RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 02/15/17


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:13 PM - Champion Slick Magneto Maintenance Kits - new to me (Bill Watson)
     2. 03:01 PM - Re: Champion Slick Magneto Maintenance Kits - new to me (Kevin Belue)
     3. 06:05 PM - RV10 Parts available (Richard Gurley)
     4. 06:39 PM - Re: RV10 Parts available (gulf)
     5. 10:16 PM - Fuel pressure problems continuing (Dan Charrois)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:13:27 PM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Champion Slick Magneto Maintenance Kits - new to me
    I was in the process of buying a couple of rebuilt (not overhauled) Slick Mags to replace my 800+ hour Mags. Aircraft Spruce carries them (along with new and overhauled). However, my last search in ACS turned up Champion Slick Magneto Maintenance Kits as shown here: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/slickmagmaintkit.php?clickkey=4368 http://www.championaerospace.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/FINAL-Magneto-Kit-Flyer.pdf The hadn't noticed this as an option before but looks very attractive. I've already fooled around with mine to comply with an earlier Service Directive and would love to do the work myself if I can bring the Mags back up to the rebuilt standard. Is anyone familiar with these kits? Do they contain what is needed to bring used mags up to the rebuilt standard? All input welcome. Bill "Ready for FIKI season to end" Watson --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 03:01:09 PM PST US
    From: Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Champion Slick Magneto Maintenance Kits - new to me
    Personally, I don't like to take chances with mag problems. I've had 2 occurrences of near engine out experiences with mags because I didn't keep a close check on mag condition. Now, I buy overhauled mags from a reputable source and have a complete mag check at 500 hrs. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > I was in the process of buying a couple of rebuilt (not overhauled) Slick > Mags to replace my 800+ hour Mags. Aircraft Spruce carries them (along > with new and overhauled). > > However, my last search in ACS turned up Champion Slick Magneto > Maintenance Kits as shown here: > https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/slickmagmaint > kit.php?clickkey=4368 > http://www.championaerospace.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ > FINAL-Magneto-Kit-Flyer.pdf > > The hadn't noticed this as an option before but looks very attractive. > I've already fooled around with mine to comply with an earlier Service > Directive and would love to do the work myself if I can bring the Mags back > up to the rebuilt standard. > > Is anyone familiar with these kits? Do they contain what is needed to > bring used mags up to the rebuilt standard? All input welcome. > > Bill "Ready for FIKI season to end" Watson > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >


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    Time: 06:05:11 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Gurley" <rngurley@att.net>
    Subject: RV10 Parts available
    I have machined two excess static ports and a tail light adapter available for anyone who needs them. These are machined parts that are commercially available from Cleveland Tools - but the only payment I would need is for shipping. Please let me know off line if you would like them. Dick


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    Time: 06:39:19 PM PST US
    From: "gulf" <fgcobble@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: RV10 Parts available
    Sounds like a good opportunity to me - what do you need me to do? Francis Gularte, Ventura, CA #40888 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gurley Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:01 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Parts available I have machined two excess static ports and a tail light adapter available for anyone who needs them. These are machined parts that are commercially available from Cleveland Tools - but the only payment I would need is for shipping. Please let me know off line if you would like them. Dick


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    Time: 10:16:44 PM PST US
    From: Dan Charrois <dan@syz.com>
    Subject: Fuel pressure problems continuing
    Hi everyone. My RV-10 has 9 hours of flight time so far with a factory new Lycoming IO-540 D4A5. On the last flight I did a couple of weeks ago, I tried a full rich climb to 10000', but ended up with my fuel pressure dropping down to around 11 psi when I got to 8700', at which point I turned on the boost pump and got the pressure back up to around 20 psi. Back down at a lower altitude, I tried turning off the boost pump, and the engine pump maintained pressure at 22 psi. But something was clearly not right, and since I was pretty much at the right time to do an oil and oil filter change anyway, thought it was a good time to do the equivalent of an "annual" to make sure everything was still looking good, and try and sort out the problem. Looking at my logs from past flights, typically my fuel pressure with the engine pump has been about 20-23 psi at 6000', 21 gph (full rich). I have typically seen higher pressures on the ground (27-29 psi) at lower RPMs and fuel flows. My fuel system is pretty much stock Van's, except I have an Andair fuel selector with an extension so it's lower in the tunnel, and I have gascolators in the wing roots (here in Canada, we require them). The fuel pump, filter, and fuel flow transducer (red cube) are all in the tunnel, as per plans. I thought I'd start with looking at the gascolator screens, since they're the easiest to get to, and being the first filters from the tanks to the engine, likely to collect the most. And I thought I hit the jackpot - both screens had some sort of lint buildup in them. I thought I'd kept the tanks clean while constructing, but guess it wasn't as good as I thought. So I cleaned them up figuring I found the problem (assuming that since they caught debris, likely there wasn't anything blocking things further down the line), changed the oil and filter, put things back together and figured I'd go flying. But in doing my runup, after a few minutes when the engine was getting warm and running at relatively low RPMs, I turned the boost pump on for a few seconds and then back off. When I turned it off, I saw the pressure dropping slowly. It got down to around 13 psi. I tried advancing the throttle a bit to see if maybe the engine was running too slow to provide enough fuel pressure, and the engine promptly died. No sputtering or anything - just quit, like I pulled the mixture to ICO and that's what I wanted it to do. It's not done that before. Obviously, at this point I wasn't going flying until I could figure out what was wrong. I managed to restart the engine (after a bit of effort - the engine had warmed up a bit, and I'm still sorting out the best way to do that). I couldn't get it to die again in the runup, so I decided to do a few high speed taxis/aborted takeoffs (fortunately, I'm at a quiet airport). Normally when I take off, I use the boost pump - this time I purposely left it off to see how the engine pump handled things on its own. I did three, and every time when I brought the engine up to full power and started a takeoff roll, the fuel pressure dropped significantly. Twice down to 12 or 13 psi. When I throttled back, the pressure came back up again. And this was tested on both left and right tanks - both behaved the same. So back to the drawing board, assuming there is still a blockage or restriction somewhere. I re-removed the gascolator screens again in case there was further contamination, but they look clean.. as do the fuel strainers that go into the tanks. Tomorrow, the plan is to get into the tunnel to check the fuel filter there (not looking forward to that - I'm going to have to remove a bunch of stuff to get into there, and had thought that since the gascolator screens had caught debris, the one in the tunnel likely will be fine). Nevertheless, it looks like I'm going to have to inspect the whole fuel system with a fine toothed comb to try and find if there's a blockage or something. I don't think there are any kinks in the lines - they were all bent with a tube bender and looked OK when I installed them, but I'll be taking another close look of course. While I have everything apart, if anyone has any ideas of what to check, I'd greatly appreciate them - I want to make sure I'm as thorough as possible, and don't want to close things up only to realize later I should have checked something else out while I was in there. The engine (and presumably fuel pump) were new from Lycoming, though they sat for about 1.5 years with preservative oil. How likely is it that the fuel pump itself might be the problem? The boost pump manages to bring my pressure back up to where it's supposed to be, but considering its design is different, it might be more tolerant to a fuel system's quirks. Thanks for any help or advice! Dan --- Dan Charrois President, Syzygy Research & Technology Phone: 780-961-2213




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