---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/27/16: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:28 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Carlos Trigo) 2. 07:06 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Ed Kranz) 3. 07:40 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Carlos Trigo) 4. 08:23 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Kelly McMullen) 5. 08:26 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Kent Ogden) 6. 08:34 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Ed Kranz) 7. 08:38 AM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Ed Kranz) 8. 12:25 PM - Re: Manifold pressure sensor (rvdave) 9. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Tim Olson) 10. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Rene) 11. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Manifold pressure sensor (Werner Schneider) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:37 AM PST US From: Carlos Trigo Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor Philip, Bill, Leon Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? >From which cylinder? Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? Do you have a picture? Thanks Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone No dia 27/04/2016, s 03:46, Phillip Perry escreveu: > > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson wrote: >> >> >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the firewall. 700 trouble free hours. >> >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: >>> >>> Guys >>> >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge, and installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X system): how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? >>> >>> Best >>> Carlos >>> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor From: Ed Kranz I did the same as Phil. Mounted the MP sensor on the firewall sensor block. I also used the extra hole in the sensor block to daisy chain the MP into my lightspeed boxes. Attaching a few pics of the sensor block. From left to right: Oil pressure sensor, fuel pressure sensor, MP sensor. I have the MP on the right because I'm pulling the MP source off of Cylinder 6, instead of 5 like the plans call for. The red plastic line from the MP sensor is the line that feeds my Lightspeed boxes. By pulling MP from cylinder 6, and mounting the MP sensor there, I was able to re-use the stock MP install kit braided hose. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote : > > Philip, Bill, Leon > > Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? > >From which cylinder? > Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? > > Do you have a picture? > > Thanks > Carlos > > Enviado do meu iPhone > > No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 03:46, Phillip Perry > escreveu: > > > > > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson wrote : > >> > >> > >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the > firewall. 700 trouble free hours. > >> > >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > >>> > >>> Guys > >>> > >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge, > and installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X > system): how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? > >>> > >>> Best > >>> Carlos > >>> > >>> Enviado do meu iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:48 AM PST US From: Carlos Trigo Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor Thanks Ed That is exactly the pictures and the information I was looking for. I will use the 3rd position of the firewall sensor block, will also use the V an's braided hose and connect to cylinder #6 as well. Thanks Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 15:05, Ed Kranz escreveu: > I did the same as Phil. Mounted the MP sensor on the firewall sensor block . I also used the extra hole in the sensor block to daisy chain the MP into m y lightspeed boxes. > > Attaching a few pics of the sensor block. =46rom left to right: Oil pressu re sensor, fuel pressure sensor, MP sensor. I have the MP on the right becau se I'm pulling the MP source off of Cylinder 6, instead of 5 like the plans c all for. The red plastic line from the MP sensor is the line that feeds my L ightspeed boxes. > > By pulling MP from cylinder 6, and mounting the MP sensor there, I was abl e to re-use the stock MP install kit braided hose. > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Carlos Trigo wro te: >> >> Philip, Bill, Leon >> >> Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? >> >=46rom which cylinder? >> Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? >> >> Do you have a picture? >> >> Thanks >> Carlos >> >> Enviado do meu iPhone >> >> No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 03:46, Phillip Perry es creveu: >> >> > >> > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson wrote : >> >> >> >> >> >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the firewa ll. 700 trouble free hours. >> >> >> >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Guys >> >>> >> >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge, a nd installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X system) : how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? >> >>> >> >>> Best >> >>> Carlos >> >>> >> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ========== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:13 