---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/05/16: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - Re: Finishing kit mods (Linn Walters) 2. 05:41 AM - Re: Finishing kit mods (Kelly McMullen) 3. 06:59 AM - FW: build them (David) 4. 07:47 AM - jacks (David) 5. 07:55 AM - wing jacks (David) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Finishing kit mods From: Linn Walters I queried a friend with a Cirrus ...... "There are 4 brake linings and 4 pucks on my brakes as far as I know." I think he really has two pucks ....... Linn On 1/4/2016 10:51 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Yes, faster than Cessnas, not faster than Mooneys, which have single > puck Clevelands until their gross went over 2800. I don't waste my > brakes on tower request unless I can easily do it or I really want to > do it. Most towered airports have plenty of runway. Glazed brakes can > easily feel like fading and a lot less braking for given pedal pressure. > More braking can easily equate to tire flat spotting. > Utility Cessnas get bigger brakes to handle torque of bigger tires, > i.e. bush use. > I was asking about Cirrus brakes, with their higher landing speeds. > Don't know what they have. > I think you might get less fade with the higher temp brake fluid. > Doesn't cost much to try. > > On 1/4/2016 8:22 PM, Rene wrote: >> 5606. >> >> Yes.every two to 3 years >> >> I use longer runways..but the tower request early turnout..if able. >> >> The RV-10 lands faster and is a lot cleaner than the Cessnas. >> >> The bottom line for me is more margin in breaking would be better and >> well worth the extra $$. But, 430 to a 430W and an unexpected screen >> failure used up all my maintenance money this year.. >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly >> McMullen >> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 7:31 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Finishing kit mods >> >> Are you getting brake fade with 5606 or the better brake fluid? Do you >> purge your brake fluid every 2 or 3 years? Do you typically use runways >> less than say 2500 ft? Do you normally land with less than full flaps? >> Just trying to understand whether there are factors beyond the OAT and >> DA. I don't recall any certified aircraft in the weight range that come >> with more than single puck brakes. I know touble puck get fitted to the >> C180 and are stock on C185. >> >> What does the Cirrus have for brakes since it lands faster and is >> probably heavier? >> >> >> -sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm >> >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rene > > wrote: >> >> Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right >> decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings >> always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the >> pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my >> future. >> >> I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I >> think I will be able to justify them next year. >> >> Rene' >> >> 801-721-6080 >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> ] *On Behalf Of *Kent Ogden >> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Finishing kit mods >> >> Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided >> that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for >> the tires/leakguard tubes. >> >> I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical >> operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I >> hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good. >> >> Kent >> >> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10 >> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10 >> 1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR >> 1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6 >> 1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00 >> 1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Finishing kit mods From: Kelly McMullen I agree, likely double puck brakes, 4 pads per caliper. It is heavier at 3400 lbs and stall speed of 60kts vs the -10 at 55kts @ 2700 gross wt. So obvious need for more effective brakes. On 1/5/2016 6:23 AM, Linn Walters wrote: > > I queried a friend with a Cirrus ...... > "There are 4 brake linings and 4 pucks on my brakes as far as I know." > I think he really has two pucks ....... > Linn > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:58 AM PST US From: "David" Subject: RV10-List: FW: build them Also don't forget the tail tie down of a couple of hundred pounds. My tie down is on rollers. The tail tie down ring is steel. I thought of using a hook but that was a little too much. _____ From: David [mailto:dlm34077@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:48 AM Subject: build them Use 1" threaded rod from www.McMastercarr.com and a threaded nut; weld to top of standard 3 ton jack. David McNeill 480-626-4048 N46007 tt1000+ CFII A&P --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:15 AM PST US From: "David" Subject: RV10-List: jacks Builders need to take care to determine their wing tie down supports are flush with the bottom skin. My QB wings came with a small gap between the bottom of the tie down structure and the bottom skin and as a result the jack insert or tie down ring can crease the skin when tightened or you are left with the aircraft sitting on the threads of the support. I used wooden blocks with a partially drilled bolt hole for the jack and a flattened surface of the wood with a piece of silicone baffling material "glued" to it. Locate it under the main spar. David McNeill N46007 TT1000+ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:40 AM PST US From: "David" Subject: RV10-List: wing jacks Also don't forget the tail tie down of a couple of hundred pounds. My tie down is on rollers. The tail tie down ring is steel. I thought of using a hook but that was a little too much. _____ From: David [mailto:dlm34077@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:48 AM Subject: build them Use 1" threaded rod from www.McMastercarr.com and a threaded nut; weld to top of standard 3 ton jack. David McNeill 480-626-4048 N46007 tt1000+ CFII A&P --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.