---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/01/16: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:31 PM - Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (Phillip Perry) 2. 12:33 PM - Re: Aeropsort NACA Controller and Magnetometer (Ed Kranz) 3. 01:15 PM - Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (Ben Westfall) 4. 02:01 PM - Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (Tcwtech) 5. 02:06 PM - Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (Linn Walters) 6. 02:18 PM - hoses (David) 7. 02:48 PM - Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (Carlos Trigo) 8. 03:23 PM - Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (Marcus Cooper) 9. 03:23 PM - Re: hoses (Kelly McMullen) 10. 04:30 PM - Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! (kearney) 11. 11:04 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) 12. 11:17 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) 13. 11:41 PM - Re: Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Patrick Pulis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:45 PM PST US From: Phillip Perry Subject: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! I've about had all I can handle finding a simple and effective way to mount these Ray Allen POS-12 sensors in the airframe. No matter what I do I can't find a good way to mount them where they can travel with the flap system. I've been trying to mount them under the flap tube covers on the rear seats mounted to the rear spar area and attached to the tube. I've nearly thrown my phone clear across this hangar about 15 times and I've invented cuss words that didn't exist before I took on this (what should be) ridiculously simple task. I need some better ideas and photos. I don't want to scrap this plane because of a $20 sensor but right now I've had all I can handle. Thanks for letting me vent and for the ideas gentlemen. Phil Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aeropsort NACA Controller and Magnetometer From: Ed Kranz No issues here. I have the naca vent valve maybe 6 inches behind the baggage bulkhead right near the top skin, and the magnetometer on the top of the front side of the next bulkhead back. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:54 PM, mhealydds wrote: > > For those of you flying and have Aerosport's vent valve, is there ever an > interference with magnetometer mounted in the area? I have fabricated > bracket for my two Dynon magnetometers in most forward area of tailcone > area (see picture) and was worried about its proximity to the vent valve. > If there would be a problem would it just be when vent valve is activated > (opened or closed)? > > Thanks, > Matt > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453303#453303 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1708_205.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:08 PM PST US From: "Ben Westfall" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! I copied Mark Cooper's install and although I am not yet flying it appears to be able to go stop to stop w/o issue. Scroll down to the pictures in the post below on his blog. https://myrv10factory.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/first-real-traffic-info-avion ics-checklists-oxygen-head-unit-illumination-holiday-decorations-flap-positi on-sensor-onboard-audio-entertainment/ Not knowing how much pain he went through to settle on the mount location and size of plate I tried to mimic the same size for the aluminum plate attaching the POS-12 to the hinge as him. I then attached it to the flap tube with the adel clamp and held it in place on the rear seat finding the optimal spot to attach the hinge to the rear seat bulkhead. Like I said not flying yet but I can get it to go stop to stop... just barely but it does. This VAF thread has some other ideas as well http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=56927 Ben Westfall Portland, OR -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:09 AM Subject: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! I've about had all I can handle finding a simple and effective way to mount these Ray Allen POS-12 sensors in the airframe. No matter what I do I can't find a good way to mount them where they can travel with the flap system. I've been trying to mount them under the flap tube covers on the rear seats mounted to the rear spar area and attached to the tube. I've nearly thrown my phone clear across this hangar about 15 times and I've invented cuss words that didn't exist before I took on this (what should be) ridiculously simple task. I need some better ideas and photos. I don't want to scrap this plane because of a $20 sensor but right now I've had all I can handle. Thanks for letting me vent and for the ideas gentlemen. Phil Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:35 PM PST US From: Tcwtech Subject: Re: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! I did the exact same setup for the flap positioning sensor. Works perfectly well, 4 years in service. One important note. You Do Not need to mechanically go end to end with flap travel on the sensor. In fact you don't want it to, that way you are never putting mechanical stress on the parts. In the software for whatever flight screen you are using you set up the "limits" as reported by the sensor and those values get mapped to the flap position displayed. It's just like calibrating the fuel senders. Bob Newman TCW Technologies, LLC 610-928-3420 > On Mar 1, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Ben Westfall wrote: > > > I copied Mark Cooper's install and although I am not yet flying it appears > to be able to go stop to stop w/o issue. Scroll down to the pictures in the > post below on his blog. > > https://myrv10factory.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/first-real-traffic-info-avion > ics-checklists-oxygen-head-unit-illumination-holiday-decorations-flap-positi > on-sensor-onboard-audio-entertainment/ > > Not knowing how much pain he went through to settle on the mount location > and size of plate I tried to mimic the same size for the aluminum plate > attaching the POS-12 to the hinge as him. I then attached it to the flap > tube with the adel clamp and held it in place on the rear seat finding the > optimal spot to attach the hinge to the rear seat bulkhead. Like I said not > flying yet but I can get it to go stop to stop... just barely but it does. > > This VAF thread has some other ideas as well > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=56927 > > Ben Westfall > Portland, OR > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:09 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! > > > I've about had all I can handle finding a simple and effective way to mount > these Ray Allen POS-12 sensors in the airframe. > > No matter what I do I can't find a good way to mount them where they can > travel with the flap system. > > I've been trying to mount them under the flap tube covers on the rear seats > mounted to the rear spar area and attached to the tube. > > I've nearly thrown my phone clear across this hangar about 15 times and I've > invented cuss words that didn't exist before I took on this (what should be) > ridiculously simple task. > > I need some better ideas and photos. I don't want to scrap this plane > because of a $20 sensor but right now I've had all I can handle. > > Thanks for letting me vent and for the ideas gentlemen. > > Phil > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! From: Linn Walters Somewhere I saw an installation that used an Adel clamp on the flap torque tube with the POS-12 mounted to the side of the tunnel. A tab with a row of small holes was attached to the Adel clamp to create an arm using it's screw and the holes used to set the travel. Model airplane clevises were used to connect the POS-12 to the tab. Linn On 3/1/2016 4:11 PM, Ben Westfall wrote: > > I copied Mark Cooper's install and although I am not yet flying it appears > to be able to go stop to stop w/o issue. Scroll down to the pictures in the > post below on his blog. > > https://myrv10factory.