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor Van's hose is designed for you to connect to cyl #5 (pass side rear). IIRC that is what the plans show. -sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote : > Thanks Ed > > That is exactly the pictures and the information I was looking for. > > I will use the 3rd position of the firewall sensor block, will also use > the Van's braided hose and connect to cylinder #6 as well. > > Thanks > Carlos > > Enviado do meu iPhone > > No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 15:05, Ed Kranz escreveu: > > I did the same as Phil. Mounted the MP sensor on the firewall sensor > block. I also used the extra hole in the sensor block to daisy chain the MP > into my lightspeed boxes. > > Attaching a few pics of the sensor block. From left to right: Oil pressur e > sensor, fuel pressure sensor, MP sensor. I have the MP on the right becau se > I'm pulling the MP source off of Cylinder 6, instead of 5 like the plans > call for. The red plastic line from the MP sensor is the line that feeds my > Lightspeed boxes. > > By pulling MP from cylinder 6, and mounting the MP sensor there, I was > able to re-use the stock MP install kit braided hose. > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Carlos Trigo > wrote: > >> >> Philip, Bill, Leon >> >> Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? >> >From which cylinder? >> Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? >> >> Do you have a picture? >> >> Thanks >> Carlos >> >> Enviado do meu iPhone >> >> No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 03:46, Phillip Perry >> escreveu: >> >> > >> > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the >> firewall. 700 trouble free hours. >> >> >> >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > >> >>> >> >>> Guys >> >>> >> >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge, >> and installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X >> system): how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? >> >>> >> >>> Best >> >>> Carlos >> >>> >> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ========== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:31 AM PST US From: "Kent Ogden" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor Ed, What is the insulating material on your firewall? Was that from Aircraft Spruce? Kent >>> Ed Kranz 4/27/2016 10:05 AM >>> I did the same as Phil. Mounted the MP sensor on the firewall sensor block. I also used the extra hole in the sensor block to daisy chain the MP into my lightspeed boxes. Attaching a few pics of the sensor block. From left to right: Oil pressure sensor, fuel pressure sensor, MP sensor. I have the MP on the right because I'm pulling the MP source off of Cylinder 6, instead of 5 like the plans call for. The red plastic line from the MP sensor is the line that feeds my Lightspeed boxes. By pulling MP from cylinder 6, and mounting the MP sensor there, I was able to re-use the stock MP install kit braided hose. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: Philip, Bill, Leon Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? >From which cylinder? Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? Do you have a picture? Thanks Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone No dia 27/04/2016, s 03:46, Phillip Perry escreveu: > > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson wrote: >> >> >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the firewall. 700 trouble free hours. >> >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: >>> >>> Guys >>> >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge, and installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X system): how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? >>> >>> Best >>> Carlos >>> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone > > ========== -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ========== WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor From: Ed Kranz That is correct. It's designed to connect to #5, and then pass thru the firewall on the starboard side of the firewall, I believe with the sensor inside the firewall. I wanted the sensor on the sensor block (weird, I know). Since the sensor block is on the port side of the FW, I pulled MP off of #6. The stock MP line worked great for this run. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Van's hose is designed for you to connect to cyl #5 (pass side rear). IIR C > that is what the plans show. > > -sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Carlos Trigo > wrote: > >> Thanks Ed >> >> That is exactly the pictures and the information I was looking for. >> >> I will use the 3rd position of the firewall sensor block, will also use >> the Van's braided hose and connect to cylinder #6 as well. >> >> Thanks >> Carlos >> >> Enviado do meu iPhone >> >> No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 15:05, Ed Kranz escreveu : >> >> I did the same as Phil. Mounted the MP sensor on the firewall sensor >> block. I also used the extra hole in the sensor block to daisy chain the MP >> into my lightspeed boxes. >> >> Attaching a few pics of the sensor block. From left to right: Oil >> pressure sensor, fuel pressure sensor, MP sensor. I have the MP on the >> right because I'm pulling the MP source off of Cylinder 6, instead of 5 >> like the plans call for. The red plastic line from the MP sensor is the >> line that feeds my Lightspeed boxes. >> >> By pulling MP from cylinder 6, and mounting the MP sensor there, I was >> able to re-use the stock MP install kit braided hose. >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Carlos Trigo >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Philip, Bill, Leon >>> >>> Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? >>> >From which cylinder? >>> Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? >>> >>> Do you have a picture? