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1. 04:22 AM - Re: Prop Governor Alternative (Greg McFarlane)
2. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Prop Governor Alternative (Craig Rufi)
3. 12:09 PM - Re: Prop Governor Alternative (woxofswa)
4. 02:13 PM - Re: Prop Governor Alternative (kearney)
5. 03:31 PM - Re: Prop Governor Alternative (woxofswa)
6. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: Prop Governor Alternative (Carlos Trigo)
7. 04:24 PM - Re: Prop Governor Alternative (woxofswa)
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
The other alternative is the MT P-860-5 with the gear reduction of .947:1 that
MT recommend for the Wide Deck IO 540s that most of the RV10 fleet have. The
MT P-860-3 as others, including MT have said has a gear reduction of .895:1
which is recommended for the older narrow deck engines.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
Thanks,
I will return to MT for the service bulletin...
Craig
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> The other alternative is the MT P-860-5 with the gear reduction of .947:1
> that MT recommend for the Wide Deck IO 540s that most of the RV10 fleet
> have. The MT P-860-3 as others, including MT have said has a gear
> reduction of .895:1 which is recommended for the older narrow deck engines.
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459947#459947
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Thank You,
Craig Rufi
Email craigr60@gmail.com
Cell 805 402-6480
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
Greg McFarlane wrote:
> The other alternative is the MT P-860-5 with the gear reduction of .947:1 that
MT recommend for the Wide Deck IO 540s that most of the RV10 fleet have. The
MT P-860-3 as others, including MT have said has a gear reduction of .895:1
which is recommended for the older narrow deck engines.
That's true. However, in the past week it has been confirmed that:
1. The internals of the -3 and -5 are exactly the same.
2. The ratio difference should not cause a failure.
3. The -5's will be included in the SB.
4. MT and Van's originally recommended the -3 for all 540 engines.
5. Van's sold dozens if not hundreds of -3 units to wide deck owners. I don't
believe that Van's catalog even offered a -5 until the outbreak began.
6. Van's offered two Hartzell models with the two ratios, but until recently listed
them in the catalog as for "O" or "IO" which doesn't make any difference.
7. Jihostroj used to make the PG's for MT until AVIA took over and they all trace
back to an original Czech military design. (so I've been told)
Of course all is subject to change on almost a daily basis.
I still believe that it is too early to make a definitive decision on anything
other than the correct Hartzell for your configuration if you need to fly right
away.
My opinion only YMMV.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
Myron
I don't agree with your final conclusion.
Based on my discussion with APS (who market the PCU5000X), Avia took over the MT
PG in 2004. The MT design (from Avia) is different than the PCU5000X and has
evolved independently.
Since 2004, the Jihostroj has been selling PGs (e.g. the PCU5000X) based on its
proprietary design.
Personally, I have no problem flying behind my PCU5000X.
For info, I repeat Sean's email:
Les,
Briefly going over what we discussed earlier, the Aero Technologies, LLC PCU5000X
is manufactured by Jihostroj in the Czech Republic, we started our partnership
back in 2004 and it continues to today. MT Propellers governor is manufactured
by AVIA also in the Czech Republic but it is a competing company with its
own proprietary design. VAF Special is the code to use if you want a PCU5000X
at $1,250.00 USD plus shipping, normal MSRP is $1,600.00 USD. Thank you for the
phone call and being a loyal aviator.
Sean O'Keefe
Business Unit Manager
Aircraft Propeller Service, LLC D.B.A.
Aero Technologies, LLC
595 Telser Road
Lake Zurich, IL 60047
1(847) 541-1133 ext. 109
Direct Line 1(224) 676-6909
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
That's fine. I completely understand. The value of these forums is information
and debate.
When something like this happens to you, the first thing that happens is you have
to make dozens of phone calls. The first time I called MT they said they'd
never heard of this issue. The second time I called them, I was told that they
(MT-USA) were just a satellite office and that all inquiries would have to be
directed to Germany which normal business hours end at 8:00 am my time. When
I finally got ahold of Germany, I was told that they were waiting for info back
from the CR and that all future info would be handled by the USA office, the
VERY OFFICE THAT TOLD ME TO CALL EUROPE.
When I called Hartzell, I was immediately connected to a tech rep that spoke my
language and spent 45 minutes with me answering questions and later voluntarily
spoke with my insurance adjuster to clarify an extremely important issue which
saved me a lot of money.
I have zero basis to degrade the PCU model. It may be the best there is. I have
just garnered a new appreciation for US based companies.
We are all creations of the sum of our collective experience. I write this sitting
in a VW Passat TDI that VW is about to buy back.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
Dear Myron
That's called nationalism ...
Not good, not bad, it's just what it is
Regards
Carlos
(No hard feelings from Europe)
Enviado do meu iPhone
No dia 27/08/2016, s 23:30, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> escreveu:
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> That's fine. I completely understand. The value of these forums is information
and debate.
>
> When something like this happens to you, the first thing that happens is you
have to make dozens of phone calls. The first time I called MT they said they'd
never heard of this issue. The second time I called them, I was told that they
(MT-USA) were just a satellite office and that all inquiries would have to
be directed to Germany which normal business hours end at 8:00 am my time. When
I finally got ahold of Germany, I was told that they were waiting for info back
from the CR and that all future info would be handled by the USA office, the
VERY OFFICE THAT TOLD ME TO CALL EUROPE.
>
> When I called Hartzell, I was immediately connected to a tech rep that spoke
my language and spent 45 minutes with me answering questions and later voluntarily
spoke with my insurance adjuster to clarify an extremely important issue
which saved me a lot of money.
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> I have zero basis to degrade the PCU model. It may be the best there is. I have
just garnered a new appreciation for US based companies.
>
> We are all creations of the sum of our collective experience. I write this sitting
in a VW Passat TDI that VW is about to buy back.
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> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Flew May 10 2014
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Alternative |
Carlos,
My parents were European. My wife's family Canadian. I spent a good part of my
childhood in England and my early Adulthood in Argentina. I possess a European
CAA license obtained in Belgium. I just bought my wife a Subaru to replace her
beloved VW TDI.
I assure you that my "asunto" is one of access and convenience, and not nationalism.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
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