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1. 08:29 AM - spare parts box (David)
2. 09:54 AM - more spare parts (David)
3. 10:38 AM - Re: AOG in Michigan (Albert)
4. 02:55 PM - Re: spare parts box (Tim Olson)
5. 05:21 PM - Re: spare parts box (Linn Walters)
6. 06:40 PM - Re: spare parts box (William Greenley)
7. 06:40 PM - Re: spare parts box (Metrocast)
8. 07:45 PM - Re: spare parts box (Danny Riggs)
9. 08:25 PM - Re: spare parts box (Tim Olson)
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As my friends have joked, I carry a "machine shop" in the baggage area; one
item is a small (less than ten pounds) box of spare parts that include a
spare tube for each size of wheel, several extra circuit breakers, brake
pads on shoes, alternator diodes, fuel and oil transducers, etc. Remember
you are always your own mechanic; carry some tools, spare parts and extra
fasteners. Also in this case, if it is truly a pinhole, it may have been
possible to air the tire and check time to deflate. Then you know how much
time in the air you have to land at a more suitable maintenance location.
N46007
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| Subject: | more spare parts |
Also in the spare parts are an O ring kit for brakes and prop, extra fuel
drain for leaking tank drain and several ready to go master cylinders for
the brakes and a small quantity of 5606 and the means to fill.
You as manufacturer are entitled to state an MEL for the aircraft in order
to have aboard items not perhaps allowed separately in the hangar and to
specifically state the aircraft requirements for flight: for example
operational brakes are an item required for safety of flight or at least a
single operational EFIS or at least a single operational battery. Although
the MEL normally applies to the large manufacturers to ensure enough
equipment is operatonal to safely fly the aircraft, the MEL can be used to
document the requirements when multiple pilots operate your aircraft.
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When my main tire went flat, the wheel pant was so close to the ground that I couldn't
get a screwdriver on the bottom flat head screw so I replaced it with
the NAS style that has a hex head so that a flat wrench could remove it. Also
found that where no bottle jack was available, one person sitting on the opposite
wing and another lifting the other wing made it possible to get the wheel
off to change the tube. I carry a few tools, try to get as many universal type
as possible, but it seems like you are always lacking something.
Albert Gardner
RV-10 N991RV
Yuma, AZ
PS: I had to change a tube in Needles, CA on a HOT summer day. Now I have a piece
of carpet in the baggage area so I don't have to lay on the hot fiery ramp
ever again.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: AOG in Michigan
Thanks all. I think it's just a bad tube. The mate for this tube also had a pinhole
in it a while back and had me stranded. I didn't learn the lesson well
enough I guess. Let me just tell you, you will almost surely not find a 15-6.00/6
tube on hand anywhere so do travel with one. I will from now on. I had
it on my list to order a spare next week. Was trying to recover from a low cash
month. Turns out waiting caused a bigger cash outlay. I have never had a
problem with a nose tube and don't expect to but I will from now on carry a spare
tube for the mains with me and probably a nose too, since it fits the RV14
as well. I will also use Ashley Millers 1-1/8" saddle clamp idea and carry
one to use with a bottle jack. And I have added a ratcheting screw bit wrench
to my tool list as well for those lower wheel fairing screws. Sadly I just bought
one for my RV14 tool kit but never added one to the RV10 kit. Bought one
today to keep in that plane. A guy can go broke on!
spare tools. ;)
I'll be better prepared next time.
The result on this trip? My parents are taking a sudden vacation to Sault Ste.
Marie. I booked them a hotel room and they are bringing my wing jack, bead breaker,
used serviceable tube, and a few tools. 8+ hour drive. Took me 2 hours
to fly here....Actually Andrea did the flying.
I guess my 2 day weekend will take 3...
Good thing is a long weekend.
Tim
> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
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> Bummer. I carry spare tubes for main and nose (used but serviceable) and an
adapter for a bottle jack to fit under the tie-down lug.
>
> Probably too big a spare parts kit, but heck, you never know.hope you get back
ok. Sorry I couldnt lend a hand from here.
>
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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>> Got family driving stuff up now. 8+ hour drive or 2 hr RV flight. Wish they
came by RV.
>> Tim
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>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
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>>> Any RV folks have a spare tube and time to fly it to Sault Ste. Marie MI?
They don't even have bottle jacks here either so it's a challenge.
>>> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: spare parts box |
The brakes on shoes aren't a bad idea. Finding those in the field
would be tough. I do carry some fuses as required, but breakers I
don't. I think by swapping less critical stuff around I could
probably juggle breakers OK and not worry about them.
I do carry alternator diodes, mag points, and a mag brush if that's
what it's called, and condenser. I don't have fuel and oil transducers
though.
