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Wed 12/09/15


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 10:05 AM - Antisplat aero gust lock (Miller John)
     2. 10:22 AM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Ralph E. Capen)
     3. 10:57 AM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Miller John)
     4. 11:14 AM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Pascal)
     5. 12:48 PM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Ralph E. Capen)
     6. 12:48 PM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Ralph E. Capen)
     7. 02:02 PM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Pascal)
     8. 02:08 PM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Pascal)
     9. 05:21 PM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Bob Turner)
    10. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Jesse Saint)
    11. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (Pascal)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:05:31 AM PST US
    From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
    Subject: Antisplat aero gust lock
    If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an email on what you think of it. Thanks - grumpy N184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls lock. gengrumpy@aol.com <mailto:gengrumpy@aol.com> DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:22:12 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    Grumpy, I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is handled well. The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it from clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom covers and see if they'll sew something up....... Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Miller John Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an email on what you think of it. Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls lock. gengrumpy@aol.com DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:57:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
    So you think its worth the cost? Pretty pricey, but then again 9 years of looking for a good, lightweight easy to install control lock has not been very fruitful. Grumpy > On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Grumpy, > I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. > I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. > Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is handled well. > The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it from clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom covers and see if they'll sew something up....... > Ralph > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Miller John > > Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock > > > > If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an email on what you think of it. > Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls lock. > gengrumpy@aol.com > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:14:49 AM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    I have no idea why I miss half of the posts these last few weeks. I actually dont even see the questions until someone replies. Here is my review - http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=120887155?KEYS=gust_lock?LISTNAME=RV10?HITNUMBER=27?SERIAL=1057496407?SHOWBUTTONS=YES Since that review- I have been out in the desert where a multi had its rudder smacking back and forth in 20-30kt gusts, while mine remained solid. I was out in New Mexico last month and parked for a few days when I returned my cover and overall aircraft was as I left it. Next to me was a Piper that either had nothing or it failed. The owner was commenting on how he couldnt fly because the rudder broke in the thunderstorm that had past. To Ralph's point- I leave mine behind the seat on the floor (carpeted)and never have had an issue with it moving. As my review states. It is a great product, I really like having it. My wires are inside the stick so I have no issues with wire routing around connector. Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Ralph E. Capen Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock Grumpy, I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is handled well. The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it from clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom covers and see if they'll sew something up....... Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Miller John Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an email on what you think of it. Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls lock. gengrumpy@aol.com DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 12:48:21 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    Wires inside the stick is a good point - yes, I built that in to mine also..... -----Original Message----- >From: Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> >Sent: Dec 9, 2015 2:07 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock > > >I have no idea why I miss half of the posts these last few weeks. I actually >dont even see the questions until someone replies. >Here is my review - >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=120887155?KEYS=gust_lock?LISTNAME=RV10?HITNUMBER=27?SERIAL=1057496407?SHOWBUTTONS=YES > >Since that review- I have been out in the desert where a multi had its >rudder smacking back and forth in 20-30kt gusts, while mine remained solid. >I was out in New Mexico last month and parked for a few days when I returned >my cover and overall aircraft was as I left it. Next to me was a Piper that >either had nothing or it failed. The owner was commenting on how he couldnt >fly because the rudder broke in the thunderstorm that had past. >To Ralph's point- I leave mine behind the seat on the floor (carpeted)and >never have had an issue with it moving. >As my review states. It is a great product, I really like having it. My >wires are inside the stick so I have no issues with wire routing around >connector. >Pascal > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ralph E. Capen >Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:15 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock > > >Grumpy, >I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. >I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. >Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is >handled well. >The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it from >clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom covers and >see if they'll sew something up....... >Ralph > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Miller John > >Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock > > >If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an >email on what you think of it. >Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls >lock. >gengrumpy@aol.com >DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 12:48:34 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    Pricey, yes - but I think it's worth it since it is a single item which when installed is in your way so you won't forget it...... I had to send mine back as it didn't fit right first time - I was asked to provide a couple of measurements and mine was adjusted, rewelded and re-anodized..... -----Original Message----- >From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> >Sent: Dec 9, 2015 1:49 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock > > >So you think its worth the cost? Pretty pricey, but then again 9 years of looking for a good, lightweight easy to install control lock has not been very fruitful. > >Grumpy > >> On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> Grumpy, >> I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. >> I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. >> Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is handled well. >> The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it from clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom covers and see if they'll sew something up....... >> Ralph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Miller John >> >> Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM >> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> >> Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock >> >> >> >> If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an email on what you think of it. >> Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls lock. >> gengrumpy@aol.com >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 02:02:58 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=122832&highlight=gust+lock Looks like old link doesnt work anymore. here is the thread. -----Original Message----- From: Pascal Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:07 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock I have no idea why I miss half of the posts these last few weeks. I actually dont even see the questions until someone replies. Here is my review - http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=120887155?KEYS=gust_lock?LISTNAME=RV10?HITNUMBER=27?SERIAL=1057496407?SHOWBUTTONS=YES Since that review- I have been out in the desert where a multi had its rudder smacking back and forth in 20-30kt gusts, while mine remained solid. I was out in New Mexico last month and parked for a few days when I returned my cover and overall aircraft was as I left it. Next to me was a Piper that either had nothing or it failed. The owner was commenting on how he couldnt fly because the rudder broke in the thunderstorm that had past. To Ralph's point- I leave mine behind the seat on the floor (carpeted)and never have had an issue with it moving. As my review states. It is a great product, I really like having it. My wires are inside the stick so I have no issues with wire routing around connector. Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Ralph E. Capen Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock Grumpy, I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is handled well. The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it from clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom covers and see if they'll sew something up....... Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Miller John Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me an email on what you think of it. Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate controls lock. gengrumpy@aol.com DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:08:39 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    There are cheaper options but I dont think there are better options than the Antisplat. I used a nice light setup another builder made for me and it worked well for the rudder but the Antisplat covers every moving part so nothing moves in a storm. I think its worth it. Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Ralph E. Capen Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:40 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock Pricey, yes - but I think it's worth it since it is a single item which when installed is in your way so you won't forget it...... I had to send mine back as it didn't fit right first time - I was asked to provide a couple of measurements and mine was adjusted, rewelded and re-anodized..... -----Original Message----- >From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> >Sent: Dec 9, 2015 1:49 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock > > >So you think its worth the cost? Pretty pricey, but then again 9 years of >looking for a good, lightweight easy to install control lock has not been >very fruitful. > >Grumpy > >> On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> Grumpy, >> I have one for my 6A if that is close enough. >> I take it with me whenever I got some place to tie down. >> Have not exposed it to heavy gusts - but the regular airport stuff is >> handled well. >> The only deficiency that I can state is that it needs a bag to keep it >> from clanging around in the back.....maybe I'll call Bruce's custom >> covers and see if they'll sew something up....... >> Ralph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Miller John >> >> Sent: Dec 9, 2015 12:58 PM >> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> >> Subject: RV10-List: Antisplat aero gust lock >> >> >> >> If anyone has the Antisplat aero gust lock for their RV10, please send me >> an email on what you think of it. >> Thanks - grumpyN184JM - 9 yrs and still searching for the ultimate >> controls lock. >> gengrumpy@aol.com >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:21:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    An essentially zero cost (assuming you want a tow bar anyway) option is to use the Bogart tow bar, modified with two tabs, as a gust lock. This has been posted before. I've used this with zero problems. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450853#450853


