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Wed 08/17/16


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 09:55 AM - Re: Front seat belts - Part 2 (Ron Walker)
     2. 10:40 AM - Re: Front seat belts - Part 2 (Carl Froehlich)
     3. 11:39 AM - Re: Front seat belts - Part 2 (Ed Kranz)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:55:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Front seat belts - Part 2
    From: Ron Walker <n520tx@gmail.com>
    Hello again everyone-- I just finished countersinking the cabin top attach points for the shoulder belts (Thanks Lew!) and promptly attempted installation of the nice new belts that I received from CROW. Imagine my surprise when I discover that the shoulder attach point fitting is for a 1/4" mount, not a 5/16". Got off the phone with CROW with them telling me that there is no 5/16" attach for these belts - in fact, he just sent a dozen sets to Vans for the RV10 that have the same 1/4" mounting hole. Triple checking the plans, and it is indeed a 5/16 hole that goes there ... I don't want to expand the 1/4" myself, to much material would be removed. Am I just not asking the right questions here ? Anyone else go through this ? --Ron On 07/13/2016 03:19 PM, Ron Walker wrote: > > Time for me to install the front seat belts. I don't want to go with > the Vans offering, they have come undone in my 7a too many times to > trust. Does anyone have the measurements handy ? I think the critical > distance is the shoulder straps where they merge into the "Y" behind > your neck, then progress to the hard point on the cabin top. > > Or better yet, the exact model number for a CROW offering of seatbelts > that would work in the front ? > > --Ron >


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    Time: 10:40:34 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Front seat belts - Part 2
    Nope - not an issue with Hooker Harness. Assuming you maintain edge distance you can drill them out. I guess as alternative you can use a 1/4" screw. What have others done? Regardless of what you do, recommend: - Adding 6-8 bids of glass on the inside of the canopy top, 6" square or so to provide some meat for the screw. After you countersink the screw the top get pretty thin. - Use a screw that is long enough so you can add a thin nut just on the inside of the cabin to lock it in place. That way you can remove the second nut holding the belt on without worrying about the screw spinning and messing up your finish. - When you put the screw through the top, flatten the screw head to make it square and embed it in flox. Once set you can sand smooth then final fill with micro balloons. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Walker Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front seat belts - Part 2 Hello again everyone-- I just finished countersinking the cabin top attach points for the shoulder belts (Thanks Lew!) and promptly attempted installation of the nice new belts that I received from CROW. Imagine my surprise when I discover that the shoulder attach point fitting is for a 1/4" mount, not a 5/16". Got off the phone with CROW with them telling me that there is no 5/16" attach for these belts - in fact, he just sent a dozen sets to Vans for the RV10 that have the same 1/4" mounting hole. Triple checking the plans, and it is indeed a 5/16 hole that goes there ... I don't want to expand the 1/4" myself, to much material would be removed. Am I just not asking the right questions here ? Anyone else go through this ? --Ron On 07/13/2016 03:19 PM, Ron Walker wrote: > > Time for me to install the front seat belts. I don't want to go with > the Vans offering, they have come undone in my 7a too many times to > trust. Does anyone have the measurements handy ? I think the critical > distance is the shoulder straps where they merge into the "Y" behind > your neck, then progress to the hard point on the cabin top. > > Or better yet, the exact model number for a CROW offering of seatbelts > that would work in the front ? > > --Ron >


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    Time: 11:39:26 AM PST US
    From: Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Front seat belts - Part 2
    I just used the stock bolts, and then got 5/16(ID) and 1/4(OD) spacers from Mcmaster Carr. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net > wrote: > carl.froehlich@verizon.net> > > Nope - not an issue with Hooker Harness. > > Assuming you maintain edge distance you can drill them out. I guess as > alternative you can use a 1/4" screw. What have others done? > > Regardless of what you do, recommend: > - Adding 6-8 bids of glass on the inside of the canopy top, 6" square or so > to provide some meat for the screw. After you countersink the screw the > top > get pretty thin. > - Use a screw that is long enough so you can add a thin nut just on the > inside of the cabin to lock it in place. That way you can remove the > second > nut holding the belt on without worrying about the screw spinning and > messing up your finish. > - When you put the screw through the top, flatten the screw head to make it > square and embed it in flox. Once set you can sand smooth then final fill > with micro balloons. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Walker > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front seat belts - Part 2 > > > Hello again everyone-- > > I just finished countersinking the cabin top attach points for the shoulder > belts (Thanks Lew!) and promptly attempted installation of the nice new > belts that I received from CROW. Imagine my surprise when I discover that > the shoulder attach point fitting is for a 1/4" mount, not a 5/16". > > Got off the phone with CROW with them telling me that there is no 5/16" > attach for these belts - in fact, he just sent a dozen sets to Vans for the > RV10 that have the same 1/4" mounting hole. > > Triple checking the plans, and it is indeed a 5/16 hole that goes there ... > I don't want to expand the 1/4" myself, to much material would be removed. > > Am I just not asking the right questions here ? Anyone else go through this > ? > > --Ron > > > On 07/13/2016 03:19 PM, Ron Walker wrote: > > > > Time for me to install the front seat belts. I don't want to go with > > the Vans offering, they have come undone in my 7a too many times to > > trust. Does anyone have the measurements handy ? I think the critical > > distance is the shoulder straps where they merge into the "Y" behind > > your neck, then progress to the hard point on the cabin top. > > > > Or better yet, the exact model number for a CROW offering of seatbelts > > that would work in the front ? > > > > --Ron > > > >




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