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1. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: transition (Tim Olson)
2. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: transition (Adam Bezanson)
3. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: transition (Bob Condrey)
4. 11:00 AM - Re: Re: transition (Berck E. Nash)
5. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: transition (David Maib)
6. 11:15 AM - Re: Re: transition (Ed Kranz)
7. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: transition (Jesse Saint)
8. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: transition (Tim Olson)
9. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: transition (John Cox)
10. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: transition (Marcus Cooper)
11. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: transition (Gary Specketer)
12. 06:37 PM - Re: transition (Bob Turner)
13. 09:08 PM - Re: transition (Bob Turner)
14. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: transition (Werner Schneider)
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Bob,
Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always wanted to
Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that significantly.
The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
Made it a worthwhile goal.
So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
On 11/21/16.
I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to endorse my
daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I did my commercial).
She headed over
To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private. Makes
a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida for weather
more conducive to finishing the CFI.
Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I was
asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to diagram
and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to illustrate
the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it all works and
moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a twin. It was a
bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and within an hour I had it
drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on 3.5 hours sleep with regs and
crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got signed off for the re-training
and re-applied for the CFI.
Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in case.
(Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a paper CFI
certificate in my folder.
It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth while! Thanks
again because you should know that the email you sent....the one that I'm
replying to, played a role in this.
Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the left seat.
And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day weekend to solo
his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she helped build...N14YT.
Damn...teared up writing that.
Tim Olson
CFI ASEL
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Tim,
> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of it,
but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be that great.
> Bob
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
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Congrats, Tim!
Sounds like a lot of stuff to accomplish in such a short time.
Well done!
I bet the feeling you'll have when you're able to sign her off for her solo
and checkride will be even more fulfilling.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always
> wanted to
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that
> significantly.
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> On 11/21/16.
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to
> endorse my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I
> did my commercial). She headed over
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private.
> Makes a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida
> for weather more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I
> was asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to
> diagram and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to
> illustrate the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it
> all works and moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a
> twin. It was a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and
> within an hour I had it drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on
> 3.5 hours sleep with regs and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got
> signed off for the re-training and re-applied for the CFI.
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in
> case. (Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a
> paper CFI certificate in my folder.
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth
> while! Thanks again because you should know that the email you sent....the
> one that I'm replying to, played a role in this.
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the
> left seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day
> weekend to solo his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she
> helped build...N14YT. Damn...teared up writing that.
>
> Tim Olson
> CFI ASEL
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> > Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of
> it, but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be
> that great.
> > Bob
> >
> > --------
> > Bob Turner
> > RV-10 QB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Congratulations Tim!!!
Bob
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:23 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
>
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
>
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always
> wanted to
>
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
>
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that
> significantly.
>
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
>
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
>
> On 11/21/16.
>
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
>
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to
> endorse my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I
> did my commercial). She headed over
>
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private.
> Makes a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida
> for weather more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I
> was asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to
> diagram and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to
> illustrate the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it
> all works and moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a
> twin. It was a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and
> within an hour I had it drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on
> 3.5 hours sleep with regs and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got
> signed off for the re-training and re-applied for the CFI.
>
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in
> case. (Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a
> paper CFI certificate in my folder.
>
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth
> while! Thanks again because you should know that the email you sent....the
> one that I'm replying to, played a role in this.
>
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the
> left seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day
> weekend to solo his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she
> helped build...N14YT. Damn...teared up writing that.
>
>
> Tim Olson
>
> CFI ASEL
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> >
>
>
> >
>
> > Tim,
>
> > Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of
> it, but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be
> that great.
>
> > Bob
>
> >
>
> > --------
>
> > Bob Turner
>
> > RV-10 QB
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Read this topic online here:
>
> >
>
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
>
> >
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the
> left seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day
> weekend to solo his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she
> helped build...N14YT. Damn...teared up writing that.
Congratulations! That's excellent.
The CFI can be brutal. First time pass rate nationwide is very, very low.
