---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/09/16: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:27 PM - What flap setting do you use for takeoff (Alan Mekler MD) 2. 04:55 PM - Re: What flap setting do you use for takeoff (Marcus Cooper) 3. 05:05 PM - Re: What flap setting do you use for takeoff (Carl Froehlich) 4. 05:35 PM - Re: What flap setting do you use for takeoff (David Maib) 5. 06:34 PM - Re: What flap setting do you use for takeoff (Bill Watson) 6. 07:33 PM - Re: What flap setting do you use for takeoff (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:18 PM PST US From: Alan Mekler MD Subject: RV10-List: What flap setting do you use for takeoff I have been using no flaps for my 5000 ft home runway and partial flaps for short runways. What do other people use? Alan N668G 400 hrs ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: What flap setting do you use for takeoff From: Marcus Cooper I use partial flaps for all takeoffs, about 20%. Most times Im sure its not necessary, but keeping as many things the same seems like a good habit and I cant think of a reason not to use them. Marcus 800 hrs On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: I have been using no flaps for my 5000 ft home runway and partial flaps for short runways. What do other people use? Alan N668G 400 hrs ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:34 PM PST US From: Carl Froehlich Subject: Re: RV10-List: What flap setting do you use for takeoff Same as you. Carl > On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > > > I have been using no flaps for my 5000 ft home runway and partial flaps for short runways. What do other people use? > Alan > N668G > 400 hrs > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:07 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: What flap setting do you use for takeoff Same as you. Alex DeDominices demonstrated to me that flaps fully retracted resulted in a shorter takeoff,during transition training. I tried a few different combinations and techniques during phase 1 and came to the same conclusion. I do use partial flaps on rough/sod runways just to get the load off the gear asap. David Maib > On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > > > I have been using no flaps for my 5000 ft home runway and partial flaps for short runways. What do other people use? > Alan > N668G > 400 hrs > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: What flap setting do you use for takeoff From: Bill Watson Okay, that's what I do; fully retracted (no reflex) for normal takeoffs, partial flaps on rough/sod runways like my home strip. So roughly half my takeoffs are with partial. But I can't make sense out of retracted flaps resulting in a shorter takeoff. Seems possible yet unlikely but I have nothing to back that up. Comments? Technique? Bill "knowing I should just go out and get some numbers" Watson On 12/9/2016 8:34 PM, David Maib wrote: > > Same as you. Alex DeDominices demonstrated to me that flaps fully retracted resulted in a shorter takeoff,during transition training. I tried a few different combinations and techniques during phase 1 and came to the same conclusion. I do use partial flaps on rough/sod runways just to get the load off the gear asap. > > David Maib > > >> On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: >> >> >> I have been using no flaps for my 5000 ft home runway and partial flaps for short runways. What do other people use? >> Alan >> N668G >> 400 hrs >> >> >> > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:05 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: What flap setting do you use for takeoff I use 15 degrees for most takeoffs, unless I have a passenger that isn't ready for the acceleration and climb rate. Definitely shorter ground run than with 0 degrees. I haven't focused on actual numbers, suppose I could. More lift, lower lift-off speed are good for less wear and tear on landing gear. More altitude, quicker minimizes time in danger zone of low speed and altitude. -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > Okay, that's what I do; fully retracted (no reflex) for normal takeoffs, > partial flaps on rough/sod runways like my home strip. So roughly half my > takeoffs are with partial. > > But I can't make sense out of retracted flaps resulting in a shorter > takeoff. Seems possible yet unlikely but I have nothing to back that up. > Comments? Technique? > > Bill "knowing I should just go out and get some numbers" Watson > > On 12/9/2016 8:34 PM, David Maib wrote: > >> >> Same as you. Alex DeDominices demonstrated to me that flaps fully >> retracted resulted in a shorter takeoff,during transition training. I tried >> a few different combinations and techniques during phase 1 and came to the >> same conclusion. I do use partial flaps on rough/sod runways just to get >> the load off the gear asap. >> >> David Maib >> >> >> On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have been using no flaps for my 5000 ft home runway and partial flaps >>> for short runways. What do other people use? >>> Alan >>> N668G >>> 400 hrs >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.