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1. 02:54 AM - Ignition (John Maccallum)
2. 04:15 AM - Re: Ignition (rvdave)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Re: Ignition (Phillip Perry)
4. 06:41 AM - Re: Ignition (Kelly McMullen)
5. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Ignition (Tim Olson)
6. 07:50 AM - Re: Ignition (Carl Froehlich)
7. 08:56 AM - Re: Ignition (Albert)
8. 11:50 AM - Re: Ignition (Ed Kranz)
9. 12:22 PM - Re: Ignition (Don McDonald)
10. 12:26 PM - Re: Ignition (Albert)
11. 12:54 PM - Re: Ignition (Tim Olson)
12. 01:07 PM - Re: Re: Ignition (Marcus Cooper)
13. 08:41 PM - Any issues with VHF interference? (Rob Kochman)
14. 09:15 PM - Re: Any issues with VHF interference? (Danny Riggs)
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G'day Albert,
I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the
failure mode is for the Wiring?
cheers
John MacCallum
------ Original Message ------
From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Thursday, 16 Mar, 2017 At 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition
I have the plasma 2+. Before I was aware that the leads should be
replaced
at 500 hours, I was convinced that there might be a control unit problem
but
replacing the leads cleared it up. I have had several coil failures but
all
in all it has worked very well. I would do it again for sure. My
Lightspeed
was originally installed by Performance Engines in LaVerna, CA when they
built my engine. Albert
> From Lightspeeds Manual:
500 hour Inspection
All Systems:
Replace high-tension leads at 500 hours or 10-year intervals.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
Albert, Is that the only issue you have had with your LSE? Which
model do
you have?
Do not archive.
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> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> At about 900 hobbs on my RV-10 I began experiencing random misfirings
> on both my Lightspeed and slick ignition systems. Klaus recommends
> replacing the LSE wires at 500 hours and I replaced the slick harness
> soon after. Both systems are running smoothly now at 1100+ hours.
> Albert Gardner
> RV-10 N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
> PS: I had the wheel pants off for repainting and made what used to be
> a 4.3 hour flight that took almost 6. Same on return but we had a
> little TW. Lots more gas, some at $5.59.
>
>
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...so I replaced all of the wires. Pretty easy and convenient to do with bulk wire
and the right crimper...
Tim,
Where can you get the bulk wire, fittings, and crimper?
--------
Dave Ford
RV6 for sale
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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I got mine from Summit Racing. You can get the cable (MSD as I recall), the boots,
then they offer several types of crimpers. A cheap little tool that basically
a block that crimps, or dies for your ratchet type of crumpet you probably
used for terminal ends and coax, to dedicated crimpers.
I opted for the dies that fit in my ratchet set of crimpers. But also bought the
cheap block to use in a pinch. I plan on keeping it in my tool bag and being
able to rebuild a lead with parts from NAPA if needed.
Phil
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> On Mar 16, 2017, at 6:15 AM, rvdave <rv610dave@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> ...so I replaced all of the wires. Pretty easy and convenient to do with bulk
wire and the right crimper...
>
>
> Tim,
> Where can you get the bulk wire, fittings, and crimper?
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 for sale
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467381#467381
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It does make you wonder. Aviation plug harnesses are generally good for
engine TBO. Automotive wires on cars are usually good for at least 100,000
miles. Then there is the choice of pre-made harness vs making your own with
cost of materials and tools and your time.
Kind of like, I poured my own concrete 13 cu/yd slab 35 yrs ago. Since then
have always hired professionals for concrete work.
To drift the thread a bit...has anyone had problems with CHT rise after
installing any brand electronic ignition? I understand some have much
sharper advance curves than others.
A friend installed a 4 cyl electronic ignition on an RV-8 and saw a 50
degree rise in CHT, that make force him to remove the system.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:53 AM, John Maccallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
wrote:
> john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
>
> G'day Albert,
> I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the failure
> mode is for the Wiring?
>
> cheers
>
> John MacCallum
>
>
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The wire I bought was this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-34019
The crimper I bought was this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-35051
I would really recommend that you for sure have the right crimper, so
unless you can get these dies for your existing crimper, just buy
the right one.
