---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/24/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:28 AM - Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (whodja) 2. 04:35 AM - Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (Linn Walters) 3. 05:04 AM - Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (David Maib) 4. 05:52 AM - Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (Jesse Saint) 5. 06:01 AM - Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (Shannon Hicks) 6. 06:02 AM - Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (Rob Kermanj) 7. 06:12 AM - Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:50 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade From: "whodja" The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade From: Linn Walters From what I've read here, the 3-blade is not as efficient as the two blade. And there is the $10K. However, on the plus side it's damn sexy looking sitting on the ramp. I went with the two blade ...... hope to fly this fall. Linn On 1/24/2017 7:28 AM, whodja wrote: > > The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:56 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth! PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience. David Maib > On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM, whodja wrote: > > > The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:35 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade I agree. They both look just about the same at 200mph. Use the $10k for fuel so your plane doesn't sit. I've seen way too many planes that sit most of the year. I don't think the hangar cares whether your prop is sexy or not. Do yourself a favor and go 2-blade and make the cowl easier to take off too. Just my $.02! Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. 352-427-0285 jesse@saintaviation.com Sent from my iPad > On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:04 AM, David Maib wrote: > > > I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth! > PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience. > > David Maib > > >> On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM, whodja wrote: >> >> >> The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:44 AM PST US From: Shannon Hicks Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade I have the MT 3-blade prop and love how smooth the ride is, but would save the money and go 2-blade if I had to do it all over again. Plus, the lower cowl is a PIA to remove with the 3-blade prop. Shannon On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Jesse Saint wrote: > > I agree. They both look just about the same at 200mph. Use the $10k for > fuel so your plane doesn't sit. I've seen way too many planes that sit most > of the year. I don't think the hangar cares whether your prop is sexy or > not. Do yourself a favor and go 2-blade and make the cowl easier to take > off too. > > Just my $.02! > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > 352-427-0285 > jesse@saintaviation.com > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:04 AM, David Maib wrote: > > > > > > I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid > big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi > to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same > power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K > would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might > climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth! > > PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience. > > > > David Maib > > > > > >> On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM, whodja wrote: > >> > >> > >> The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade > but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between > these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:06 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Three blade good for climb. Two blade good for cruise. RV10 climbs just fine with two blade. Spend the $10k on gadgets. Do not archive. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:04 AM, David Maib wrote: > > > I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth! > PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience. > > David Maib > > >> On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM, whodja wrote: >> >> >> The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:52 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Are you saying Ivan had 8kts indicated or 8 kts true over your speed? Am I reading you correctly that Ivan has the 2 blade Hartzell, in comparison to your MT? I don't know anyone with the Hartzell carbon fiber 3 blade. Would be very interested in comparison between the Hartzell 3 blade and the MT. The MT is about $6-7K cheaper than the CF Hartzell, and I very much like the smoothness, as well as the lighter wt over the 2 blade aluminum. I have time in behind both the 2 blade Hartzell and more behind the MT. Nothing wrong with the 2 blade, but my CFO wanted 3 blade, so I went along. The price delta for the MT vs 2 blade aluminum isn't nearly as great as the delta for the composite Hartzell. Allegedly the composite props are less likely to cause internal engine damage if there is a prop strike, but I've not seen any evidence one way or the other. No question the 3 bladed props make it significantly more difficult to remove the lower cowl. -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:04 AM, David Maib wrote: > > I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid > big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi > to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same > power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K > would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might > climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth! > PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience. > > David Maib > > > > On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM, whodja wrote: > > > > > > The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade > but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between > these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465388#465388 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.