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Tue 08/09/16


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 02:58 AM - Re: Rear seat vents handle (Carlos Trigo)
     2. 03:01 AM - Re: Re: Rear seat vents handle (Carlos Trigo)
     3. 03:22 AM - Landing gear legs (Carlos Trigo)
     4. 05:01 AM - Re: Landing gear legs (Carl Froehlich)
     5. 05:19 AM - Re: Landing gear legs (Jesse Saint)
     6. 05:27 AM - Re: Landing gear legs (Carlos Trigo)
     7. 05:46 AM - Re: Landing gear legs (Carl Froehlich)
     8. 06:22 AM - Re: Landing gear legs (Kelly McMullen)
     9. 11:16 PM - Re: Right Seat Arm Rest at Door (woxofswa)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:58:31 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Rear seat vents handle
    Thank you David You probably remember that I flew in your RV-10, but I was in the front right seat, so I didn=99t see your rear seat vents. I miss California and those good beaches Carlos De: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de David Saylor Enviada: Sunday, August 7, 2016 12:16 AM Para: rv10-list@matronics.com Assunto: Re: RV10-List: Rear seat vents handle I just took the two layers that form the aluminum tab and bent them 90* to make something to grip/push. -Dave On Saturday, August 6, 2016, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt <mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt> > wrote: <javascript:;> > Guys In the 2 rear seat vents, what did you use as handles? Thanks Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone


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    Time: 03:01:06 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: Rear seat vents handle
    Greg Thank you for a really simple idea, but it seems that the key rings would not be so good for pushing as for pulling the vents. Cheers Carlos -----Mensagem original----- De: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de Greg McFarlane Enviada: Sunday, August 7, 2016 10:16 AM Para: rv10-list@matronics.com Assunto: RV10-List: Re: Rear seat vents handle --> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> Good quality key rings work a treat, drill one hole, easily fitted, good grip, light weight. Cheers from Western Australiauj Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459284#459284


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    Time: 03:22:11 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Landing gear legs
    Guys Let's pull out your bag of tricks ... 1 - I am having difficulties inserting the L & R main gear legs, and I don't want to use any technique that will ruin something. Will it be because of the high temperatures here (over 96F)? Can I use sand paper on the inner surfaces of the WD-1021 and on the outer surfaces of the legs? Should I use some kind of lubricant? In one word, are there any tricks to facilitate the insertion of the main gear legs? 2 - Regarding the Nose Gear leg, I'm having trouble to thread the MS21025-24 big nut into the spindle of the WD-1017 Nose gear leg. I see no scratches in the thread or on the nut, so what is the trick here? 3 - Still in the nose gear leg, despite trying to do what is indicated in the manual, I am not succeeding in compressing the 4 "Mooney" rubber dampers, in order to install the upper bolt through the gear link. What technique did you use? Thanks Carlos


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    Time: 05:01:36 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Landing gear legs
    As a rule, never put two pieces of metal together (like gear legs into weldments) without grease. The grease will help on the install, and the grease will prevent the two piece of metal from fusing together with corrosion. Any standard grease is fine. Same goes for when you install the wings to the fuselage. On the bolt and nut - try a new bolt and nut. On the nose gear dampers, it helps if you have the engine mounted. Chock the wheels and use a long ram jack to GENTLY push up on the tail. Use a 2x6 or such with a lot of padding between the bottom of the tail and the jack. The alternative is to get a heavy duty ratcheting cargo strap and run it between the top of the engine mount and the nose gear, and start ratcheting. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:21 AM Subject: RV10-List: Landing gear legs Guys Let's pull out your bag of tricks ... 1 - I am having difficulties inserting the L & R main gear legs, and I don't want to use any technique that will ruin something. Will it be because of the high temperatures here (over 96F)? Can I use sand paper on the inner surfaces of the WD-1021 and on the outer surfaces of the legs? Should I use some kind of lubricant? In one word, are there any tricks to facilitate the insertion of the main gear legs? 2 - Regarding the Nose Gear leg, I'm having trouble to thread the MS21025-24 big nut into the spindle of the WD-1017 Nose gear leg. I see no scratches in the thread or on the nut, so what is the trick here? 3 - Still in the nose gear leg, despite trying to do what is indicated in the manual, I am not succeeding in compressing the 4 "Mooney" rubber dampers, in order to install the upper bolt through the gear link. What technique did you use? Thanks Carlos


