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0. 09:21 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle)
1. 09:08 AM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts (Bill Watson)
2. 09:34 AM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts (Marcus Cooper)
3. 10:19 AM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts (Jae Chang)
4. 10:33 AM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts (P Reid)
5. 12:11 PM - Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts (Jae Chang)
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| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed
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That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts |
I recently bought replacement struts from Bansbach as well. The
original Vans struts still worked but one door started coming down if
the wind hit it wrong. I have a flush latch, aftermarket center cam,
lock, upholstery, etc - not light.
On 3/9/15 I purchased (2) A1A1F50-100-287/600N 10017y1 struts for
$51.89 plus $19.27 S&H.
They installed easily (i.e. throw seemed to exactly fit what was needed
- no compression required.
They now work just right in all respects.
Just another data point.
Bill "on a TG family visitation mission" Watson
On 11/24/2015 9:50 PM, Bruce Hoppe wrote:
> I managed to break the plastic clevis on one of the Vans supplied gas
> struts. The stroke of the standard gas struts is too long, at least
> for my plane making them very difficult to install without unbolting
> the doors.
>
> I bought two replacements from Bansbach.com <http://bansbach.com> in
> Florida with machined aluminum clevises, a shorter stroke and 580
> newtons force or 130 lbs force, which is only 5 lbs lower than Vans
> heavy duty struts. They are much easier to install because the stroke
> matched my open door pin-to-pin gap and a little higher force than
> Vans standard. Plus, the aluminum clevises seem more "aircraft-like".
> Here is what I bought:
> *
> *
> - A1 M8 Hinge Eye End Fitting on one end
> - A2 M8 Hinge Eye End Fitting on other end
> - B0N0F50-100-247/XXXN Gas Spring 4"(100mm) Stroke 10"(247mm) Extended
> Length with 580 newton force
>
> Total Cost, including both end fittings was less than $40 each
>
> Bruce Hoppe
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts |
I appreciate this thread as after 7 years my struts are starting so show
some weakness. I have stock doors with light upholstery, would the
struts mentioned below be too strong?
Thanks,
Marcus
On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
I recently bought replacement struts from Bansbach as well. The
original Vans struts still worked but one door started coming down if
the wind hit it wrong. I have a flush latch, aftermarket center cam,
lock, upholstery, etc - not light.
On 3/9/15 I purchased (2) A1A1F50-100-287/600N 10017y1 struts for
$51.89 plus $19.27 S&H.
They installed easily (i.e. throw seemed to exactly fit what was needed
- no compression required.
They now work just right in all respects.
Just another data point.
Bill "on a TG family visitation mission" Watson
On 11/24/2015 9:50 PM, Bruce Hoppe wrote:
> I managed to break the plastic clevis on one of the Vans supplied gas
struts. The stroke of the standard gas struts is too long, at least for
my plane making them very difficult to install without unbolting the
doors.
>
> I bought two replacements from Bansbach.com <http://bansbach.com/> in
Florida with machined aluminum clevises, a shorter stroke and 580
newtons force or 130 lbs force, which is only 5 lbs lower than Vans
heavy duty struts. They are much easier to install because the stroke
matched my open door pin-to-pin gap and a little higher force than Vans
standard. Plus, the aluminum clevises seem more "aircraft-like". Here
is what I bought:
>
> - A1 M8 Hinge Eye End Fitting on one end
> - A2 M8 Hinge Eye End Fitting on other end
> - B0N0F50-100-247/XXXN Gas Spring 4"(100mm) Stroke 10"(247mm) Extended
Length with 580 newton force
>
> Total Cost, including both end fittings was less than $40 each
>
> Bruce Hoppe
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts |
I mentioned this same issue earlier. I need to contact Bansbach still.
Anyway, the issue of "too strong" a strut would be a non-issue if it was
damped upon fully open.
Nearly every new car with a door strut seems to do this, instead of
trying to yank the door off its hinges. Thus, you would think they would
be perfect for us. I have to use the regular strut because my door is
light and the HD strut wants to destroy the door. ;)
On 11/25/2015 9:30 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
> I appreciate this thread as after 7 years my struts are starting so
> show some weakness. I have stock doors with light upholstery, would
> the struts mentioned below be too strong?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
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#40533 RV-10
First flight 10/19/2011
Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts |
My struts seem to be falling more each month. It's tolerable but also a sign of
needing to plan. I have been wanting to call vans beach as well and determine
which we need. I need that damper on both up and down. When I get back I'll see
what the reference was to the one that did work that someone sent me and see
what the comparable one is with dampening from bansbach support.
> On Nov 25, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> wrote:
>
> I mentioned this same issue earlier. I need to contact Bansbach still. Anyway,
the issue of "too strong" a strut would be a non-issue if it was damped upon
fully open.
>
> Nearly every new car with a door strut seems to do this, instead of trying to
yank the door off its hinges. Thus, you would think they would be perfect for
us. I have to use the regular strut because my door is light and the HD strut
wants to destroy the door. ;)
>
>> On 11/25/2015 9:30 AM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
>> I appreciate this thread as after 7 years my struts are starting so show some
weakness. I have stock doors with light upholstery, would the struts mentioned
below be too strong?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcus
> --
> #40533 RV-10
> First flight 10/19/2011
> Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty Gas Struts |
Nice. i got a call back from a Bansbach engineer. He told me that the 5
in A1A1F50 indicates "normal" speed and normal damping on the last 10mm
of stroke. Damping only works if the rod is pointed down on full extension.
Bill, can you confirm whether you can observe the above? IE, can you
observe that the strut slows down in the last 10mm of full extension?
Jae
On 11/25/2015 9:04 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
> I recently bought replacement struts from Bansbach as well. The
> original Vans struts still worked but one door started coming down if
> the wind hit it wrong. I have a flush latch, aftermarket center cam,
> lock, upholstery, etc - not light.
>
> On 3/9/15 I purchased (2) A1A1F50-100-287/600N 10017y1 struts for
> $51.89 plus $19.27 S&H.
>
> They installed easily (i.e. throw seemed to exactly fit what was
> needed - no compression required.
>
> They now work just right in all respects.
>
> Just another data point.
>
> Bill "on a TG family visitation mission" Watson
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#40533 RV-10
First flight 10/19/2011
Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
do not archive
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