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Carlos >>> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone >>> >>> No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 03:46, Phillip Perry >>> escreveu: >>> >>> > >>> > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the >>> firewall. 700 trouble free hours. >>> >> >>> >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: t >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> Guys >>> >>> >>> >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge , >>> and installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X >>> system): how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manifold pressure sensor From: Ed Kranz I was waiting for that question... It's Heatshield Mat: http://www.flyboyaccessories.com/Heat-Shield-Mat-36-x58-p/2402.htm Helps deflect engine heat, and I don't have to have any insulation on the cold side of the firewall... for reasons discussed in painful details in other threads! On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Kent Ogden wrote: > Ed, > > What is the insulating material on your firewall? Was that from Aircraft > Spruce? > > Kent > > > >>> Ed Kranz 4/27/2016 10:05 AM >>> > I did the same as Phil. Mounted the MP sensor on the firewall sensor > block. I also used the extra hole in the sensor block to daisy chain the MP > into my lightspeed boxes. > > Attaching a few pics of the sensor block. From left to right: Oil pressur e > sensor, fuel pressure sensor, MP sensor. I have the MP on the right becau se > I'm pulling the MP source off of Cylinder 6, instead of 5 like the plans > call for. The red plastic line from the MP sensor is the line that feeds my > Lightspeed boxes. > > By pulling MP from cylinder 6, and mounting the MP sensor there, I was > able to re-use the stock MP install kit braided hose. > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Carlos Trigo > wrote: > >> >> Philip, Bill, Leon >> >> Did you use the VA-119 braided hose from the VAN's MP install kit? >> >From which cylinder? >> Did you use the VA-168 triple-sender mount? >> >> Do you have a picture? >> >> Thanks >> Carlos >> >> Enviado do meu iPhone >> >> No dia 27/04/2016, =C3-s 03:46, Phillip Perry >> escreveu: >> >> > >> > Mounted to the firewall on the sensor manifold. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Bill Watson >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> GRT EIS system with the manifold pressure sensor mounted to the >> firewall. 700 trouble free hours. >> >> >> >>> On 4/26/2016 8:02 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > >> >>> >> >>> Guys >> >>> >> >>> Question for those who didn't install a Van's or other analog gauge, >> and installed an EFIS with engine monitoring (especially a GARMIN G3X >> system): how and where did you install the Manifold pressure sensor? >> >>> >> >>> Best >> >>> Carlos >> >>> >> >>> Enviado do meu iPhone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ========== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ========== >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:11 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Manifold pressure sensor From: "rvdave" I'm running a barbed fitting and poly tubing from cylinder out to sensor in, is this an acceptable way to supply pressure to sensor? -------- Dave Ford RV6 for sale RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455554#455554 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Manifold pressure sensor From: Tim Olson I vote no. I'd use some sort of braided hose at least, for the cylinder connection. On mine I used van's restrictor fitting also. That will both dampen the pulses, and prevent a major leak if the hose fails. Tim On 4/27/2016 2:24 PM, rvdave wrote: > > I'm running a barbed fitting and poly tubing from cylinder out to sensor in, is this an acceptable way to supply pressure to sensor? > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 for sale > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:44 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Manifold pressure sensor I agree with Tim. It is the way I did mine. Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:33 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Manifold pressure sensor I vote no. I'd use some sort of braided hose at least, for the cylinder connection. On mine I used van's restrictor fitting also. That will both dampen the pulses, and prevent a major leak if the hose fails. Tim On 4/27/2016 2:24 PM, rvdave wrote: > > I'm running a barbed fitting and poly tubing from cylinder out to sensor in, is this an acceptable way to supply pressure to sensor? > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 for sale > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Manifold pressure sensor From: Werner Schneider I only can support Tim's comment here. we had on a Glastar 2x a standard hose collapse until we replaced it with a thick walled braided hose. Werner On 27.04.2016 21:32, Tim Olson wrote: > > I vote no. 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