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1. 01:44 PM - Finishing kit mods (Kent Ogden)
2. 02:05 PM - Re: Finishing kit mods (johngoodman)
3. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Finishing kit mods (Kelly McMullen)
4. 07:52 PM - Re: Finishing kit mods (Bob Turner)
5. 07:59 PM - Re: Re: Finishing kit mods (Jesse Saint)
6. 08:26 PM - Re: Finishing kit mods (Bob Turner)
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| Subject: | Finishing kit mods |
Hi all,
As I am progressing on my fuselage I want to get my finishing kit ordered.
I know there had been some issues with axle extensions, wheels etc. and I
am looking for advice on what parts maybe should be omitted with plans on
buying better/more appropriate parts.
I had Vans send me the parts list so I could customize prior to ordering,
here are some of the landing gear parts that I was wondering about:
2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR
1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00
1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
I don't see any axle extensions (U-1004B) listed as mentioned on Tim
Olson's page here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html
although the U-1004A axle nuts are listed.
I am interested in upgrading the brakes (also mentioned on Tim Olson's
site) but I don't know anything about the interchangeability of these
parts, so advice there would be welcomed. There is a brake mount:
2.00 U-1003-PC BRAKE MOUNT
and I wonder if this would work with other (Matco?) brakes.
Scanning the finishing kit list, I didn't see anything else that was
obvious that I would want to omit, but if there are any other suggestions
I would be happy to hear them.
Thanks.
Kent Ogden
#40710 (ultra-slow build option)
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
It looks like you're thinking about a brake modification. A friend of mine who
also owns an RV-10 just did his this Fall. He went with the Matco mod:
http://www.matcomfg.com/WHLBRKWI600225KftlbenergyeXtraTorqueRV10CONFIG-idv-3814-4.html
I flew it one time and it does feel like there is more brake there. Your mileage
may vary....
John
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
While some have had issues with the original Cleveland brakes the -10 was
designed with, I've not heard any issues with the Grove brakes. Quite
frankly, I believe every -10 I have flown had the Clevelands, and they
seemed plenty adequate.
Not sure I see the benefit of being able to flat spot the tires faster.
More brakes won't help on gravel or grass. Very few paved runways are that
marginal for the -10.
I would definitely do the nose wheel change to the proper Matco. I think
Tim had a list of the proper tires and tubes. I chose to buy all retreads
from Desser, because they seem to last a lot longer on the hot runways of
Aridzona. Leakguard or Air Stop tubes are desirable. Some have pointed out
that the much more common and cheaper 6:00X6 tire will fit the wheel pants,
and has the same load rating for given number of plies as the Vans choice
of 15X6:00X6 tire.
-sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
wrote:
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> It looks like you're thinking about a brake modification. A friend of mine
> who also owns an RV-10 just did his this Fall. He went with the Matco mod:
>
> http://www.matcomfg.com/WHLBRKWI600225KftlbenergyeXtraTorqueRV10CONFIG-idv-3814-4.html
> I flew it one time and it does feel like there is more brake there. Your
> mileage may vary....
> John
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451533#451533
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
IIRC, The stock axle extensions are just cut from hex-cross section stock. They
are too small in diameter, the larger diameter after-market replacements are
very desirable - I'd say necessary.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
If you fit the wheel pants to 6.00x6 tires they will fit. If you fit them pe
r the plans with 15/6.00x6 tires then change to 6.00x6, they will hit the to
p of the wheel pant, or at least the nutplates, or at the very least the scr
ews. Ask me how I know.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
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> On Dec 30, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
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> While some have had issues with the original Cleveland brakes the -10 was d
esigned with, I've not heard any issues with the Grove brakes. Quite frankly
, I believe every -10 I have flown had the Clevelands, and they seemed plent
y adequate.
> Not sure I see the benefit of being able to flat spot the tires faster. Mo
re brakes won't help on gravel or grass. Very few paved runways are that mar
ginal for the -10.
> I would definitely do the nose wheel change to the proper Matco. I think T
im had a list of the proper tires and tubes. I chose to buy all retreads fro
m Desser, because they seem to last a lot longer on the hot runways of Aridz
ona. Leakguard or Air Stop tubes are desirable. Some have pointed out that t
he much more common and cheaper 6:00X6 tire will fit the wheel pants, and ha
s the same load rating for given number of plies as the Vans choice of 15X6:
00X6 tire.
>
> -sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> w
rote:
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>> It looks like you're thinking about a brake modification. A friend of min
e who also owns an RV-10 just did his this Fall. He went with the Matco mod:
>> http://www.matcomfg.com/WHLBRKWI600225KftlbenergyeXtraTorqueRV10CONFIG-id
v-3814-4.html
>> I flew it one time and it does feel like there is more brake there. Your m
ileage may vary....
>> John
>>
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>> #40572 Phase One complete in 2011
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
BTW, the talk about the Cleveland wheels and brakes is mostly academic; current
-10 kits don't have them.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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