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Mon 01/25/16


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:07 AM - Re: Numbers (Ed Kranz)
     2. 07:10 AM - Re: Numbers (kearney)
     3. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: Numbers (David Saylor)
     4. 07:55 PM - Re: Re: Numbers (David Saylor)
     5. 08:16 PM - Re: Numbers (Bob Turner)
     6. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Numbers (Les Kearney)
     7. 08:26 PM - Re: Numbers (dmaib@me.com)
     8. 08:36 PM - Re: Re: Numbers (Kelly McMullen)
     9. 08:55 PM - Re: Re: Numbers (David Saylor)
    10. 09:00 PM - Re: Re: Numbers (David Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:07:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    From: Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com>
    My DAR didn't question it at all either. He just confirmed that I'd be testing the flight envelope at full gross, whatever I chose (2800#). I don't have the numbers with me, but I think stall only went up like 1 knot at 2800# vs me solo w/ full fuel. On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > > My DAR never said anything about my using 2800 pounds. >


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    Time: 07:10:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi Dave I was looking at your V speeds and noticed that the Vne is 200KIAS. The Vne for the -10 should be 200 KTAS according to Vans. Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452261#452261


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    Time: 05:32:35 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    Les, I'll add an asterisk: *Standard day, Sea Level ;-) On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:06 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Hi Dave > > I was looking at your V speeds and noticed that the Vne is 200KIAS. The > Vne for the -10 should be 200 KTAS according to Vans. > > Cheers > > Les > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452261#452261 > >


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    Time: 07:55:13 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    OK, I really did add an asterisk to the AOM. The checklist (Appendix 1 to the AOM) will probably be inaccurate for a while. See attached. Which makes me wonder: does anyone have an EFIS that presents VNE in terms of TAS? My AF3400 does not, but it displays TAS below the IAS tape. --Dave On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote: > Les, > > I'll add an asterisk: > > *Standard day, Sea Level ;-) > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:06 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> >> Hi Dave >> >> I was looking at your V speeds and noticed that the Vne is 200KIAS. The >> Vne for the -10 should be 200 KTAS according to Vans. >> >> Cheers >> >> Les >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452261#452261 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >


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    Time: 08:16:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    EdKranz wrote: > My DAR didn't question it at all either. He just confirmed that I'd be testing the flight envelope at full gross, whatever I chose (2800#). I don't have the numbers with me, but I think stall only went up like 1 knot at 2800# vs me solo w/ full fuel. > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Danny Riggs wrote: > > > > > My DAR never said anything about my using 2800 pounds. > > > Stall speed goes up like the square root of the weight, so a 4% increase in gross raises Vs 2% which is about 1knot. But solo you may have been 20% under gross, so Vs should have dropped 10%, or about 6 knots, not 1. To the OP: Va is usually a calculated speed and, unless there is some reason to make it smaller, is usually the square root of the design load limit times the stall speed. Load limit = 3.8, square root of 3.8 = 1.95, multiply that tiimes Vs1 to get Va. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452278#452278


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    Time: 08:25:50 PM PST US
    From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    Hi Dave What I did was calculate at Vne kn KIAS and used that on my AFS 4500 screens. Not perfect but it seems to work for me. Cheers Les From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Saylor Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Numbers OK, I really did add an asterisk to the AOM. The checklist (Appendix 1 to the AOM) will probably be inaccurate for a while. See attached. Which makes me wonder: does anyone have an EFIS that presents VNE in terms of TAS? My AF3400 does not, but it displays TAS below the IAS tape. --Dave On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote: Les, I'll add an asterisk: *Standard day, Sea Level ;-) On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:06 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: Hi Dave I was looking at your V speeds and noticed that the Vne is 200KIAS. The Vne for the -10 should be 200 KTAS according to Vans. Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452261#452261 br> fts!) r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:26:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    Dave Saylor wrote: "Which makes me wonder: does anyone have an EFIS that presents VNE in terms of TAS? My AF3400 does not, but it displays TAS below the IAS tape." I am not 100% sure, but I think my GRT Hxr allows me to set the VNE bug using IAS or TAS. I seem to remember that on the setup. I will check it out when I go to the airport tomorrow. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452279#452279


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    Time: 08:36:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Dynon Skyview allows setting Vne as KTAS On 1/25/2016 9:23 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote: > > Dave Saylor wrote: "Which makes me wonder: does anyone have an EFIS that presents VNE in terms of TAS? My AF3400 does not, but it displays TAS below the IAS tape." > > > I am not 100% sure, but I think my GRT Hxr allows me to set the VNE bug using IAS or TAS. I seem to remember that on the setup. I will check it out when I go to the airport tomorrow. > > -------- > David Maib > RV-10 #40559 > New Smyrna Beach, FL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452279#452279 > >


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    Time: 08:55:33 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    Nice. do not archive On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > Dynon Skyview allows setting Vne as KTAS > > > On 1/25/2016 9:23 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote: > >> >> Dave Saylor wrote: "Which makes me wonder: does anyone have an EFIS that >> presents VNE in terms of TAS? My AF3400 does not, but it displays TAS >> below the IAS tape." >> >> >> I am not 100% sure, but I think my GRT Hxr allows me to set the VNE bug >> using IAS or TAS. I seem to remember that on the setup. I will check it out >> when I go to the airport tomorrow. >> >> -------- >> David Maib >> RV-10 #40559 >> New Smyrna Beach, FL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452279#452279 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 09:00:33 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Numbers
    Les, I may make up a placard some day (I have one for a few VAs at various weights) but for now I'll try to remember to keep it under 200KTAS. Thanks for the reminder, --Dave On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Dave > > > What I did was calculate at Vne kn KIAS and used that on my AFS 4500 > screens. Not perfect but it seems to work for me. > > > Cheers > > > Les > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Saylor > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 8:45 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Numbers > > > OK, I really did add an asterisk to the AOM. The checklist (Appendix 1 to > the AOM) will probably be inaccurate for a while. See attached. > > > Which makes me wonder: does anyone have an EFIS that presents VNE in > terms of TAS? My AF3400 does not, but it displays TAS below the IAS tape. > > > --Dave > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Les, > > > I'll add an asterisk: > > > *Standard day, Sea Level ;-) > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:06 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Hi Dave > > I was looking at your V speeds and noticed that the Vne is 200KIAS. The > Vne for the -10 should be 200 KTAS according to Vans. > > Cheers > > Les > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452261#452261 > > > ========== > br> fts!) > r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > www.buildersbooks.com > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > >




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