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    Time: 05:19:28 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear legs
    I'll reply below. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. 352-427-0285 jesse@saintaviation.com Sent from my iPad > On Aug 9, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > > > Guys > > Let's pull out your bag of tricks ... > > 1 - I am having difficulties inserting the L & R main gear legs, and I don't > want to use any technique that will ruin something. > Will it be because of the high temperatures here (over 96F)? > Can I use sand paper on the inner surfaces of the WD-1021 and on the outer > surfaces of the legs? > Should I use some kind of lubricant? > In one word, are there any tricks to facilitate the insertion of the main > gear legs? As Carl said, up grease in all of the bearing surfaces. That should help putting them together. > > 2 - Regarding the Nose Gear leg, I'm having trouble to thread the MS21025-24 > big nut into the spindle of the WD-1017 Nose gear leg. > I see no scratches in the thread or on the nut, so what is the trick here? I have never had trouble getting them on. Are you sure you are using the right nut? > > 3 - Still in the nose gear leg, despite trying to do what is indicated in > the manual, I am not succeeding in compressing the 4 "Mooney" rubber > dampers, in order to install the upper bolt through the gear link. > What technique did you use? There are a couple of ways to do this. The easiest is with the engine mounted then putting a ratchet strap from the engine to the nose gear fork area (anywhere it can hold on) and tighten until the bolt fits. You can also lift on the tail, but you will likely lift the mains off the floor before the bolt fits. We have also run a ratchet strap from an intersection of tubes on the engine mount to the gear leg to compress them. > > Thanks > Carlos > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:27:55 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Landing gear legs
    Carl (we're probably twin souls...) Thanks for the tips, especially the one to compress the rubber dampers. As for the big nut not threading, it's not on a bolt, it's on the thread in the nose gear leg bottom tip, so I can try a new nut (difficult to get from Oregon to Portugal...) but not a new nose gear leg :-) Carlos -----Mensagem original----- De: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de Carl Froehlich Enviada: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:01 PM Para: rv10-list@matronics.com Assunto: RE: RV10-List: Landing gear legs --> <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> As a rule, never put two pieces of metal together (like gear legs into weldments) without grease. The grease will help on the install, and the grease will prevent the two piece of metal from fusing together with corrosion. Any standard grease is fine. Same goes for when you install the wings to the fuselage. On the bolt and nut - try a new bolt and nut. On the nose gear dampers, it helps if you have the engine mounted. Chock the wheels and use a long ram jack to GENTLY push up on the tail. Use a 2x6 or such with a lot of padding between the bottom of the tail and the jack. The alternative is to get a heavy duty ratcheting cargo strap and run it between the top of the engine mount and the nose gear, and start ratcheting. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:21 AM Subject: RV10-List: Landing gear legs Guys Let's pull out your bag of tricks ... 1 - I am having difficulties inserting the L & R main gear legs, and I don't want to use any technique that will ruin something. Will it be because of the high temperatures here (over 96F)? Can I use sand paper on the inner surfaces of the WD-1021 and on the outer surfaces of the legs? Should I use some kind of lubricant? In one word, are there any tricks to facilitate the insertion of the main gear legs? 2 - Regarding the Nose Gear leg, I'm having trouble to thread the MS21025-24 big nut into the spindle of the WD-1017 Nose gear leg. I see no scratches in the thread or on the nut, so what is the trick here? 3 - Still in the nose gear leg, despite trying to do what is indicated in the manual, I am not succeeding in compressing the 4 "Mooney" rubber dampers, in order to install the upper bolt through the gear link. What technique did you use? Thanks Carlos