The terminals and boots I bought were these:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8852
Might be good to stock up on these because with some bulk wire you
can then be good for years.
I do think I cut some of the terminal boots off a little on
length on my RV-10, so just compare them to the ones that came
with the ignition and if they seem too long, use a razor knife and
shorten them a tiny bit. Otherwise, they are the same thing.
These are the wire separators:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8841
Very handy for making a neat installation.
The plugs to use on the RV-10 are these IK27 plugs: (I've
also used IK24's and they work great too)
https://www.amazon.com/Denso-IK27-Iridium-Power-Spark/dp/B000CIY4FM/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1489672354&sr=1-1&keywords=IK27+Denso
On the RV-140 with the IO-390 I needed the long reach plugs.
https://www.amazon.com/Denso-IKH27-Iridium-Power-Spark/dp/B000M6URAA
(Never forget the "H" on the IO-390)
The IO-540 uses ones without the H.
For coils, there are similar coils out there from Nology, but
you have to beware of them. It's very important to get the
proper ohm coil and the coil that Klaus uses is customized.
He does use a stock part number from the company that makes them
in Germany, but, the lug on them is female when they come from
the factory. He has the lugs made specially for his coils and
gets them pressed in somehow. So I would highly recommend
that you just get the coils from Klaus, and always keep one
as a spare.
On my RV-14 site I did do some photos of the wire install.
Nothing too spectacular. It looks like I never did do a write-up
on my wire replacement on the RV-10 or I would have posted all
of this there.
Tim
On 3/16/2017 6:15 AM, rvdave wrote:
>
> ...so I replaced all of the wires. Pretty easy and convenient to do with bulk
wire and the right crimper...
>
>
> Tim,
> Where can you get the bulk wire, fittings, and crimper?
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 for sale
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
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Exactly correct. The wires and coils Klaus uses are automotive products. T
here is no reasonable "it just needs to be replaced at 500 hours" logic. H
ow often do you replace the coils and wires on your car?
This rings of my rule #3, "when something does not sound right it is strong i
ndication that you just don't have the whole story". Just like when I had
my first hard in flight Lightspeed failure and calling Klaus he said "ok, j
ust cut out a capacitor on the board and you will be fine". I choose to se
nd in the box. =46rom this exchange I gathered my 30 seconds on the phone t
elling Klaus the ignition breaker popped and would not reset he knew exactly
what happened. What followed was Klaus doing an "upgrade" that would fix t
hings. It did not, but it cost me a pile of cash to find out.
When I pulled my two Lightspeed off the RV-8A I gave them to another Lightsp
eed RV guy as spares. He soon scraped his Lightspeeds and replaced with pMa
gs.
Not that I have any strong opinion on the subject.....
WRT CHT, before you blame the ignitions make sure you really did the timing r
ight. If you are running pMags do a data run with the timing jumper in and t
hen out to compare.
Most (if not all) ignitions mimic the same 25 degrees BTDC (or 20 degrees fo
r the 200hp IO-360 or 210hp IO-390) at full power as do stock mags. As such
, if you are seeing high CHTs under full power, I'd first look at timing. A
fter that perhaps induction leaks.
I find the main advantage of pMags over mags, besides much easier maintenanc
e and not using those grossly overpriced spark plugs is that the advance tim
ing when at LOP cruise really makes the engine sing. The pMags do a nice jo
b starting the burn earlier for this lean charge so that you get all the fue
l used.
Carl
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It does make you wonder. Aviation plug harnesses are generally good for en
gine TBO. Automotive wires on cars are usually good for at least 100,000 mil
es. Then there is the choice of pre-made harness vs making your own with cos
t of materials and tools and your time.
> Kind of like, I poured my own concrete 13 cu/yd slab 35 yrs ago. Since the
n have always hired professionals for concrete work.
>
> To drift the thread a bit...has anyone had problems with CHT rise after in
stalling any brand electronic ignition? I understand some have much sharper a
dvance curves than others.
> A friend installed a 4 cyl electronic ignition on an RV-8 and saw a 50 deg
ree rise in CHT, that make force him to remove the system.