I flunked my CFI ride in about 3 minutes the first time. We started in the
pattern, and the first landing requested: "Demonstrate a power-off 180
approach landing." Sure, no problem. I demonstrated it, aiming for the
1,000 foot markers. I was 50 feet short. PTS is +200/-0. And that was
that. "You've failed to complete a task within the required standards,
would you like to continue?" Nope. I pulled the power, taxiied in and
collected my pink slip.
As you go through this, I'd love to see you blog tips for teaching
family/friends. I've taught a lot of folks to fly, but I know that
teaching family can be tough.
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Congrats Tim! You won't regret getting that CFI! CFII next?
David Maib
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always wanted
to
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that significantly.
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> On 11/21/16.
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to endorse
my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I did my commercial).
She headed over
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private. Makes
a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida for weather
more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I was
asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to diagram
and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to illustrate
the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it all works and
moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a twin. It was
a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and within an hour I had it
drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on 3.5 hours sleep with regs
and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got signed off for the re-training
and re-applied for the CFI.
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in case.
(Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a paper
CFI certificate in my folder.
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth while! Thanks
again because you should know that the email you sent....the one that I'm
replying to, played a role in this.
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the left
seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day weekend to solo
his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she helped build...N14YT.
Damn...teared up writing that.
>
> Tim Olson
> CFI ASEL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of it,
but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be that great.
>> Bob
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Congrats Tim!!!
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:01 PM, David Maib <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
>
> Congrats Tim! You won't regret getting that CFI! CFII next?
>
> David Maib
>
>
> > On Jan 11, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> > Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> > Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always
> wanted to
> > Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> > RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that
> significantly.
> > The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> > Made it a worthwhile goal.
> >
> > So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> > On 11/21/16.
> >
> > I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> > FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
> >
> > I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to
> endorse my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I
> did my commercial). She headed over
> > To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private.
> Makes a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
> >
> > I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida
> for weather more conducive to finishing the CFI.
> >
> > Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because
> I was asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but
> to diagram and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough
> to illustrate the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it
> all works and moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a
> twin. It was a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and
> within an hour I had it drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on
> 3.5 hours sleep with regs and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got
> signed off for the re-training and re-applied for the CFI.
> >
> > Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in
> case. (Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
> >
> > Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
> >
> > I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a
> paper CFI certificate in my folder.
> >
> > It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth
> while! Thanks again because you should know that the email you sent....the
> one that I'm replying to, played a role in this.
> >
> > Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the
> left seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day
> weekend to solo his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she
> helped build...N14YT. Damn...teared up writing that.
> >
> > Tim Olson
> > CFI ASEL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Tim,
> >> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some
> of it, but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not
> be that great.
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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That's awesome, Tim! That just got me rethinking of doing that. I had put the idea
away, but now I might just go ahead with it. I've got a bunch of people to
solo as they come of age. :-)
First training flight up to X35 sounds like a good idea to me if you are still
in FL.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always wanted
to
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that significantly.
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> On 11/21/16.
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to endorse
my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I did my commercial).
She headed over
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private. Makes
a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida for weather
more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I was
asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to diagram
and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to illustrate
the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it all works and
moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a twin. It was
a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and within an hour I had it
drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on 3.5 hours sleep with regs
and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got signed off for the re-training
and re-applied for the CFI.
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in case.
(Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a paper
CFI certificate in my folder.
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth while! Thanks
again because you should know that the email you sent....the one that I'm
replying to, played a role in this.
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the left
seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day weekend to solo
his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she helped build...N14YT.
Damn...teared up writing that.
>
> Tim Olson
> CFI ASEL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of it,
but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be that great.
>> Bob
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for all of the replies guys. Don't feel like you have to reply
to the thread just to say thanks. I know, it's a given. I hate to
clutter your inboxes with my drivel. :)
This one was too juicy to not reply to though.....the failure rate.
After failing, I started googling, I guess the fail rate down here
is something like 40-80%, and I've read that some FSDO areas are even
higher. My examiner actually failed his way back when, too.