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    Time: 05:46:39 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Landing gear legs
    Ok - so perhaps the first thread on the gear leg got messed up. If you never chased threads before, ask someone to come over and carefully dress the first thread. If you cross threaded the nut, then get a new nut. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:27 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Landing gear legs Carl (we're probably twin souls...) Thanks for the tips, especially the one to compress the rubber dampers. As for the big nut not threading, it's not on a bolt, it's on the thread in the nose gear leg bottom tip, so I can try a new nut (difficult to get from Oregon to Portugal...) but not a new nose gear leg :-) Carlos -----Mensagem original----- De: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de Carl Froehlich Enviada: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:01 PM Para: rv10-list@matronics.com Assunto: RE: RV10-List: Landing gear legs --> <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> As a rule, never put two pieces of metal together (like gear legs into weldments) without grease. The grease will help on the install, and the grease will prevent the two piece of metal from fusing together with corrosion. Any standard grease is fine. Same goes for when you install the wings to the fuselage. On the bolt and nut - try a new bolt and nut. On the nose gear dampers, it helps if you have the engine mounted. Chock the wheels and use a long ram jack to GENTLY push up on the tail. Use a 2x6 or such with a lot of padding between the bottom of the tail and the jack. The alternative is to get a heavy duty ratcheting cargo strap and run it between the top of the engine mount and the nose gear, and start ratcheting. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:21 AM Subject: RV10-List: Landing gear legs Guys Let's pull out your bag of tricks ... 1 - I am having difficulties inserting the L & R main gear legs, and I don't want to use any technique that will ruin something. Will it be because of the high temperatures here (over 96F)? Can I use sand paper on the inner surfaces of the WD-1021 and on the outer surfaces of the legs? Should I use some kind of lubricant? In one word, are there any tricks to facilitate the insertion of the main gear legs? 2 - Regarding the Nose Gear leg, I'm having trouble to thread the MS21025-24 big nut into the spindle of the WD-1017 Nose gear leg. I see no scratches in the thread or on the nut, so what is the trick here? 3 - Still in the nose gear leg, despite trying to do what is indicated in the manual, I am not succeeding in compressing the 4 "Mooney" rubber dampers, in order to install the upper bolt through the gear link. What technique did you use? Thanks Carlos


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    Time: 06:22:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Landing gear legs
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    I would infer from your questions that you are trying to do some of the gear steps out of order. With the mains you need to ensure the socket interior and the gear leg are smooth, with no rough edges. Use medium to fine sandpaper on rough areas, or Scotchbrite. You will need grease. On the nose gear nut, examine the threads carefully. Something is not right if you can't get it started by hand. The donuts do not get compressed until you have the plane on the gear. You need to be able to lower the nose gear leg enough to insert the strut into the bracket, and bolt the lower end. The compression is only done with plane on the gear, to secure the cap at the top of the strut. As Carl indicated the easy way is to use an aircraft jack on the tail tiedown ring (or jack point inserted in place of the ring is safer). Slowly raise the tail and keep checking until you have just enough to install the retaining bolt. Oh, and yes, the shock disks are in fact the part number used on all three Mooney landing gear. On 8/9/2016 3:21 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > > Guys > > Let's pull out your bag of tricks ... > > 1 - I am having difficulties inserting the L & R main gear legs, and I don't > want to use any technique that will ruin something. > Will it be because of the high temperatures here (over 96F)? > Can I use sand paper on the inner surfaces of the WD-1021 and on the outer > surfaces of the legs? > Should I use some kind of lubricant? > In one word, are there any tricks to facilitate the insertion of the main > gear legs? > > 2 - Regarding the Nose Gear leg, I'm having trouble to thread the MS21025-24 > big nut into the spindle of the WD-1017 Nose gear leg. > I see no scratches in the thread or on the nut, so what is the trick here? > > 3 - Still in the nose gear leg, despite trying to do what is indicated in > the manual, I am not succeeding in compressing the 4 "Mooney" rubber > dampers, in order to install the upper bolt through the gear link. > What technique did you use? > > Thanks > Carlos > >


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    Time: 11:16:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Right Seat Arm Rest at Door
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    I ordered armrests from a wheelchair supply catalog. I then had them recovered in excess ultraleather to match my interior and mounted the to the door with lightweight angle stock. Look great, very comfortable, draw lots of compliments. (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/myronnelson/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsowyyfic8.jpeg.html) -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Flew May 10 2014 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459417#459417




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