>
> -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
>
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:53 AM, John Maccallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.c
om> wrote:
om>
>>
>> G'day Albert,
>> I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the failur
e mode is for the Wiring?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> John MacCallum
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Hey John, how's flying down under? Really don't know why Klaus recommends replacement
but once I did, most of my problems went away. Wish I had done that first.
Albert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Maccallum
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Ignition
--> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
G'day Albert,
I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the failure mode
is for the Wiring?
cheers
John MacCallum
------ Original Message ------
From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Thursday, 16 Mar, 2017 At 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition
I have the plasma 2+. Before I was aware that the leads should be replaced at 500
hours, I was convinced that there might be a control unit problem but replacing
the leads cleared it up. I have had several coil failures but all in all
it has worked very well. I would do it again for sure. My Lightspeed was originally
installed by Performance Engines in LaVerna, CA when they built my engine.
Albert
> From Lightspeeds Manual:
500 hour Inspection
All Systems:
Replace high-tension leads at 500 hours or 10-year intervals.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
Albert, Is that the only issue you have had with your LSE? Which
model do
you have?
Do not archive.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> At about 900 hobbs on my RV-10 I began experiencing random misfirings
> on both my Lightspeed and slick ignition systems. Klaus recommends
> replacing the LSE wires at 500 hours and I replaced the slick harness
> soon after. Both systems are running smoothly now at 1100+ hours.
> Albert Gardner
> RV-10 N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
> PS: I had the wheel pants off for repainting and made what used to be
> a 4.3 hour flight that took almost 6. Same on return but we had a
> little TW. Lots more gas, some at $5.59.
>
>
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Just to confirm, Klaus is recommending replacing the spark plug wires at
500 hours, not the wires connecting the control box to the coils, right?
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> Hey John, how's flying down under? Really don't know why Klaus recommends
> replacement but once I did, most of my problems went away. Wish I had done
> that first. Albert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Maccallum
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:54 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Ignition
>
> --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
>
> G'day Albert,
> I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the failure
> mode is for the Wiring?
>
> cheers
>
> John MacCallum
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, 16 Mar, 2017 At 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition
>
>
> I have the plasma 2+. Before I was aware that the leads should be replaced
> at 500 hours, I was convinced that there might be a control unit problem
> but replacing the leads cleared it up. I have had several coil failures but
> all in all it has worked very well. I would do it again for sure. My
> Lightspeed was originally installed by Performance Engines in LaVerna, CA
> when they built my engine. Albert
>
> > From Lightspeeds Manual:
> 500 hour Inspection
> All Systems:
> Replace high-tension leads at 500 hours or 10-year intervals.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:10 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
>
>
> Albert, Is that the only issue you have had with your LSE? Which
> model do
> you have?
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > At about 900 hobbs on my RV-10 I began experiencing random misfirings
> > on both my Lightspeed and slick ignition systems. Klaus recommends
> > replacing the LSE wires at 500 hours and I replaced the slick harness
> > soon after. Both systems are running smoothly now at 1100+ hours.
> > Albert Gardner
> > RV-10 N991RV
> > Yuma, AZ
> > PS: I had the wheel pants off for repainting and made what used to be
> > a 4.3 hour flight that took almost 6. Same on return but we had a
> > little TW. Lots more gas, some at $5.59.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Right. =C2-Those are low voltage. =C2-Sometimes when you have what you
have, and others have had bad experiences with the same, you tend to just k
eep quiet and wait for possibly a better product. =C2-But so far with Kla
us's LSIII, I've lost 2 coils, and have replaced the ignition wires once.
=C2-It has worked pretty much flawlessly, no engine start issues, cold or
hot, and great power (also at LOP). =C2-Over 900 hours, and would never
put a traditional mag on my engine based on all the issues I hear about the
m.Also haven't lost a coil in 3 years since I put together a 12volt fan, mo
unted in foam, which within 2 minutes from engine shutdown can be inserted
and running inside my left cowl inlet.Sorry for all of you that have had pr
oblems, but no one here at Pecan has had any.Don McDonald0tx1ps. =C2-Summ
it racing is a great place to get lots of stuff.
