---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/10/16: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:41 AM - Re: Service Bulletin (iMac) 2. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Alan Mekler MD) 3. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Jim Combs) 4. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (John Trollinger) 5. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Phillip Perry) 6. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Marcus Cooper) 7. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Ed Kranz) 8. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Tim Olson) 9. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (David Clifford) 10. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Marcus Cooper) 11. 02:55 PM - Re: Service Bulletin (dmaib@me.com) 12. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin () 13. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Jesse Saint) 14. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Jim Combs) 15. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Jim Combs) 16. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Gary Specketer) 17. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Alan Mekler MD) 18. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Rene) 19. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Ed Kranz) 20. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin (Marcus Cooper) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:00 AM PST US From: iMac Subject: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Alan Mekler MD were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? Alan > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Jim Combs I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. 856 hours total time - no cracks. Jim Combs No Archive On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? > Alan > > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: > > > > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was > enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: John Trollinger Jim, Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area. thanks, On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or > ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just > fine. > > 856 hours total time - no cracks. > > Jim Combs > > No Archive > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD > wrote: > >> >> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >> Alan >> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >> > >> > >> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was >> enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ========== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:12 PM PST US From: Phillip Perry Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin I have my wingtips off trying to get them to fit better. (Arg!) But noticed that with the tips off, you have a straight line of sight to the backside of the bracket. With a long endoscope or borescope, you could ge t a good look at the backside. Here's some photos... Length from the outboard edge to the bracket is 56 inches. So a scope with t hat length of reach or more would be helpful. Phil Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2016, at 12:55 PM, John Trollinger wrote : > > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the are a. > > thanks, > >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: >> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailero ns. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. >> >> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >> >> Jim Combs >> >> No Archive >> >>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: >>> >>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >>> Alan >>> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was e nough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >>> ========== > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:16 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin Just did the inspection on my -10, didn=99t remove anything and used the cheaper inspection camera from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp /B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA $20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow, but I=99m pretty certain that=99s due to the computer being used. You can also record the video or take snap shots. Most importantly, no cracks! Marcus On May 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger wrote: Jim, Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area. thanks, do not archive On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs > wrote: I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. 856 hours total time - no cracks. Jim Combs No Archive On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD > wrote: > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? Alan > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac > wrote: > > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Ed Kranz I don't think that's the side that's hard to inspect. I believe it's the aft side of the spar, under the gar fairing, that requires the aileron to be removed and gap fairing to be trimmed. On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > I have my wingtips off trying to get them to fit better. (Arg!) > > But noticed that with the tips off, you have a straight line of sight to > the backside of the bracket. With a long endoscope or borescope, you > could get a good look at the backside. > > Here's some photos... > > Length from the outboard edge to the bracket is 56 inches. So a scope > with that length of reach or more would be helpful. > > Phil > > > [image: image1.JPG] > > > [image: image2.JPG] > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 10, 2016, at 12:55 PM, John Trollinger > wrote: > > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the > area. > > thanks, > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > >> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or >> ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just >> fine. >> >> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >> >> Jim Combs >> >> No Archive >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD >> wrote: >> >>> >>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >>> Alan >>> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was >>> enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Tim Olson Could you, if you get it out again soon, post a photo of what the screen looks like when inspecting something, to give an idea of the quality? Tim On 5/10/2016 2:10 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > Just did the inspection on my -10, didnt remove anything and used the > cheaper inspection camera from > Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp/B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA > $20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing > going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a > pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow, > but Im pretty certain thats due to the computer being used. You can > also record the video or take snap shots. > > Most importantly, no cracks! > > Marcus > > On May 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger > wrote: > > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area. > > thanks, > > do not archive > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs > wrote: > > I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or > ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out > just fine. > > 856 hours total time - no cracks. > > Jim Combs > > No Archive > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD > > wrote: > > > > > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? > Alan > > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac > wrote: > > > > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:18 PM PST US From: David Clifford Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin I purchased one of these cheap endoscopes also except I got mine off bay. M ine came direct from China in less than 2 weeks and was about $22 with a 15 meter cord. Fooling around with it at home after I got it, I found the pic ture/video quality pretty good after I stopped moving it around and gave it time to focus in. I purchased it specifically for assisting me do thorough condition inspections. I am in the middle of condition inspection and will see how it works for this SB next time I get to the hanger. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:46:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin Could you, if you get it out again soon, post a photo of what the screen looks like when inspecting something, to give an idea of the quality? Tim On 5/10/2016 2:10 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > Just did the inspection on my -10, didn=99t remove anything and use d the > cheaper inspection camera from > Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Insp ection/dp/B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD3 9QA > $20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing > going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a > pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow, > but I=99m pretty certain that=99s due to the computer being u sed. You can > also record the video or take snap shots. > > Most importantly, no cracks! > > Marcus > > On May 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger > wrote: > > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the ar ea. > > thanks, > > do not archive > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs > wrote: > > I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or > ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out > just fine. > > 856 hours total time - no cracks. > > Jim Combs > > No Archive > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD > > wrote: > > > > > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? > Alan > > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac > wrote: > > te1@yahoo.com>> > > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was eno ugh room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > =========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > =========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =========== > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:31 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin Sorry, I had intended to do that. Here are a few pictures from the cheaper Amazon camera. I had to play around with the light strength a little and found it would gain down based on reflected light but by running the power all the way up or down then back to medium I could get a good look, at least for a short time. The pictures actually looked better on the screen, but still not going to win any resolution awards. These are actually reduced so as not to crush anyone=99s inbox, this email is 811kb whereas it would be 4.8mb full size if that helps at all. I used the little mirror that came with it, it stays very secure so I didn=99t worry about it popping off someplace inconvenient. Marcus On May 10, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Tim Olson wrote: Could you, if you get it out again soon, post a photo of what the screen looks like when inspecting something, to give an idea of the quality? Tim On 5/10/2016 2:10 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > Just did the inspection on my -10, didn=99t remove anything and used the > cheaper inspection camera from > Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp /B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA > $20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing > going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a > pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow, > but I=99m pretty certain that=99s due to the computer being used. You can > also record the video or take snap shots. > > Most importantly, no cracks! > > Marcus > > On May 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger > wrote: > > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area. > > thanks, > > do not archive > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs > wrote: > > I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or > ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out > just fine. > > 856 hours total time - no cracks. > > Jim Combs > > No Archive > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD > > wrote: > > > > > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? > Alan > > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac > wrote: > > > > > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:36 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: "dmaib@me.com" My cheap Harbor Freight "VideoStik" flexible scope that I bought several years ago has finally proved to be useful. Inspecting the inside of the wing part of this SB went just fine using this scope. The head is 10mm, so it is really useless as far as looking into cylinders, but worked great for this. The resolution was very good. I also took a few iPhone photos of the inside and they came out fine, as well. No cracks on the inside for me. On to the brackets tomorrow. I am going to try to do it without removing the ailerons, as Deems did, but may chicken out and remove them. I considered just drilling a hole in the gap cover large enough to look in with the scope, but with a 10mm head, that would be a pretty big hole. Still might take a look at doing that. I would like to have it so I don't have to take off the ailerons every year to look at those two rivets and that small corner of the bracket. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456088#456088 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:32 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin Hey guys, Here is the one I got from China about a year and a half ago. http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-7mm-6-LED-Waterproof-Borescope-Endoscope-Inspection-Snake-Scope-Tube-Camera-/171658700857?hash=item27f7a7e839:g:c2sAAOSwq5lTrUBz It plugs directly into my usb laptop, for $10 it's a really nice picture. Either snap shots, live, or video. I made little wire gizmos to help get it where I wanted it, and it takes a little fiddling to get it oriented right. I was tuning a boat motor and the manual called for setting the carb linkage relative to the butterfly valve just beginning to move. Don't know how I could have done it so easily without the scope. Later, - Lew ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:19 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin I have the vividia scope with he articulating head and I was able to inspect inside and outside on an RV-9A without removing anything at all. Took maybe 15 minutes for the whole inspection. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. 352-427-0285 jesse@saintaviation.com Sent from my iPad > On May 10, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > > > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? > Alan >> On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >> >> >> This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Jim Combs I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have attached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right side so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. Take the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the same thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. Both sides took 20 minutes. I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area? Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. Jim C On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger wrote: > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the > area. > > thanks, > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > >> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or >> ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just >> fine. >> >> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >> >> Jim Combs >> >> No Archive >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD >> wrote: >> >>> >>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >>> Alan >>> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was >>> enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Jim Combs Trying to post this for the third time. (Images too large!) I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have attached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right side so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced the size of the "Raw" image to allow it to post. but you can see what the camera took before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest. Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. Take the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the same thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. Both sides took 20 minutes. I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area? Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. Jim C On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger wrote: > Jim, > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the > area. > > thanks, > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > >> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or >> ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just >> fine. >> >> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >> >> Jim Combs >> >> No Archive >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD >> wrote: >> >>> >>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >>> Alan >>> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was >>> enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:16 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Gary Specketer The aft side needs to be inspected too. The top rivets on the aft side canno t be seen without access behind the angle close out panel. Gary Specketer > On May 10, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > > Trying to post this for the third time. (Images too large!) > > I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have at tached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right s ide so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced the size of the "Raw" image to allow it to post. but you can see what the camera to ok before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest. > > Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. Ta ke the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the sam e thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. > > Both sides took 20 minutes. > > I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area ? > > Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. > > Jim C > > > >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger w rote: >> Jim, >> >> Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the ar ea. >> >> thanks, >> >>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote : >>> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailer ons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. >>> >>> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >>> >>> Jim Combs >>> >>> No Archive >>> >>>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: >>>> >>>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >>>> Alan >>>> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was e nough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========== >>>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV10-List >>>> ========== >>>> FORUMS - >>>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> WIKI - >>>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion >>>> ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:21 PM PST US From: Alan Mekler MD Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin Jim, Which inspection hole did you use? Alan Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > > Trying to post this for the third time. (Images too large!) > > I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have at tached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right s ide so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced the size of the "Raw" image to allow it to post. but you can see what the camera to ok before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest. > > Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. Ta ke the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the sam e thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. > > Both sides took 20 minutes. > > I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area ? > > Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. > > Jim C > > > >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger w rote: >> Jim, >> >> Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the ar ea. >> >> thanks, >> >>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote : >>> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailer ons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. >>> >>> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >>> >>> Jim Combs >>> >>> No Archive >>> >>>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: >>>> >>>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >>>> Alan >>>> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was e nough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========== >>>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV10-List >>>> ========== >>>> FORUMS - >>>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> WIKI - >>>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> b Site - >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion >>>> ========== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:15 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin I just did mine. No disassembly. No cracks. Use bore scope. Took longer to remove and replace the inspection plates than to do the instpection. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Mekler MD Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:15 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin Jim, Which inspection hole did you use? Alan Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jim Combs wrote: Trying to post this for the third time. (Images too large!) I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have attached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right side so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced the size of the "Raw" image to allow it to post. but you can see what the camera took before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest. Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. Take the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the same thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. Both sides took 20 minutes. I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area? Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. Jim C On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger wrote: Jim, Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area. thanks, On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. 856 hours total time - no cracks. Jim Combs No Archive On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? Alan > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin From: Ed Kranz Anyone who's done the inspection: Were you able to fit the borescope inside of the gap fairing without removing the aileron or trimming the gar fairing corner (to inspect the aft side of the spar)? On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Rene wrote: > I just did mine. No disassembly. No cracks. Use bore scope. Took > longer to remove and replace the inspection plates than to do the > instpection. > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Mekler MD > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:15 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin > > > Jim, > > Which inspection hole did you use? > > Alan > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 10, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > > Trying to post this for the third time. (Images too large!) > > > I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have > attached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the > right side so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced > the size of the "Raw" image to allow it to post. but you can see what the > camera took before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest. > > > Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole > with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. > Take the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the > same thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. > > > Both sides took 20 minutes. > > > I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but > I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area? > > > Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. > > > Jim C > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger > wrote: > > Jim, > > > Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the > area. > > > thanks, > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > > I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or > ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just > fine. > > > 856 hours total time - no cracks. > > > Jim Combs > > > No Archive > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD > wrote: > > > were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? > Alan > > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: > > > > > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was > enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:10:00 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin The pictures I attached earlier from the Amazon inspection camera were taken by routing the camera behind the gap fairing using the enclosed mirror. Marcus > On May 10, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Ed Kranz wrote: > > Anyone who's done the inspection: > > Were you able to fit the borescope inside of the gap fairing without remov ing the aileron or trimming the gar fairing corner (to inspect the aft side o f the spar)? > > > >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Rene wrote: >> I just did mine. No disassembly. No cracks. Use bore scope. Took long er to remove and replace the inspection plates than to do the instpection. >> >> Do not archive >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Mekler MD >> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:15 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin >> >> >> >> Jim, >> >> Which inspection hole did you use? >> >> Alan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On May 10, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jim Combs wrote: >> >> Trying to post this for the third time. (Images too large!) >> >> >> >> I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have a ttached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right side so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced the si ze of the "Raw" image to allow it to post. but you can see what the camera t ook before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest. >> >> >> >> Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hol e with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. T ake the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the sa me thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. >> >> >> >> Both sides took 20 minutes. >> >> >> >> I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, bu t I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the are a? >> >> >> >> Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying. >> >> >> >> Jim C >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger w rote: >> >> Jim, >> >> >> >> Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the ar ea. >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs wrote: >> >> I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailero ns. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. >> >> >> >> 856 hours total time - no cracks. >> >> >> >> Jim Combs >> >> >> >> No Archive >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD w rote: >> >> >> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? >> Alan >> > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac wrote: >> > >> > >> > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. 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