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    Time: 06:10:27 PM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    Me too. Weld two tubes about 1" long extending the bars and they fit in the holes in the rudder pedals. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote: > > > An essentially zero cost (assuming you want a tow bar anyway) option is to use the Bogart tow bar, modified with two tabs, as a gust lock. This has been posted before. I've used this with zero problems. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450853#450853 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:36:25 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    Not doing this myself, I question the hassle of getting out for the tow bar, which mine sits in the baggage area than moving the plane into place with a tow bar, or even if not, than going back into the plane to put the bar on the pedals if parking for a while in windy conditions, than having to do this all in reverse- go into plane take bar out, move the plane, all in hopes that there isnt any wind to bang the rudder while pulling the plane into position to start. Having a gust lock in the plane guarantees that if its windy, and it has been a few times in the west coast, I have everything secured BEFORE getting out of the plane, I also dont need to go back in and put the tow bar in the plane. I have seen first hand a person move a plane in windy conditions and the rudder banging. The Antisplat is the seatbelt around the stick and towbar on the pedals. Sure that works, but I would rather skip the hassle and know when I get out that the rudder and ailerons are not moving anywhere. Yes, I would agree its an investment but in my mind its worth it. There is also the PVC route to resolve the securing the plane before getting out concern if looking for an inexpensive option. Just some feedback for those wondering if Anti-splat gust lock is worth the investment, certainly not disagreeing with anyone who has a working and different way to do this. I once had an cheaper solution as well and I am simply happier for my "upgrade". Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:02 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock Me too. Weld two tubes about 1" long extending the bars and they fit in the holes in the rudder pedals. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote: > > > An essentially zero cost (assuming you want a tow bar anyway) option is to > use the Bogart tow bar, modified with two tabs, as a gust lock. This has > been posted before. I've used this with zero problems. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450853#450853 > >




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