---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/04/16: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:07 AM - Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag (whodja) 2. 05:17 AM - Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag (Flysrv10) 3. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag (Flysrv10) 4. 05:39 AM - Re: MT P-860-3 Update Complete (Shannon Hicks) 5. 05:43 AM - surefly electronic mag (Linn Walters) 6. 05:57 AM - Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag (whodja) 7. 09:06 AM - Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag (Lenny Iszak) 8. 11:08 AM - AOG in Michigan (Tim Olson) 9. 11:45 AM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Tim Olson) 10. 01:06 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (davidsoutpost) 11. 01:46 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Miller John) 12. 01:46 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Miller John) 13. 02:25 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Linn Walters) 14. 02:36 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Kelly McMullen) 15. 03:20 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Tim Olson) 16. 03:20 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Tim Olson) 17. 03:36 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Ed Kranz) 18. 04:04 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (John Lark) 19. 05:33 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Jesse Saint) 20. 06:00 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Gary Specketer) 21. 06:09 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Tim Olson) 22. 07:22 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Tim Lewis) 23. 08:04 PM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:07 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag From: "whodja" I'm also interested to know. Has anyone used the Sure Fly electronic Ignition? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460238#460238 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:37 AM PST US From: Flysrv10 Subject: Re: RV10-List: 6 Cylinder P Mag Albert, Seems like we are all waiting for the Pmag. Last sun/fun, I spotted Surefly e lectronic ignition across from Pmag's booth. You might want to look into the product. There are differences between the two, one being that Surefly is a vailable right now. Do not archive. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Albert wrote: > > Has anyone received a P Mag yet? Really interested in hearing how they wor k. The 4 Cylinder version seems to be fine. > Albert Gardner > RV-10 N991RV > Yuma, AZ > PS: Wonder if they make an asbestos covered model for Arizona > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:59 AM PST US From: Flysrv10 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag They offered one of the first models to me. I chickened out since I travel long distances, mostly on the weekends, and did not want to be stranded. I will be talking to them again at sun/fun. One RV 10 has the product but I have not been able to connect. Do not archive. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:06 AM, whodja wrote: > > > I'm also interested to know. Has anyone used the Sure Fly electronic > Ignition? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460238#460238 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:39 AM PST US From: Shannon Hicks Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT P-860-3 Update Complete I had both SB 27 and 31 performed and was only charged for shipping. Shannon On Saturday, September 3, 2016, Craig Rufi wrote: > Was there a charge for the service?? > Thanks > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Terry Moushon > wrote: > >> > >> >> MT P-860-3 S/N 13G124G. 46.9 hours. >> Sent to MT USA. S/N updated to 13G124H. Got back all safety wired up. >> Installed and flew. Full throttle was 2700 dead on. All clocking was as I >> sent it. Flew for an hour without issue. >> >> They sent me my governor, new gasket and document for my log book. >> >> Terry >> >> >> >> =================================== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ >> Navigator?RV10-List >> =================================== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> =================================== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> =================================== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> =================================== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Thank You, > > Craig Rufi > Email craigr60@gmail.com > > Cell 805 402-6480 > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:01 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: RV10-List: surefly electronic mag Go to http://www.surefly.aero/home.html. They are the same folks that brought you SkyTec starters and PlanePower. Linn ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:12 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag From: "whodja" I spoke with them at Oshkosh this year and learned enough to peak my interest. They recommend 1 and a mag. I discussed the advantages of this but I wanted to hear from others that have taken the plunge. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460243#460243 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:32 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: 6 Cylinder P Mag From: "Lenny Iszak" SureFly recently published the advance curve for their ignition (it's on the front page of their website) and it seems a bit more aggressive than other popular electronic ignitions. The bummer is that the curve is not changeable. It sure seems like a quick and easy mag replacement since it connects right up to the Slick harness like a mag. I have a Lightspeed and been thinking that it would be nice to get rid of my mag, but if I get stuck somewhere I'd rather have a broken magneto that almost any shop can fix or at least sell me parts for it, than be grounded until i receive a replacement for the SureFly. Then again, the SureFly pops right out and I can borrow a mag and get going. I'll just stick to my current setup for now. Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460245#460245 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:41 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. Tim ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:44 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. Tim > On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? 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TN is a long way south.. > On Sep 4, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. > Tim > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:46:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan From: Miller John Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. > On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. > Tim > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan From: Linn Walters Once you get the nut off you can use a scissors jack and a piece of pipe (I"???) to lift the mains to get the wheel off the axle and then let down on a couple of 2X4s while you work on the wheel. I'm not sure it's practical to carry the scissors jack and pipe while on a trip ..... I'm not there yet. The little yellow air pump from Harbor Freight doesn't weigh much. I'm all for prevention when it comes to the wheels/tires, but things do go wrong in a hurry. Proper assembly of the wheel/tube/tire will go a long way to prevent a flat. Linn On 9/4/2016 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: > > Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. > > Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >> Tim >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:50 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Wish I were nearby, as I have used spare tubes of both sizes and bottle jack.. You didn't say, so I assume you need the 600X15X6, rather than the nose tire. I thought you had 2 flying RV's and a second pilot..... -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? > They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. > Tim > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:48 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke on spare tools. ;) I'll be better prepared next time. The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... Good thing is a long weekend. Tim > On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: > > > Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. > > Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >> Tim >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>> Tim > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:53 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan ;) say both pilots are here: would love to have had one at home... > On Sep 4, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Wish I were nearby, as I have used spare tubes of both sizes and bottle j ack.. You didn't say, so I assume you need the 600X15X6, rather than the nos e tire. I thought you had 2 flying RV's and a second pilot..... > > -sent from the I-chip implanted in my forearm > >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >> Tim >> >> >> ========================= >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV10-List >> ========================= >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========================= >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========================= >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========================= > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:52 PM PST US From: Ed Kranz Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Tim, Next time try to schedule your AOG problems when I don't have my plane torn apart for annual! Now just don't lose