---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/30/16: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:07 AM - RV-14 (Albert) 2. 07:11 AM - Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. (Lenny Iszak) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: RV-14 (Linn Walters) 4. 07:23 AM - Re: RV-14 (Tim Olson) 5. 07:23 AM - wrench (David) 6. 07:32 AM - Re: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. (Kelly McMullen) 7. 09:21 AM - Re: RV-14 (Kelly McMullen) 8. 09:30 AM - Re: RV-14 (Tim Olson) 9. 01:39 PM - Re: RV-14 (Kelly McMullen) 10. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. (Kelly McMullen) 11. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. (Danny Riggs) 12. 07:06 PM - Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. (woxofswa) 13. 07:33 PM - Gear wheel nuts (Doc) 14. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. (Sean Stephens) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:41 AM PST US From: "Albert" Subject: RV10-List: RV-14 What online list are RV-14 builders most active on? There is a new builder here and I want to point him to a good source of info. I would think there is a lot in common between the 10 and the 14. Maybe this list is a good place. Albert Gardner RV-10 N991RV Yuma, AZ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:29 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. From: "Lenny Iszak" Finally got a hold of the SB 31 document from MT. http://www.311lz.com/docs/SB_31.pdf -------- Lenny N311LZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460030#460030 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-14 From: Linn Walters He (or she ;-)) might find -14 folks on rv-list@matronics.com, or start a RV-14 specific list by contacting dralle@matronics.com. Linn On 8/30/2016 10:04 AM, Albert wrote: > > What online list are RV-14 builders most active on? There is a new builder > here and I want to point him to a good source of info. I would think there > is a lot in common between the 10 and the 14. Maybe this list is a good > place. > Albert Gardner > RV-10 N991RV > Yuma, AZ > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-14 From: Tim Olson When I started building I asked Matt to start an RV-14 matronics list. He did. But, people don't post much there. Sadly most of it is on VAF. That means slower response to questions since not everyone logs on all the time. I'd tell him to sign on the matronics list, but check VAF regularly also. Tim do not archive On 8/30/2016 9:04 AM, Albert wrote: > > What online list are RV-14 builders most active on? There is a new builder > here and I want to point him to a good source of info. I would think there > is a lot in common between the 10 and the 14. Maybe this list is a good > place. > Albert Gardner > RV-10 N991RV > Yuma, AZ > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:17 AM PST US From: "David" Subject: RV10-List: wrench My flying buddies joke about my "machine shop in the baggage area". Of course one has had more emergencies with his aircraft in the last six months than I have had in 52 years as a pilot. I carry a 40# tool box with enough tools to do any job on the aircraft except overhaul the engine and about 10# of spare parts in another box. The tool box contains spare fasteners as well. The spare parts include extra CBs, alternator belt, two tube types, extra brake shoes with pads, spare O rings, etc. Because most of the items on our aircraft do not have "continued airworthiness instructions", many larger FBOs are prohibited from working on them by their maintenance insurance carrier. At the big FBO at Austin I was told by an employee (in tuxedo, while I stood there in Bermuda shorts) that "we cannot work on your aircraft sir, but you may use our hangar and tools as you wish". In the Austin case I repaired a minor problem on my Glastar outside their hangar with tools and fasteners from my onboard box. At least a small tool box and a few spare parts may someday speed you on your way. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:10 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. I don't know how definitive that list is. There are supposedly other dash numbers included. I see my serial number there under a different model number than it is. I don't see the SB on MT's web site right now. -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote: > > Finally got a hold of the SB 31 document from MT. > > http://www.311lz.com/docs/SB_31.pdf > > -------- > Lenny > N311LZ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460030#460030 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:02 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-14 Perhaps some of us RV-10 guys should moniter the -14 list. I am providing tech counselor services on a -14 under construction now, so would be good to see some of the issues. Kelly -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > When I started building I asked Matt to start an RV-14 matronics list. > He did. But, people don't post much there. Sadly most of it is > on VAF. That means slower response to questions since not everyone > logs on all the time. > > I'd tell him to sign on the matronics list, but check VAF regularly > also. > Tim > do not archive > > > On 8/30/2016 9:04 AM, Albert wrote: > >> >> What online list are RV-14 builders most active on? There is a new builder >> here and I want to point him to a good source of info. I would think there >> is a lot in common between the 10 and the 14. Maybe this list is a good >> place. >> Albert Gardner >> RV-10 N991RV >> Yuma, AZ >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-14 From: Tim Olson Sure, I'd say that's a good idea. There isn't much for email traffic, so it