know if the caps hit the axle nut on angle valve tubes. I have 90* stems so it wouldn't be a problem until I tried to get them off and put air in the tire with the wheel pants on. > > As Jesse said .... flat tire is a non-event so I'd pass on the TPMS system and just plan on a landing with a bad tire each time. If your other car is a tail dragger you already have that skill. ;-) > Linn ..... painting > > >> On 11/15/2015 11:18 AM, kearney wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. >> >> This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. >> >> For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms >> >> Inquiring minds need to know.... >> >> Les >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416 > > > > >


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    Time: 02:56:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Speaking of tyres / wheels
    From: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Folks may not like my solution, and for various reasons don't recommend anyone else do it. I drilled a new hole in the wheel to accept the 90* stem. I chamfered the original hole on both sides and filled it with flox to form a plug. Assembled the wheel and all was right again in the world. When I'm done building (in painting mode right now), I'll get a tire extension and drill a hole at the base of the wheel pant just large enough for the extension to go through and lined up with the valve stem. Screw on the extension and fill the tire. Whoops!!! How to get the stem lined up with that tiny hole? Get the tire all lined up and paint a line on the inside of the tire wall .... and you can see the white mark as you pull the plane forward with your towbar. Linn On 11/15/2015 3:55 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > > Lin > > How did you manage access to the stems? > > I was think of putting 90 degree extensions on as well but was unsure if there was enough clearance. > > Cheers > > Les > > Dropping your pants to check your pressure is a pain. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 15, 2015, at 13:09, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote: >> >> >> That sensor is made to go inside the tire with the stem out. Won't work with tube-type tires. However, they make screw-on sensors that replace the Schrader valve cap for tube-type tires. Don't know if the caps hit the axle nut on angle valve tubes. I have 90* stems so it wouldn't be a problem until I tried to get them off and put air in the tire with the wheel pants on. >> >> As Jesse said .... flat tire is a non-event so I'd pass on the TPMS system and just plan on a landing with a bad tire each time. If your other car is a tail dragger you already have that skill. ;-) >> Linn ..... painting >> >> >>> On 11/15/2015 11:18 AM, kearney wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Speaking of tryes and wheels, a friend was flying his Maule recently and ended up with a near flat tyre on landing. He suspects he developed a leak while in flight or shortly before takeoff as pre-flight was normal. >>> >>> This led to an exciting but fortunately painless landing. If he had known one of his wheels was soft he would have been better prepared for things. >>> >>> For years I have had TPMS in my car. Has anyone found a RV10 compatible tire pressure sensor system? I found this on Amazon: >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Monitoring-STEELMATE-Cigarette-Accessories/dp/B015QTPIRO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1447603580&sr=8-7&keywords=steelmate+tpms >>> >>> Inquiring minds need to know.... >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449416#449416 >> >> >> >> > >




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