RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 03/26/17


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:06 AM - Re: Chrome door hinges (johngoodman)
     2. 09:43 AM - Re: Door seals (Alan Mekler MD)
     3. 01:10 PM - Re: Door seals (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 07:08 PM - W&B Configuration (Phillip Perry)
     5. 07:26 PM - Re: W&B Configuration (P Reid)
     6. 07:33 PM - Re: W&B Configuration (Kelly McMullen)
     7. 07:51 PM - Re: Chrome door hinges (AirMike)
     8. 08:27 PM - Re: W&B Configuration (David Saylor)
     9. 09:05 PM - Re: W&B Configuration ()
    10. 09:25 PM - Re: W&B Configuration (Danny Riggs)
    11. 09:34 PM - Re: W&B Configuration (Bob Turner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:06:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chrome door hinges
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    whodja wrote: > Any feedback on chrome door hinges. Does anyone have a chrome shop recommendation? There is a Chrome Shop on the West side of Atlanta that I used for my steps. Good work, not cheap, and it took a month. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete in 2011 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467626#467626


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    Time: 09:43:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door seals
    From: Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net>
    Installed the aircraft door seals on the door last sunday. It took two of use to get the door to close. worse part was getting the silicone adhesive off the door frame. Very slow with a razor blade. Today took test flight. The door seal compressed and door opens and closes nicely without ant trimming. Seal compresses well. Only problem is cold air comes in at the top at the hinges. Any ideas hoe wo best block this air flow? Alan N668G > On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:56 PM, tom.on.the.road@juno.com wrote: > > > I use a door seal like yours on my Lancair ES. 10 years since build, > still functioning well (my decible level inside is equal to or less than > many who are using the inflatible seals). Not to mention, mine costs > less than $20. > > Tom > > ____________________________________________________________ > How To Remove Eye Bags & Lip Lines Fast (Watch) > Womans Weekly > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/58d034291da9d342951a7st01vuc > > >


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    Time: 01:10:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door seals
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    You have to fabricate a cover over the door hinge at where the door comes down, so the seal has something to compress against. I used scrap fiberglass from trimming the window openings. Cut to fit, then bonded with some super fill. On 3/26/2017 9:41 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > > Installed the aircraft door seals on the door last sunday. It took two of use to get the door to close. worse part was getting the silicone adhesive off the door frame. Very slow with a razor blade. > Today took test flight. The door seal compressed and door opens and closes nicely without ant trimming. Seal compresses well. > Only problem is cold air comes in at the top at the hinges. Any ideas hoe wo best block this air flow? > Alan > N668G >> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:56 PM, tom.on.the.road@juno.com wrote: >> >> >> I use a door seal like yours on my Lancair ES. 10 years since build, >> still functioning well (my decible level inside is equal to or less than >> many who are using the inflatible seals). Not to mention, mine costs >> less than $20. >> >> Tom >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> How To Remove Eye Bags & Lip Lines Fast (Watch) >> Womans Weekly >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/58d034291da9d342951a7st01vuc >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 07:08:25 PM PST US
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Subject: W&B Configuration
    I'm about to zero in on having this thing on the scales in the next couple of days. Reading the FAA circular, they mention that the sumo should be full. (12 Qts in my case). Vans Section 5 is a little more vague. I have a hard time seeing myself ever filling the sump with 12, just to watch it get pumped right overboard and settle in around 8-9 on the stick. What have you all done with regards to sump capacity when running your W&B? I'm tempted to run it with full lines and 8 on the stick. But I'm just curious to know what most of you have done with yours? Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 07:26:50 PM PST US
    From: P Reid <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: W&B Configuration
    I thought through how I would fly the plane (aka 8qts) and did the W&B based on that assumption. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:07 PM Subject: RV10-List: W&B Configuration I'm about to zero in on having this thing on the scales in the next couple of days. Reading the FAA circular, they mention that the sumo should be full. (12 Qts in my case). Vans Section 5 is a little more vague. I have a hard time seeing myself ever filling the sump with 12, just to watch it get pumped right overboard and settle in around 8-9 on the stick. What have you all done with regards to sump capacity when running your W&B? I'm tempted to run it with full lines and 8 on the stick. But I'm just curious to know what most of you have done with yours? Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 07:33:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: W&B Configuration
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Do it on a measured 8 qts. The quantity to full is known. You likely will run it between 6 and 8 qts, depending on whether you have an air/oil separator or not. You can then prepare a separate W&B with full sump. I also recommend you weigh it with fuel tanks dry, because you won't know what the exact full quantity is, much less its weight that depends on temperature. On 3/26/2017 7:06 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > > I'm about to zero in on having this thing on the scales in the next couple of days. > > Reading the FAA circular, they mention that the sumo should be full. (12 Qts in my case). Vans Section 5 is a little more vague. > > I have a hard time seeing myself ever filling the sump with 12, just to watch it get pumped right overboard and settle in around 8-9 on the stick. > > What have you all done with regards to sump capacity when running your W&B? I'm tempted to run it with full lines and 8 on the stick. > > But I'm just curious to know what most of you have done with yours? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >


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    Time: 07:51:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chrome door hinges
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    I highly recommend Sherm's in Sacramento CA for chrome plating. Superb quality and excellent to deal with in all respects. Send detailed pics and they will give you a quote. -------- See you OSH '17 Q/B - flying 7 yrs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467660#467660


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    Time: 08:27:15 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: W&B Configuration
    I do W&Bs in the most common empty configuration. So I'd weigh it with 8 or 9 qts. If you want the data for "just in case", weigh it with 8 and then add 2 quarts. That should be enough to see the weight on a decent scale. Record all your weights again and you'll have the data to extract the exact arm of the oil. It's easy on a spreadsheet. Same goes for pilot, pax, and baggage. Plop down in the seat while it's still on the scales and you get the most accurate arm for your own self. Put 50# in the center of the baggage compartment, and you can get that arm too. Another thing to consider is to make the datum an easy-to-find spot, like the wing leading edge or the instrument panel or the front of the door. Then when you want to actually measure something important some day, you don't have to mess with some imaginary point out in front of the plane. --Dave On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm about to zero in on having this thing on the scales in the next couple > of days. > > Reading the FAA circular, they mention that the sumo should be full. (12 > Qts in my case). Vans Section 5 is a little more vague. > > I have a hard time seeing myself ever filling the sump with 12, just to > watch it get pumped right overboard and settle in around 8-9 on the stick. > > What have you all done with regards to sump capacity when running your > W&B? I'm tempted to run it with full lines and 8 on the stick. > > But I'm just curious to know what most of you have done with yours? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >


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    Time: 09:05:56 PM PST US
    From: <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: W&B Configuration
    Hey guys, Just curious here. Did I understand correctly that heating fuel changes the weight ... ?? If so, could someone explain why that would be? Thanks, =93 Lew


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    Time: 09:25:51 PM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@MSN.COM>
    Subject: Re: W&B Configuration
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    Time: 09:34:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: W&B Configuration
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    Lew Gallagher wrote: > Hey guys, > > Just curious here. Did I understand correctly that heating fuel changes the weight ... ?? If so, could someone explain why that would be? > > Thanks, Lew Nearly all materials (water being different) expand when heated. So one gallon of gas at some temperature might weigh exactly 6 pounds. Heat it up, it expands and overflows the container. There is now less (by weight, or number of molecules) gas in the one gallon container. In real life the aluminum fuel tank will also expand, but it's an order of magnitude less than the expansion of the gas. This is one reason jets (that carry huge amounts of gas) usually keep track of the actual weight. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467666#467666




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