doesn't flood your inbox. But, I do like it as an alternative. Tim On 8/30/2016 11:19 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Perhaps some of us RV-10 guys should moniter the -14 list. I am > providing tech counselor services on a -14 under construction now, so > would be good to see some of the issues. > Kelly > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:05 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-14 I signed up, but didn't see much but November fund raising and a few questions from some guy named Tim. 8^) No questions about double puck brakes or wingtip alignment, etc. -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Sure, I'd say that's a good idea. > > There isn't much for email traffic, so it doesn't flood your > inbox. But, I do like it as an alternative. > Tim > > > On 8/30/2016 11:19 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > >> Perhaps some of us RV-10 guys should moniter the -14 list. I am >> providing tech counselor services on a -14 under construction now, so >> would be good to see some of the issues. >> Kelly >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:49 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. Just heard from Juergen at MT-USA, the service bulletin was issued yesterday, he was doing my governor when he called.So, I might be able to get back in the air next week. -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:31 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > I don't know how definitive that list is. There are supposedly other dash > numbers included. I see my serial number there under a different model > number than it is. I don't see the SB on MT's web site right now. > > -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Lenny Iszak > wrote: > >> >> Finally got a hold of the SB 31 document from MT. >> >> http://www.311lz.com/docs/SB_31.pdf >> >> -------- >> Lenny >> N311LZ >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460030#460030 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:50 PM PST US From: Danny Riggs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. I certainly had great news today! I read Hartzell on my PG when I pulled of f the cowl. I got the engine from Barrett and was sure it was MT. Whew!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: Just heard from Juergen at MT-USA, the service bulletin was issued yesterda y, he was doing my governor when he called.So, I might be able to get back in the air next week. -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:31 AM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: I don't know how definitive that list is. There are supposedly other dash n umbers included. I see my serial number there under a different model numbe r than it is. I don't see the SB on MT's web site right now. -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Lenny Iszak > wrote: ilto:lenard@rapiddecision.com>> Finally got a hold of the SB 31 document from MT. http://www.311lz.com/docs/SB_31.pdf -------- Lenny N311LZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460030#460030 -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga tor?RV10-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:42 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. From: "woxofswa" One update that some might find interesting. I took my prop to Ottosen's propeller which is a large Hartzell authorized repair station and distributer that's been around for decades. They told me that on teardown, they discovered that my "pre-load plate" had shifted position by 1/8th inch due to the failure. (Mine was the one that failed to full coarse pitch). I had no idea what that meant, but they said that it was a huge deal and something that they had never actually seen before. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Flew May 10 2014 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460057#460057 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:43 PM PST US From: Doc Subject: RV10-List: Gear wheel nuts The landing gear wheel nuts should be only hand tight (just to the point where there is no play in the wheel when it is pushed in and out) then backed off to the nearest cotter pin alignment hole. At most you should use a pair of pliers to snug the nut up. You will not need a "wrench" to tighten the nuts ever. Getting the cotter pin through the nut and axle can be a challenge though. Good luck. Doc 41087 123CV ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:28 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: MT P860-3 Prop Gov fail. I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but... I believe our propellers are designed to return to fine pitch. There's a spring on the piston in the prop hub that will force the prop back to that state on loss of oil. Not positive, but I believe multi-engine props are designed exactly the opposite to reduce drag on the failed engine? - Sean #40303 (sending my PG to Florida this week) > woxofswa > August 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM > > One update that some might find interesting. I took my prop to > Ottosen's propeller which is a large Hartzell authorized repair > station and distributer that's been around for decades. > They told me that on teardown, they discovered that my "pre-load > plate" had shifted position by 1/8th inch due to the failure. (Mine > was the one that failed to full coarse pitch). I had no idea what that > meant, but they said that it was a huge deal and something that they > had never actually seen before. > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Flew May 10 2014 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460057#460057 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.