RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 12/12/15


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:40 PM - Fuel Vent mods (Carl Froehlich)
     2. 03:37 PM - Re: Antisplat aero gust lock (kearney)
     3. 03:49 PM - Where to insulate (kearney)
     4. 06:05 PM - Re: Where to insulate (bob88)
     5. 06:39 PM - Re: Where to insulate (kearney)
     6. 06:46 PM - Re: Fuel Vent mods (Miller John)
     7. 09:08 PM - Re: Where to insulate (bob88)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:40:51 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Fuel Vent mods
    All, Some good discussions of late on fuel vent modifications to mitigate icing. Attached photos is what I back fitted today. The 3/8" piece of aluminum tubing out in the breeze has a piece of aluminum screen material epoxied over an angle cut to be the barrier for mud dabbers and such. The down side is I suspect this would present a nice place for ice to build up. I added a 'T' in the vent line and added a check valve such that if the external vent opening becomes blocked the tank sucks air from the wing root area - that area would be free of ice. With the check valve the vent still provides a positive pressure on the tank when flying, and if gas does burp out (as typical after filling and the sun heats the tank) the gas is still directed out of the wing. The check valve opens easily with just a slight vacuum. We got these valves from McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#5492k11/=107mk5o Carl


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    Time: 03:37:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Antisplat aero gust lock
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi Since I have Paul Grimstad rudder pedals I wasn't sure if the "standard" options would work for me. What I ended up doing was installing an eye bolt in an open AN3 hole in the u channel at the base of the firewall. I use that as an anchor point through which a bungee cord is used to pull both pedals forward. The end of the bungee is secured to one of the gear legs arms that is in the corner of the foot well. I used this at KOSH and it seems to have worked quite well. I especially like that the bungee has some "give". I found one bungee was too loose but two held a nice tension. For the elevators I just use another bungee wrapped around the seat to hold the stick back See the pix below. Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450902#450902 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_4002_143.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_4001_185.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_3996_253.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_3995_204.jpg


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    Time: 03:49:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Where to insulate
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi During my annual I decided to put *some* insulation in my -10 while the interior was removed. I have insulated the forward sidewalls, the lower half of the firewall and the tunnel floor. All of the insulation is easily removed for inspection. I do have limited access behind the panel and am wondering if there is any advantage to insulating the areas I can access. Any comments? Merry Christmas! Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450904#450904


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    Time: 06:05:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Where to insulate
    From: "bob88" <marty.crooks@comcast.net>
    What did you insulate with and how did you attach to firewall? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450905#450905


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    Time: 06:39:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Where to insulate
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi I used 1/2" thick fiber based insulation I had on hand (bought from a car upholstery shop). It has a thin foil coating in either side. I sealed the edges using 1.75" aluminum tape. Cut slightly oversize, it has a bit of a pressure fit. The tape also provides some rigidity. I also used some aluminum tape to hold it in place on each of the sides on the firewall. I did not use and adhesive or contact cement. It will be interesting to see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't, it is easily removed. Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah! Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450906#450906


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    Time: 06:46:17 PM PST US
    From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Vent mods
    A much easier solution is to drill a small (#40) hole in the back side of the vent about half way up to the wing. grumpy > On Dec 12, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote: > > All, > > Some good discussions of late on fuel vent modifications to mitigate icing. Attached photos is what I back fitted today. The 3/8=9D piece of aluminum tubing out in the breeze has a piece of aluminum screen material epoxied over an angle cut to be the barrier for mud dabbers and such. The down side is I suspect this would present a nice place for ice to build up. I added a =98T=99 in the vent line and added a check valve such that if the external vent opening becomes blocked the tank sucks air from the wing root area =93 that area would be free of ice. With the check valve the vent still provides a positive pressure on the tank when flying, and if gas does burp out (as typical after filling and the sun heats the tank) the gas is still directed out of the wing. > > The check valve opens easily with just a slight vacuum. We got these valves from McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#5492k11/=107mk5o <http://www.mcmaster.com/#5492k11/=107mk5o> > > Carl


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    Time: 09:08:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Where to insulate
    From: "bob88" <marty.crooks@comcast.net>
    thanks Les. I really didn't want to use an adhesive either. I think I'll follow your lead. Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450910#450910




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