From: Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
Just to confirm, Klaus is recommending replacing the spark plug wires at 50
0 hours, not the wires connecting the control box to the coils, right?
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hey John, how's flying down under? Really don't know why Klaus recommends r
eplacement=C2- but once I did, most of my problems went away. Wish I had
done that first. Albert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- server
@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Maccallum
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Ignition
--> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
G'day Albert,
I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the failure
mode is for the Wiring?
cheers
John MacCallum
------ Original Message ------
From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Thursday, 16 Mar, 2017 At 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition
I have the plasma 2+. Before I was aware that the leads should be replaced
at 500 hours, I was convinced that there might be a control unit problem bu
t replacing the leads cleared it up. I have had several coil failures but a
ll in all it has worked very well. I would do it again for sure. My Lightsp
eed was originally installed by Performance Engines in LaVerna, CA when the
y built my engine. Albert
> From Lightspeeds Manual:
500 hour Inspection
All Systems:
Replace high-tension leads at 500 hours or 10-year intervals.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
Albert,=C2- =C2-Is that the only issue you have had with your LSE?=C2
- Which
model do
you have?
Do not archive.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> At about 900 hobbs on my RV-10 I began experiencing random misfirings
> on both my Lightspeed and slick ignition systems. Klaus recommends
> replacing the LSE wires at 500 hours and I replaced the slick harness
> soon after. Both systems are running smoothly now at 1100+ hours.
> Albert Gardner
> RV-10 N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
> PS: I had the wheel pants off for repainting and made what used to be
> a 4.3 hour flight that took almost 6. Same on return but we had a
> little TW. Lots more gas, some at $5.59.
>
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Yes, just the high tension wires only.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
Just to confirm, Klaus is recommending replacing the spark plug wires at
500 hours, not the wires connecting the control box to the coils, right?
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hey John, how's flying down under? Really don't know why Klaus
recommends replacement but once I did, most of my problems went away.
Wish I had done that first. Albert
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Maccallum
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Ignition
--> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
G'day Albert,
I'm just wondering if Lightspeed or anyone else indicated what the
failure mode is for the Wiring?
cheers
John MacCallum
------ Original Message ------
From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Thursday, 16 Mar, 2017 At 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ignition
I have the plasma 2+. Before I was aware that the leads should be
replaced at 500 hours, I was convinced that there might be a control
unit problem but replacing the leads cleared it up. I have had several
coil failures but all in all it has worked very well. I would do it
again for sure. My Lightspeed was originally installed by Performance
Engines in LaVerna, CA when they built my engine. Albert
> From Lightspeeds Manual:
500 hour Inspection
All Systems:
Replace high-tension leads at 500 hours or 10-year intervals.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ignition
Albert, Is that the only issue you have had with your LSE? Which
model do
you have?
Do not archive.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> At about 900 hobbs on my RV-10 I began experiencing random misfirings
> on both my Lightspeed and slick ignition systems. Klaus recommends
> replacing the LSE wires at 500 hours and I replaced the slick harness
> soon after. Both systems are running smoothly now at 1100+ hours.
> Albert Gardner
> RV-10 N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
> PS: I had the wheel pants off for repainting and made what used to be
> a 4.3 hour flight that took almost 6. Same on return but we had a
> little TW. Lots more gas, some at $5.59.
>
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You're correct that he was referring to the red plug wires that
he likes to see replaced, because of the very high level
of energy that they carry. But, while the input wires are
definitely lowER voltage, they aren't really "low".
Per Klaus the coil input is made for ~500V input which
is actually approx 320V positive and 220V negative.
Whatever you do, don't just go and look up that PVL coil
part number and buy them somewhere else. His part number
is the same (and it's the same coil basically) as a PVL
coil, but, the ones sold elsewhere will have a female
socket on the coil. Klaus has the coils set up with machined
male lugs on them because the female connectors weren't
designed for the type of wires we use. So those are
modified by someone else for him. There is also a
company called Nology that uses a similar coil that
is available in male form, but it isn't of the same
omh-age as Klaus's coil. He has very tight specs for what
the ohm measurement is on the input side of the coil.