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/first-real-traffic-info-avion > ics-checklists-oxygen-head-unit-illumination-holiday-decorations-flap-positi > on-sensor-onboard-audio-entertainment/ > > Not knowing how much pain he went through to settle on the mount location > and size of plate I tried to mimic the same size for the aluminum plate > attaching the POS-12 to the hinge as him. I then attached it to the flap > tube with the adel clamp and held it in place on the rear seat finding the > optimal spot to attach the hinge to the rear seat bulkhead. Like I said not > flying yet but I can get it to go stop to stop... just barely but it does. > > This VAF thread has some other ideas as well > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=56927 > > Ben Westfall > Portland, OR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:09 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! > > > I've about had all I can handle finding a simple and effective way to mount > these Ray Allen POS-12 sensors in the airframe. > > No matter what I do I can't find a good way to mount them where they can > travel with the flap system. > > I've been trying to mount them under the flap tube covers on the rear seats > mounted to the rear spar area and attached to the tube. > > I've nearly thrown my phone clear across this hangar about 15 times and I've > invented cuss words that didn't exist before I took on this (what should be) > ridiculously simple task. > > I need some better ideas and photos. I don't want to scrap this plane > because of a $20 sensor but right now I've had all I can handle. > > Thanks for letting me vent and for the ideas gentlemen. > > Phil > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:58 PM PST US From: "David" Subject: RV10-List: hoses Does anyone have a hose list for the IO540 installation? I want to replace existing hoses with Stratoflex lifetime versions. Any suppliers? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:56 PM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! Phil Don=92t feel lonely. I felt the same way a couple of months ago, struggled to find a solution and rested my case. Being doing something else in the meantime. So, I am glad you asked. I=92m all hears =85 Thanks Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 1 de Mar=E7o de 2016 16:09 Subject: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! philperry9@gmail.com> I've about had all I can handle finding a simple and effective way to mount these Ray Allen POS-12 sensors in the airframe. No matter what I do I can't find a good way to mount them where they can travel with the flap system. I've been trying to mount them under the flap tube covers on the rear seats mounted to the rear spar area and attached to the tube. I've nearly thrown my phone clear across this hangar about 15 times and I'v e invented cuss words that didn't exist before I took on this (what should be ) ridiculously simple task. I need some better ideas and photos. I don't want to scrap this plane because of a $20 sensor but right now I've had all I can handle. Thanks for letting me vent and for the ideas gentlemen. Phil Sent from my iPhone www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution st Day http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution --- Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de v=EDrus pelo software antiv=EDrus A vast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:10 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! This may not really help, but if the thing is causing that much angst perhaps you could skip the sensor altogether. I use the Mark I eyeball to set the flaps and it works really well. The RV-10 has such great handling characteristics a few degrees just isn=99t going to make a difference. Marcus On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: do not archive Phil Don=99t feel lonely. I felt the same way a couple of months ago, struggled to find a solution and rested my case. Being doing something else in the meantime. So, I am glad you asked. I=99m all hears Thanks Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry Sent: ter=C3=A7a-feira, 1 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2016 16:09 Subject: RV10-List: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! > I've about had all I can handle finding a simple and effective way to mount these Ray Allen POS-12 sensors in the airframe. No matter what I do I can't find a good way to mount them where they can travel with the flap system. I've been trying to mount them under the flap tube covers on the rear seats mounted to the rear spar area and attached to the tube. I've nearly thrown my phone clear across this hangar about 15 times and I've invented cuss words that didn't exist before I took on this (what should be) ridiculously simple task. I need some better ideas and photos. I don't want to scrap this plane because of a $20 sensor but right now I've had all I can handle. Thanks for letting me vent and for the ideas gentlemen. Phil Sent from my iPhone = (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) <="" span="">www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http:/ - List Contribution Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution Este e-mail foi enviado a partir de um computador sem v=C3=ADrus protegido pela Avast. www.avast.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: hoses From: Kelly McMullen I'm pretty certain that Bill Curtis had the list on his build site. I've lost the bookmark. On 3/1/2016 3:14 PM, David wrote: > Does anyone have a hose list for the IO540 installation? I want to > replace existing hoses with Stratoflex lifetime versions. Any suppliers? > > > This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:10 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Those @&$#^ flap position sensors! From: "kearney" Phil I understand your frustration. If you wish, I'll certainly take your project off your hands at no charge to you!. Failing that, what I did was mount the POS12 on the foot-well wall using a small length of hinge. I then, as others have, installed an adel clamp to the flap with a tube. The adel clamp had a small L shaped bracket that attached to the POS-12 arm. Very simple and quite similar if not identical to what others did. The trick was to get the hinge / pos 12 on a place on the foot-well where the full range of the flap movement wouldn't over / under extend the POS-12 arm. This I did by trial and errior. When I had it exactly where I wanted, I used pop rivets to attach the hinge. 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For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main Index Page: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare ************************** *** List Archive CDROM *** ************************** A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make great gifts! http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM ********************************** *** List Support Contributions *** ********************************** The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members. You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month, I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they are comfortable. I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated by companies that are themselves List members. Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server system hardware and software upgrades, and to partially offset the many many hours I spend running, maintaining, upgrading, and developing the variety of services found here. Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely voluntary and non-compulsory. I ask only that if person enjoys the Lists and obtains value from them, that they make a Contribution of equal magnitude. Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in. The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below. There are a variety of payment methods including Visa and MasterCard, PayPal, and sending a personal check. If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to support its continued operation? http://www.matronics.com/contributions Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** RV10-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. RV10-List Policy Statement The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:16 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines Dear Listers, Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** RV10-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. RV10-List Policy Statement The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) From: Patrick Pulis Glad to see you back on deck Matt. Warm regards from downunder. Patrick > On 2 Mar 2016, at 17:31, Matt Dralle wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > Please read over the RV10-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The > complete RV10-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the > following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html > > Thank you, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > > [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as > Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ] > > > > > This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address: > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm > > > > ************************************************************ > ******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ******* > ************************************************************ > > > > PLEASE READ. This document contains RV10-List policies and information > for new and old subscribers. Understanding the RV10-List policies will > minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the RV10-List > running smoothly for all of us. > > > ****************************************** > *** Quick Start Guide to List Features *** > ****************************************** > > There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each > one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator > you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this > List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > **************************************** > *** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe *** > **************************************** > > Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and > select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsubscribed from. You > may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of > your email address as it is subscribed to the List. Please see the > complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information. > The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is: > > http://www.matronics.com/subscribe > > Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption > process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request > was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed. > > You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request. > The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post > until you receive the second conformation email message. > > > > ***************************** > *** How to Post a Message *** > ***************************** > > Send an email message to: > > rv10-list@matronics.com > > Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed > to the List. > > > > ***************************************************** > *** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post *** > ***************************************************** > > When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message > is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the > email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor. > If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it > is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that > gets posted to the Lists. > > Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important > with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook > or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be > functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM > test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List: > > smith@machine.domain.com > > smith@domain.com > > Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure > your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to > the List. > > > > ************************************** > *** Enclosure Support on the Lists *** > ************************************** > > Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets > is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these > are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the > content of enclosures. > > These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics > Lists: > > 1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists. > > 2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists. > > 3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site. > > 4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives. > > 5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature. > > 6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed: > > bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls > > All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to > sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from > a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk. > > 7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting > to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down > the process of posting the message !! > > > Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules > could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists. > > 1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files > you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there > are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post > 30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these > folks and the rest of us, for that matter. > > 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000 > pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just > unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture > down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the > file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less. > > Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows > you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically > scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it! > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx > Look for the link "Image Resizer" > > 3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not > post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother. > And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even > questionable. !! > > 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members > subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting > to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and > BE COURTEOUS! > > Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where > you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server > for long time viewing and availability. > > > > ******************* > *** Digest Mode *** > ******************* > > Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started. > This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended > to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:" > and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting > of a line of underscores. > > Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be > combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list. > > To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form > described above, and just select the Digest version of the List. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscribe > > Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions > of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable. > > Now some caveats: > > * Messages sent to "rv10-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard > email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the > digest List. > > * If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you > will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of > the day. > > * If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the > normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change > the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please > *do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*. > > > > **************************** > *** List Digest Browser *** > **************************** > > An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text > or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to > the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found > at the following location: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest > > > > ***************************************** > *** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag *** > ***************************************** > > At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very > small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive > it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the > message: > > do not archive > > Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List > email distribution as normal. > > > > ********************************************** > ***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes ***** > ********************************************** > > Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced > email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly > removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving > messages from the RV10-List, go to the following Web page, and look > for your email address and a possible reason for your removal. > > The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that > automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that > caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox > full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the > Lists you will find record of it at the following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed > > If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel > free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice. > > > > ******************************* > *** List Member Information *** > ******************************* > > If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and > paper mail address in the following format: > > smith@somehost.com > Joe Smith > 123 Airport Lane > Tower, CA 91234-1234 > 098-765-1234 w > 123-456-7890 h > > Please forward this information to the following email address: > > requests@matronics.com > > I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when > there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT > be used for any other commercial purpose. > > > > **************************************** > *** Realtime Web Email List Browsing *** > **************************************** > > Recent messages posted to the RV10-List are also made available on > the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are > available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject, > Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are > updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message > or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon). > You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List > Browser Interface in view-mode. > > http://www.matronics.com/browselist/rv10-list > > > > ******************************************* > *** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface *** > ******************************************* > > A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all RV10-List content. > content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email > distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the > List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the > respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to > the web Forums. > > You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login. > If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you > will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few > minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the > main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also > enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to > Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the > Email Distribution of the List, however. > > The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL: > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > > ********************************* > *** Matronics Email List Wiki *** > ********************************* > > In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed > information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at: > > http://wiki.matronics.com > > The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information > for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page > where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki > permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately. > > While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be > comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any > images and email it to: > > wiki-support@matronics.com > > One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct > a Wiki page for you. > > Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the > Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that > post and convert it into a Wiki page. > > > > ********************* > *** List Archives *** > ********************* > > A file containing of all of the previous postings to the RV10-List is > available on line. The archive file information is available via the > Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below: > > > * RV10-List.FAQ > > - Latest version of the RV10-List Frequently Asked Question > page (this document). > > * RV10-Archive.digest.complete > > - Complete file with most of the email header info removed and > page breaks inserted between messages. > > * RV10-Archive.digest.vol-?? > > - Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that > can more easily handled. > > * RV10-Archive.digest.complete.zip > > - Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but > in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods. > > * RV10-Archive.digest.complete.Z > > - Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in > UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods. > > > > Download Via FTP > ---------------- > > The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com > in the "/pub/Archives" directory. 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