I should probably add the o-ring kit for the brakes and prop. I do
have a few spare prop o-rings but haven't added them to my travel
kit yet. Good idea. The brake o-rings I should definitely do
too. They would be light.
For the leaking tank drain I'd suggest a 1/8" NPT plug instead.
If it's gonna leak, just yank the sucker out and plug it to get
home.
So all good ideas there.
I swapped out the tire and tube today...went to a used tire and tube
from my last tire change...still had a bunch of life left on it anyway.
There was no major damage to the tube. I haven't yet looked for the
leak but it held a couple PSI with no issue overnight, so it's almost
definitely a pinhole leak like the other tube I bought at the same
time suffered. Maybe it was a bad run of tubes. I could have easily
patched that leak with the patch kit that I carry. The only
tough part was being way up in the boonies where nobody had any
real tools or jacks. If I could have located even one RV builder
up there, I probably would have been fine. As it was, i'd have had an
easier time if I was stuck in the bahamas. Once I got my tools there
and started today though, it was quick work and I was ready to
go. So my biggest lesson learned on this one is to buy one of those
1-1/8" saddle clamps so I can jack the thing up easy, and be
prepared for that. I may also try to see if I can come up with some
sort of lever lifter that I can weld up. Then if I am flying to
remote places I'll throw it in...not for normal trips. I can't
take the kitchen sink on every trip. But, I can prepare better
when I know I'm going to nowheresville.
Tim
On 9/5/2016 10:00 AM, David wrote:
> As my friends have joked, I carry a machine shop in the baggage area;
> one item is a small (less than ten pounds) box of spare parts that
> include a spare tube for each size of wheel, several extra circuit
> breakers, brake pads on shoes, alternator diodes, fuel and oil
> transducers, etc. Remember you are always your own mechanic; carry some
> tools, spare parts and extra fasteners. Also in this case, if it is
> truly a pinhole, it may have been possible to air the tire and check
> time to deflate. Then you know how much time in the air you have to land
> at a more suitable maintenance location.
>
>
> N46007
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spare parts box |
Here's a picture of what I've done to remove the wheels ......
The pipe doesn't have to be that long ..... it just needs to be long
enough to pull the wheel off the axle. Almost every car now comes with
scissors jacks to borrow so you don't have to lug one around.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: spare parts box |
I wish that were true, but as I have been car shopping, I have found many
cars no longer have a spare, just a pressure can that sprays goop in the
tire and inflates it.
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Here's a picture of what I've done to remove the wheels ......
>
>
> The pipe doesn't have to be that long ..... it just needs to be long
> enough to pull the wheel off the axle. Almost every car now comes with
> scissors jacks to borrow so you don't have to lug one around.
> Linn
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spare parts box |
Linen,
What size is the pipe?
Is it threaded?
Very practical
Alan
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> On Sep 5, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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> Here's a picture of what I've done to remove the wheels ......
>
> <WHEEL JACK 02.JPG>
> The pipe doesn't have to be that long ..... it just needs to be long enough to
pull the wheel off the axle. Almost every car now comes with scissors jacks
to borrow so you don't have to lug one around.
> Linn
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spare parts box |
I hate those goop cans. Never really had one work well when you really need
ed it.
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 5, 2016, at 9:09 PM, William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com<mailto:wg
reenley@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wish that were true, but as I have been car shopping, I have found many c
ars no longer have a spare, just a pressure can that sprays goop in the tir
e and inflates it.
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com<mailto:
flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>> wrote:
Here's a picture of what I've done to remove the wheels ......
<WHEEL JACK 02.JPG>
The pipe doesn't have to be that long ..... it just needs to be long enough
to pull the wheel off the axle. Almost every car now comes with scissors
jacks to borrow so you don't have to lug one around.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: spare parts box |
I was tempted to try that this weekend. One of the big things that stopped m
e was the fact that then I would not know the cause of the failure or how ba
d it was. In my case it may have worked. Also, I didn't have the ability t
o roll the tire to distribute it easily...unless i taxied the plane around f
or a while. The tube held air for about 5-10 minutes before deflating. I j
ust figure the real prudent thing to do is never depart with a known issue.
If you fix it or even just do a field fix that you know will work, you can l
eave feeling much better about it.
Tim
> On Sep 5, 2016, at 8:21 PM, William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I wish that were true, but as I have been car shopping, I have found many c
ars no longer have a spare, just a pressure can that sprays goop in the tire
and inflates it.
>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrot
e:
>> Here's a picture of what I've done to remove the wheels ......
>>
>> <WHEEL JACK 02.JPG>
>> The pipe doesn't have to be that long ..... it just needs to be long enou
gh to pull the wheel off the axle. Almost every car now comes with scissors
jacks to borrow so you don't have to lug one around.
>> Linn
>
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