His price may be $10 or even $20 more than you would
pay for the coil from somewhere else, but it's definitely
worth going to him to get the exact proper coil.
Also, as I mentioned before, definitely go with iridium
plugs. I talked to him in January at length about the
coils and plugs and coil failures drastically dropped
off after switching to iridium.
Also, don't use random car plug wire. MAYBE in a
pinch you could do that, but he absolutely is adamant
that the MSD wire is really the only wire to use for
the energy levels of spark his system puts out.
Just buy a roll of 25' and you'll have enough for a
lot of years of flying.
Tim
On 3/16/2017 2:21 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
> Right. Those are low voltage. Sometimes when you have what you have,
> and others have had bad experiences with the same, you tend to just keep
> quiet and wait for possibly a better product. But so far with Klaus's
> LSIII, I've lost 2 coils, and have replaced the ignition wires once. It
> has worked pretty much flawlessly, no engine start issues, cold or hot,
> and great power (also at LOP). Over 900 hours, and would never put a
> traditional mag on my engine based on all the issues I hear about them.
> Also haven't lost a coil in 3 years since I put together a 12volt fan,
> mounted in foam, which within 2 minutes from engine shutdown can be
> inserted and running inside my left cowl inlet.
> Sorry for all of you that have had problems, but no one here at Pecan
> has had any.
> Don McDonald
> 0tx1
> ps. Summit racing is a great place to get lots of stuff.
>
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Tim,
Thanks for the links. Given the rarity I'll probably need to crimp conne
ctors on ignition wire, any problem with getting this tool instead and save a
lmost $75?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-3503
Marcus
40286, 800+ hours
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The wire I bought was this:
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-34019
>
> The crimper I bought was this:
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-35051
> I would really recommend that you for sure have the right crimper, so
> unless you can get these dies for your existing crimper, just buy
> the right one.
>
> The terminals and boots I bought were these:
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8852
> Might be good to stock up on these because with some bulk wire you
> can then be good for years.
>
> I do think I cut some of the terminal boots off a little on
> length on my RV-10, so just compare them to the ones that came
> with the ignition and if they seem too long, use a razor knife and
> shorten them a tiny bit. Otherwise, they are the same thing.
>
> These are the wire separators:
> https://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8841
> Very handy for making a neat installation.
>
> The plugs to use on the RV-10 are these IK27 plugs: (I've
> also used IK24's and they work great too)
> https://www.amazon.com/Denso-IK27-Iridium-Power-Spark/dp/B000CIY4FM/ref=
sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1489672354&sr=1-1&keywords=IK27+De
nso
>
> On the RV-140 with the IO-390 I needed the long reach plugs.
> https://www.amazon.com/Denso-IKH27-Iridium-Power-Spark/dp/B000M6URAA
> (Never forget the "H" on the IO-390)
> The IO-540 uses ones without the H.
>
> For coils, there are similar coils out there from Nology, but
> you have to beware of them. It's very important to get the
> proper ohm coil and the coil that Klaus uses is customized.
> He does use a stock part number from the company that makes them
> in Germany, but, the lug on them is female when they come from
> the factory. He has the lugs made specially for his coils and
> gets them pressed in somehow. So I would highly recommend
> that you just get the coils from Klaus, and always keep one
> as a spare.
>
> On my RV-14 site I did do some photos of the wire install.
> Nothing too spectacular. It looks like I never did do a write-up
> on my wire replacement on the RV-10 or I would have posted all
> of this there.
>
> Tim
>
>> On 3/16/2017 6:15 AM, rvdave wrote:
>>
>> ...so I replaced all of the wires. Pretty easy and convenient to do with b
ulk wire and the right crimper...
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>> Where can you get the bulk wire, fittings, and crimper?
>>
>> --------
>> Dave Ford
>> RV6 for sale
>> RV10 building
>> Cadillac, MI
>>
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Subject: | Any issues with VHF interference? |
I have an issue where my GS needle moves erratically when I'm flying an ILS
in wet clouds or rain. I'm guessing that means I have a static problem
(though the localizer and comm radios are fine). Anyone have a similar
issue and/or recommendations? I heard of a few people installing static
wicks, but it doesn't seem to be too common. Thanks...
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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