So it's pretty common, but pretty heartbreaking too. I actually was
OK with it because my daughter was very frustrated with her 92%
written, and seeing me fail something is good...it shows her that
you don't always have to hit the top mark. I have a bit of a problem
with that in my family, as the grades are consistent A's...and always
have been, with them. And I think it's time that they begin to
accept that they will not always perform to that level. I certainly
don't expect that of myself. So for that, I'm glad it happened the
way it did.
I really can't believe how much some of these professional CFI's have
to know and keep track of. I thought it was impossible to be as
good on the stick AND the books, and know that much, but one of
my 2 CFI's that signed me off proved me wrong. He could fly
5X more accurately and consistently than me. He could also
repeat back systems and regs 10x better. So apparently if you
do it for 5000 hours (he's way over that), you can get pretty
smart. I'm not there yet. ;)
I don't have any idea what path I'll take. I'm sure some day I'm
going to do CFI-I. I actually think I'd like to finish that
within about 1.5 years so that I can get my daughter going
on Instrument training.
There's a small chance maybe that I'll get into
transition training on the RV-10/14 just for fun. I don't
know the costs for that sort of thing, nor the effort it would take.
Whatever it is, I can't do it if it costs ME money...I'm way past
broke right now.
I may not use the CFI a ton, but I would eventually forsee doing it
as a retirement gig. Also, one of our local instructors is a
snowbird who travels south every winter...so since I really don't
care to teach when the kids are out for the summer, maybe I can
work opposite him and do things in the winter. I'm sure I'll
take on people here and there, and once the kids are out of the
house (one is out this coming fall...sheesh, where did the time go?)
I will take the time to teach quite a bit.
David, if you get time, shoot me an email offline on how tough it is
to get your LODA to do that transition training. I'm pretty tired
today so it's not yet on my priority list, but I definitely
would like to be beneficial to the RV community.
And for those who like write-ups, yes, I'm sure I'll be filling my
website (probably MyRV14.com, but not sure) with stuff about
teaching my girl. Right now that's about the biggest thing
this old guy has on his mind. :)
Thanks everyone. Again though, don't feel like you have to
congratulate me. I'm not fishing for it. I just really wanted
to thank Bob. :) I'm also thrilled to hear from other people
who did the CFI like Berck...either offline or however you want.
I like reading the stories you all have as well.
OH, and before I forget to tell you this:
For the commercial... you have to have 10 hours DUAL in a retract.
I had plenty of retract time, but only 9.3 dual. So I did my first
commercial lesson in an Arrow III for 1.8 hours. It was disgusting.
After flying RV's for over 1300 hours, it really just plain sucked.
Horribly organized panel, and handles like a moving truck. If you
go for the commercial, and don't have dual retract time, you're going
to have to suck it up. But, once I saw how much nicer it was to
fly the RV-10, I did the rest of my practice (only took like 4 more
hours or so) in the RV-10, and then went for my checkride...using
the RV-10. I couldn't believe my 80-something year old examiner
was even willing to. But that was nice. Then, you do have to
fly a retract for them, so I rented their 172RG and went out for
a couple maneuvers and procedures and a landing and that was that.
For the CFI, you can't split it up like that. You have to do the
whole ride in a retract. That was the worst thing about the
flying portion of this. Worse than learning to fly Right seat.
Heck, I'm pretty good at right seat now. :) But flying the
Arrow II down here was again, not nearly as nice as an RV-10.
Yes, you can get it to be halfway comfortable, but it was probably
a big hinderance for me to have been used to GOOD airplanes.
So, if you think that some day you may want to do your CFI, or
your commercial for that matter, maybe do this to do yourself a
favor. When it's time for your next BFR, do it in a retract.
Get a complex endorsement and log some hours. They won't hurt
you when you want a rating. I may even take my daughter
out and rent the arrow II, just to show her how miserable it is,
but get her complex signed off. It's another open door
once you do.
