RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/10/17


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:41 AM - Re: A lot of advice and perhaps a little help (Patrick Pulis)
     2. 11:12 AM - Rv10 Fuselage Dolly (Terry Moushon)
     3. 07:13 PM - Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause (Phillip Perry)
     4. 08:03 PM - Re: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause (Danny Riggs)
     5. 08:04 PM - Re: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause (Danny Riggs)
     6. 10:01 PM - Re: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause (P Reid)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:41:41 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Subject: Re: A lot of advice and perhaps a little help
    Jeff My thoughts and prayers are with you my friend. God bless. Warm regards Patrick > On 9 Feb 2017, at 23:32, Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > Sad news Jeff. Possible physical problems that go unnoticed until too late scare the crap out of me. You hang in there ..... > > If I were in your shoes would add up the $$ I have invested in the project as a starting point. This is the actual value of your project. Now you can start adding some $$ for 'desireability'. If there were RV-10s for sale when I started my kit, I would have seriously thought about paying the price knowing what I know now. Somewhere between your actual value and what a comparable -10 is selling (not asking) for is a good asking price. Those 4,874 enjoyable hours spent so far will be a gift to the buyer and shouldn't be a factor in coming to a asking price. > Depending on your health (mental and physical) you might want to address the squawks yourself .... even up to painting a base color .... as this will add value far above actual cost of completion. Might be good therapy, I don't know. > Keep us posted ..... we do care. > Linn > > >> On 2/8/2017 11:43 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote: >> >> On November 30th I was entering the company IRA deposit... 5 pairs of numbers... something that should take me a couple of minutes at most. But, on that day, there seemed to be a strong glare in my office and I couldn't make out the numbers. I twisted the paper, moved it around in my field of vision... tried just one eye, then the other. 15 minutes later the work was done and whatever problem I was having with my vision seemed to have resolved itself. I went and got a big glass of water thinking that I might be dehydrated. >> >> The next day, I noticed a similar vision problem. It didn't last as long and I wasn't doing work that it interfered with... but it worried me a little. Later that afternoon I met with a customer in my office to discuss some new projects. He's a smart guy. He'd ask a question. I'd start in to the answer and before I could finish the sentence I could see that he was moving on to the next question... and I was having a progressively harder time actually finishing the sentences. Words were slightly out of order. I'd back up to get it right and the words kept coming out a little wrong. He didn't seem to notice. We finished our meeting and said our goodbyes. I immediately went to my office manager to tell her that something was wrong with me. She, with all the love and understanding of someone who has worked for me for almost 25 years said "well, don't tell me... tell you doctor... dork." >> >> So, the next morning I called my doctor on my way in to work. I pulled off to the side of the road as the nurse was getting the doctor to the phone. I explained to him what had happened the past couple of days. He said "I'd like you turn around and drive straight to the ER and get an MRI. This is the kind of stuff we don't mess with." So, that's what I did. >> >> By noon the MRI was complete and the results were back. I had two brain tumors. One rather small and one the size of a lemon. Something about the nature of the tumors indicated that they didn't start in the brain. So, a scan or two later it was determined that I have stage 4 lung cancer (never smoked). My GP came to the hospital and explained that this was the worst time of the week to discover something like this. We wanted to assemble the "A" team and the "A" team didn't work the weekends." So, I was released from the ER into the care of my wife with a few strong prescriptions and a few days to imagine all that might be before me. >> >> On Monday, as my GP was assembling his "A" team my parents were assembling theirs. Unbeknownst to me, good friends of theirs had just endowed the Chair of Oncology at The City of Hope. By Tuesday I was in the care of some of the very best doctors in the world. By the following Tuesday the large tumor was surgically removed and I was, somehow, still able to walk and talk... but not drive and certainly not fly. >> >> My prognosis, now, is "up in the air" so to speak. I've finished radiation therapy which finished off anything that might have remained of the large tumor and zapped the small one. I'm lucky, if you can call anything about this "lucky" to have certain biomarkers in my cancer that make it treatable with targeted therapy... which has the potential to make this a chronically managed disease as opposed to a death sentence. While targeted therapy drugs are a godsend... giving me a shot at watching my kids grow up... they are not allowed by the FAA. I'm going to have to sell my RV-10. That's where I need your advice and, perhaps a little help. >> >> N410CF has the following squawks. In my current condition I am unable to address most of them without help. That being said, what should I make sure is taken care of before putting the plane on the market? >> >> The plane is not painted >> >> It is out of annual (would love a checklist for the annual) >> >> POH is incomplete >> >> Wheel pants and fairings are fit and finished except for the upper intersection fairings >> >> The parking brake valve leaks >> >> The back up battery fuse has blown twice now >> >> The 1042G wire covers are not finish painted to match the interior >> >> Door locks are not installed >> >> AOA is not calibrated >> >> Needs a rudder trim tab >> >> An aileron trim tab wouldn't hurt >> >> 1 weeping rivet >> >> >> I'd like to thank you all for the camaraderie over the 11 plus years it took me to build it. It certainly would have been nice to be part of the flying community a bit longer but I don't regret a minute of the 4,874 hours I spent building it. >> >> Jeff Carpenter >> N410CF >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 11:12:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Rv10 Fuselage Dolly
    From: Terry Moushon <tmoushon@gmail.com>
    10 Builders... My 10 took flight 5/2/16 and have 86 hours to date. All going well. My 10 was slow build and I am ready to part with the dolly I built for fuselage construction. I am located in Peoria, Illinois...and would honored to give it to another 10 builder. It is sturdy and has heavy duty caster wheels attached. As this topic offer no value to built units, please PM me so we don't clutter up the site. Terry


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    Time: 07:13:11 PM PST US
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Subject: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause
    Some of you probably saw the Probable Cause report <http://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/ReportGeneratorFile.ashx?EventID 150916X80028&AKey=1&RType=Final&IType=FA> that was recently published by the NTSB on the 5-Person, middle of the night, without a certificated pilot, RV-10 crash that occurred in Georgia. The PC report was pretty much what we all expected. The photo of the airframe <https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/59000-59499/59445/599119.pdf> showed the massive impact and airframe destruction that was reported by the law enforcement on the ground. This is the first time I've seen a photo of it as I don't believe the media was allowed back there. Anyway, I dug into the docket a bit more and found an interesting study that I hadn't seen performed inside other NTSB reports; a Personal Electronic Devices Report <https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/59000-59499/59445/599117.pdf>. The level of damage to the phones in this report is quite revealing. However I found it interesting that the NTSB is now utilizing cell phone data. We've always known it was possible, but I hadn't seen them do it yet in an investigation. That could potentially open up a can of worms. Perhaps PED's in the off position aren't a bad thing. Just thought it was interesting to see. Full Docket is here <https://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/hitlist.cfm?docketID=59445&CFID=947438&CFTOKEN=b95705b192b6ce88-79E743D5-0CC2-91FF-CC3336BD7C79B5CE> .... Phil


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    Time: 08:03:56 PM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@MSN.COM>
    Subject: Re: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause
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    Time: 08:04:10 PM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@MSN.COM>
    Subject: Re: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause
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    Time: 10:01:06 PM PST US
    From: P Reid <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Georgia: 5 Person RV-10 Probable Cause
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