your key! Ed On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also > had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the > lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely > not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will > from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying > to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash > outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to > but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and > probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use > Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottl e > jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as > well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for m y > RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to > keep in that plane. A guy can go broke on! > spare tools. ;) > I'll be better prepared next time. > > The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Saul t > Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jac k, > bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. To ok > me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. > I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... > Good thing is a long weekend. > Tim > > > On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: > > > > > > Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) > and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. > > > > Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.h ope you > get back ok. Sorry I couldn=99t lend a hand from here. > > > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> > >> > >> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. > Wish they came by RV. > >> Tim > >> > >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie > MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. > >>> Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:23 PM PST US From: John Lark Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Tim, I'm 1.5 hrs at most from the Sault, here in Southern Ont. Unfortunately I had left rotator cuff surgery a week ago so I'm grounded for a few weeks, otherwise I could have been up there quickly. Good luck. Rick Southampton, Ont Sent from my iPad > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke on! > spare tools. ;) > I'll be better prepared next time. > > The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. > I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... > Good thing is a long weekend. > Tim > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: >> >> >> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. >> >> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >>> Tim >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>>> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:07 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan In a pinch you could use a 600x6 tube to get you home. I have also been stuck before. A friend & I squatted the wing enough to get the tire off & then set the axle on some wood blocks while we fixed the tire. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2016, at 7:03 PM, John Lark wrote: > > > Tim, I'm 1.5 hrs at most from the Sault, here in Southern Ont. Unfortunately I had left rotator cuff surgery a week ago so I'm grounded for a few weeks, otherwise I could have been up there quickly. > Good luck. > Rick > Southampton, Ont > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke ! > on! >> spare tools. ;) >> I'll be better prepared next time. >> >> The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. >> I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... >> Good thing is a long weekend. >> Tim >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: >>> >>> >>> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. >>> >>> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >>>> Tim >>>> >>>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>>>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan From: Gary Specketer A bicycle tube repair kit in your tool box will save lots of frustration Gary Specketer > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke on! > spare tools. ;) > I'll be better prepared next time. > > The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. > I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... > Good thing is a long weekend. > Tim > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: >> >> >> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. >> >> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >>> Tim >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>>> Tim > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:50 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Now that part I actually HAVE in both planes! :) Too bad this whole thing happened up here in the U.P. Of Michigan. It would be more convenient if it was in the Bahamas... Tim > On Sep 4, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Gary Specketer wrote: > > > A bicycle tube repair kit in your tool box will save lots of frustration > > Gary Specketer > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke ! > on! >> spare tools. ;) >> I'll be better prepared next time. >> >> The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. >> I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... >> Good thing is a long weekend. >> Tim >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: >>> >>> >>> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. >>> >>> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >>>> Tim >>>> >>>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>>>> Tim > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan From: Tim Lewis Sorry you got stuck, Tim. That's no fun. Can you share more detail on the 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea? Thanks, Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) A&P RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold RV-10 N31TD -- 740 hrs Tim Olson wrote on 9/4/2016 6:14 PM: > > Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke on! > spare tools. ;) > I'll be better prepared next time. > > The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. > I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... > Good thing is a long weekend. > Tim > >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: >> >> >> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. >> >> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here. >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they came by RV. >>> Tim >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>>> Tim >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:47 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan Sorry about that...that came from an Aussie RV10 builder. Here is the VAF link: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=1077119&postcount=6 Pretty cheap and simple. Worth adding to the kit. I guess there are still a ny number of things that can make a guy stuck, but just having the right com bination of items along can help make things better. In this case, had I ha d a new tube, I probably would have figured something out. But I was too du mb to carry a spare tube. This will be remedied Tuesday. I've now had 3 tu be failures in the past maybe 2 years. 1 was my fault. The tube that went b ad today though is from the same purchase date as the first one that went ba d, so I'm questioning the tube. I always install then wrinkle free with ple nty of talc. I can't wait to see what the leak looks like tomorrow. Tim > On Sep 4, 2016, at 10:20 PM, Tim Lewis wrote: > > > Sorry you got stuck, Tim. That's no fun. > > Can you share more detail on the 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > -- > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > A&P > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > RV-10 N31TD -- 740 hrs > > Tim Olson wrote on 9/4/2016 6:14 PM: >> >> Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also h ad a pinhole in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the les son well enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not f ind a 15-6.00/6 tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from no w on. I had it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recove r from a low cash month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I h ave never had a problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, si nce it fits the RV14 as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle c lamp idea and carry one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratch eting screw bit wrench to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one t o the RV10 kit. Bought one today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke ! > on! >> spare tools. ;) >> I'll be better prepared next time. >> >> The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Saul t Ste. Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack , bead breaker, used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Too k me 2 hours to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying. >> I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3... >> Good thing is a long weekend. >> Tim >> >>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John wrote: >>> >>> >>> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) an d an adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug. >>> >>> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.ho pe you get back ok. Sorry I couldn=99t lend a hand from here. >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wis h they came by RV. >>>> Tim >>>> >>>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie M I? They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge. >>>>> Tim > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.