For that matter, the Dual in the piper Navajo that I did in
Hawaii....sightseeing with Multi-instruction on it, also
added to my time required for dual-complex, for commercial.
So every airplane you fly can help.
Tim
On 1/11/2017 1:00 PM, Berck E. Nash wrote:
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in
> the left seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his
> Memorial Day weekend to solo his student on her 16th birthday....in
> an airplane that she helped build...N14YT. Damn...teared up writing
> that.
>
>
> Congratulations! That's excellent.
>
> The CFI can be brutal. First time pass rate nationwide is very, very
> low. I flunked my CFI ride in about 3 minutes the first time. We
> started in the pattern, and the first landing requested: "Demonstrate a
> power-off 180 approach landing." Sure, no problem. I demonstrated it,
> aiming for the 1,000 foot markers. I was 50 feet short. PTS is
> +200/-0. And that was that. "You've failed to complete a task within
> the required standards, would you like to continue?" Nope. I pulled
> the power, taxiied in and collected my pink slip.
>
> As you go through this, I'd love to see you blog tips for teaching
> family/friends. I've taught a lot of folks to fly, but I know that
> teaching family can be tough.
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Congrats Tim!
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always
> wanted to
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that
> significantly.
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> On 11/21/16.
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to
> endorse my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I
> did my commercial). She headed over
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private.
> Makes a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida
> for weather more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I
> was asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to
> diagram and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to
> illustrate the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it
> all works and moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a
> twin. It was a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and
> within an hour I had it drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on
> 3.5 hours sleep with regs and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got
> signed off for the re-training and re-applied for the CFI.
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in
> case. (Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a
> paper CFI certificate in my folder.
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth
> while! Thanks again because you should know that the email you sent....the
> one that I'm replying to, played a role in this.
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the
> left seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day
> weekend to solo his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she
> helped build...N14YT. Damn...teared up writing that.
>
> Tim Olson
> CFI ASEL
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> > Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of
> it, but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be
> that great.
> > Bob
> >
> > --------
> > Bob Turner
> > RV-10 QB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Congrats Tim, well done!
Marcus
On Jan 11, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
do not archive
Bob,
Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always wanted to
Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that significantly.
The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
Made it a worthwhile goal.
So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
On 11/21/16.
I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to endorse my
daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I did my commercial).
She headed over
To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private. Makes
a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida for weather
more conducive to finishing the CFI.
Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I was
asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to diagram
and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to illustrate
the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it all works and
moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a twin. It was a
bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and within an hour I had it
drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on 3.5 hours sleep with regs and
crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got signed off for the re-training
and re-applied for the CFI.
Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in case.
(Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a paper CFI
certificate in my folder.
It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth while! Thanks
again because you should know that the email you sent....the one that I'm
replying to, played a role in this.
Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the left seat.
And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day weekend to solo
his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she helped build...N14YT.
Damn...teared up writing that.
Tim Olson
CFI ASEL
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Tim,
> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of it,
but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be that great.
> Bob
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Congrats
Gary
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always wanted
to
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that significantly.
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> On 11/21/16.
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to endorse
my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I did my commercial).
She headed over
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private. Makes
a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida for weather
more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I was
asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to diagram
and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to illustrate
the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it all works and
moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a twin. It was
a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and within an hour I had it
drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on 3.5 hours sleep with regs
and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got signed off for the re-training
and re-applied for the CFI.
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in case.
(Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a paper
CFI certificate in my folder.
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth while! Thanks
again because you should know that the email you sent....the one that I'm
replying to, played a role in this.
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the left
seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day weekend to solo
his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she helped build...N14YT.
Damn...teared up writing that.
>
> Tim Olson
> CFI ASEL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of it,
but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be that great.
>> Bob
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Congratulations Tim! And, thanks for the thanks.
Don't feel bad about needing two tries - it's very common. I also took two tries,
although I didn't fail anything. After I passed my 5 hour oral, another inspector
came in with the (rented, RG) aircraft logbooks. He couldn't find a sign
off for a particular AD, so he gave me a 'discontinuance', and a ferry permit,
and told me to reschedule the flight test.
