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1. 05:26 AM - Re: Finishing kit mods (Linn Walters)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Finishing kit mods (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:59 AM - FW: build them (David)
4. 07:47 AM - jacks (David)
5. 07:55 AM - wing jacks (David)
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
I queried a friend with a Cirrus ......
"There are 4 brake linings and 4 pucks on my brakes as far as I know."
I think he really has two pucks .......
Linn
On 1/4/2016 10:51 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Yes, faster than Cessnas, not faster than Mooneys, which have single
> puck Clevelands until their gross went over 2800. I don't waste my
> brakes on tower request unless I can easily do it or I really want to
> do it. Most towered airports have plenty of runway. Glazed brakes can
> easily feel like fading and a lot less braking for given pedal pressure.
> More braking can easily equate to tire flat spotting.
> Utility Cessnas get bigger brakes to handle torque of bigger tires,
> i.e. bush use.
> I was asking about Cirrus brakes, with their higher landing speeds.
> Don't know what they have.
> I think you might get less fade with the higher temp brake fluid.
> Doesn't cost much to try.
>
> On 1/4/2016 8:22 PM, Rene wrote:
>> 5606.
>>
>> Yes.every two to 3 years
>>
>> I use longer runways..but the tower request early turnout..if able.
>>
>> The RV-10 lands faster and is a lot cleaner than the Cessnas.
>>
>> The bottom line for me is more margin in breaking would be better and
>> well worth the extra $$. But, 430 to a 430W and an unexpected screen
>> failure used up all my maintenance money this year..
>>
>> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly
>> McMullen
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 7:31 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Finishing kit mods
>>
>> Are you getting brake fade with 5606 or the better brake fluid? Do you
>> purge your brake fluid every 2 or 3 years? Do you typically use runways
>> less than say 2500 ft? Do you normally land with less than full flaps?
>> Just trying to understand whether there are factors beyond the OAT and
>> DA. I don't recall any certified aircraft in the weight range that come
>> with more than single puck brakes. I know touble puck get fitted to the
>> C180 and are stock on C185.
>>
>> What does the Cirrus have for brakes since it lands faster and is
>> probably heavier?
>>
>>
>> -sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rene <rene@felker.com
>> <mailto:rene@felker.com>> wrote:
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>> Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right
>> decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings
>> always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the
>> pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my
>> future.
>>
>> I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I
>> think I will be able to justify them next year.
>>
>> Rene'
>>
>> 801-721-6080 <tel:801-721-6080>
>>
>> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kent Ogden
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Finishing kit mods
>>
>> Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided
>> that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for
>> the tires/leakguard tubes.
>>
>> I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical
>> operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I
>> hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
>> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
>> 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR
>> 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
>> 1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00
>> 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing kit mods |
I agree, likely double puck brakes, 4 pads per caliper. It is heavier
at 3400 lbs and stall speed of 60kts vs the -10 at 55kts @ 2700 gross
wt. So obvious need for more effective brakes.
On 1/5/2016 6:23 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
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> I queried a friend with a Cirrus ......
> "There are 4 brake linings and 4 pucks on my brakes as far as I know."
> I think he really has two pucks .......
> Linn
>
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Also don't forget the tail tie down of a couple of hundred pounds. My tie
down is on rollers. The tail tie down ring is steel. I thought of using a
hook but that was a little too much.
_____
From: David [mailto:dlm34077@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:48 AM
Subject: build them
Use 1" threaded rod from www.McMastercarr.com <http://www.mcmastercarr.com/>
and a threaded nut; weld to top of standard 3 ton jack.
David McNeill
480-626-4048
N46007 tt1000+
CFII A&P
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Builders need to take care to determine their wing tie down supports are
flush with the bottom skin. My QB wings came with a small gap between the
bottom of the tie down structure and the bottom skin and as a result the
jack insert or tie down ring can crease the skin when tightened or you are
left with the aircraft sitting on the threads of the support. I used wooden
blocks with a partially drilled bolt hole for the jack and a flattened
surface of the wood with a piece of silicone baffling material "glued" to
it. Locate it under the main spar.
David McNeill
N46007 TT1000+
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Also don't forget the tail tie down of a couple of hundred pounds. My tie
down is on rollers. The tail tie down ring is steel. I thought of using a
hook but that was a little too much.
_____
From: David [mailto:dlm34077@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:48 AM
Subject: build them
Use 1" threaded rod from www.McMastercarr.com <http://www.mcmastercarr.com/>
and a threaded nut; weld to top of standard 3 ton jack.
David McNeill
480-626-4048
N46007 tt1000+
CFII A&P
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