The good news is that you can do the cfii in your RV. And it re-sets the two year
clock, so a year or year and a half is about right.
I'm pretty sure I have all my paperwork for the transition training LODA in a folder
on the home computer. Let me know if you'd like it and I'll email it. The
only issue with transition training is insurance. Your regular policy won't
cover it, and the cost of one that will is hard to justify. I currently have $1,000,000
CSL plus hull for under $2K, but they don't want the bother of adding
other named insureds, so I am currently not doing transition training.
Finally, as I'm sure you know, the trick you need to figure out for each plane
you instruct in, is how far wrong you can let a student get before you absolutely
have to intervene! It's actually pretty impressive what horrible configurations
you can recover a 152 from!
Good Luck,
Bob
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464999#464999
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One more thing: Have you thought about your medical? If you want to use your commercial
you'll need a second class. I have previously gotten a second class but
only every 2 years, so I had a 50-50 chance of having a valid second class
if a commercial opportunity came along. In 30 years it happened just once - I
was hired to ferry a 182 from CA to Wisconsin. Now, with medical reform and just
needing a physical every 4 years, I probably will let the class two be a thing
of the past.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465000#465000
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Congrat Tim!
Another great writeup for inspiring others!
Cheers Werner
On 11.01.2017 19:20, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Hey Bob, I just wanted to give you a big thanks on something.
> Both your encouragement, and the encouragement of the CFI at my local
> Airport who did my BFR were instrumental in swaying me. I had always wanted
to
> Do my commercial and CFI, but saw no purpose because we can't operate our
> RV's commercially. But the teaching my Daughter changed that significantly.
> The fact that it would be fun to be a CFI among other many good things,
> Made it a worthwhile goal.
>
> So, I set out in November to start and finish my commercial which I did
> On 11/21/16.
>
> I then dove right in to the CFI and by 11/26 and 12/6 I passed the
> FOI, FIA, and AGI for my Instructor course.
>
> I then headed to the FSDO and got my AGI which I immediately used to endorse
my daughters written prep. (She had studied for her private while I did my commercial).
She headed over
> To the testing facility (at 15 years old) and got a 92% on her private. Makes
a father proud that's for sure! So dad got to sign her off.
>
> I took a break for Christmas, but last week I came down here to Florida for weather
more conducive to finishing the CFI.
>
> Yesterday, I failed my CFI oral. I'll admit it. Failed. Why? Because I was
asked to not just describe how a constant speed propeller works, but to diagram
and draw the whole propeller and governor system I detail enough to illustrate
the functional parts of the governor and propeller and how it all works and
moves, and talk about the differences between a single and a twin. It was
a bit crushing...but I took my lumps and learned it and within an hour I had it
drawn twice. Not to mention I woke up at 3:30 on 3.5 hours sleep with regs
and crap on my mind, it was a stressful day. Got signed off for the re-training
and re-applied for the CFI.
>
> Today I woke up at 4, and decided I had probably re-learn my E6B just in case.
(Digitals are way cooler, but the E6B is like artwork.)
>
> Then I headed to the airport for my re-take.
>
> I'm sitting here now, ready for an evening of whiskey shots...holding a paper
CFI certificate in my folder.
>
> It was one of the harder things I've done, but today it feels worth while! Thanks
again because you should know that the email you sent....the one that I'm
replying to, played a role in this.
>
> Today I am a CFI. My next fight will NOT be without my daughter in the left
seat. And *I* will be the poor CFI who gives up his Memorial Day weekend to solo
his student on her 16th birthday....in an airplane that she helped build...N14YT.
Damn...teared up writing that.
>
> Tim Olson
> CFI ASEL
>
>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>> Ever consider getting your com/cfi? You'd have to rent an RG for some of it,
but, given your daughter needs 20 hrs dual, the net cost might not be that great.
>> Bob
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461500#461500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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