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1. 08:41 AM - Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts (kearney)
2. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts (Carl Froehlich)
3. 10:12 AM - Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts (Bill Watson)
4. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts (Bill Watson)
5. 12:09 PM - Chelton white screen (Kevin Belue)
6. 12:52 PM - Re: Chelton white screen (Home)
7. 01:11 PM - Re: Chelton white screen (Tim Olson)
8. 01:11 PM - Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts (Bob Turner)
9. 01:36 PM - Re: Chelton white screen (Kevin Belue)
10. 02:09 PM - Re: Chelton white screen (John Miller)
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| Subject: | Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts |
Hi
Thanks to everyone for the comments. I may try the wing tip Archer NAV antenna,
perhaps two, rather than the whisker antenna.
This brings me to the comm antenna(s). Is there any significant difference between
the RAMI and COMANT comm antennas?
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts |
Just out of curiosity, two VOR antennas implies you plan on two VOR receivers.
Wondering why you would do that.
Carl
No whiskers on any of my planes and never will be!
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 11:41 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Hi
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> Thanks to everyone for the comments. I may try the wing tip Archer NAV antenna,
perhaps two, rather than the whisker antenna.
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> This brings me to the comm antenna(s). Is there any significant difference between
the RAMI and COMANT comm antennas?
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> Cheers
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> Les
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts |
Thanks for that Kelly.
Honestly, I'm rarely using the Nav radios except for those Class B ILSs
where the reception is more than adequate.
On 4/5/2017 8:19 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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> Bill,
> You could take that Archer com antenna, and lay it flat in the wing
> tip and use it as a second nav antenna. That would eliminate need for
> a splitter and give each nav radio close to double the signal strength.
>
> On 4/5/2017 4:03 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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>> I would add that I split the Archer Nav antenna between the 2 boxes and
>> it performs satisfactorily, particularly during RNAV approaches.
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>> Bill "wondering if my panel is getting a bit long in the tooth like its
>> pilot" Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts |
In my case it's because the G430 and the SL30 both have Nav radios that
are rarely used. That's why the the performance of one split antenna to
drive both works fine.
Though Kelly's thought of converting the Archer Comm to Nav would be a
slightly better backup situation than I have now.
On 4/6/2017 12:40 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
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> Just out of curiosity, two VOR antennas implies you plan on two VOR receivers.
Wondering why you would do that.
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> Carl
> No whiskers on any of my planes and never will be!
>
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 11:41 AM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> Thanks to everyone for the comments. I may try the wing tip Archer NAV antenna,
perhaps two, rather than the whisker antenna.
>>
>> This brings me to the comm antenna(s). Is there any significant difference between
the RAMI and COMANT comm antennas?
>>
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>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468089#468089
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| Subject: | Chelton white screen |
I powered up my RV10 the other day and one of the Chelton displays came up
with a white screen, which looked liked the backlight was on, but nothing
else was working. The other display operated normally. Have any of you seen
this before?
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton white screen |
I am sure that others will chime in but if you are not aware, Tim O. has an e
xcellent site built http://www.cheltonefispilots.com/ that may help. I had s
ome other issues (hard drive failure) that I panicked over that got resolved
fairly easily. If I recall correctly, some folks were able to re-seat the r
ibbon cables to the screen and help out. There is a lot of good info there o
n opening up and correcting some of the common problems.
Byron
N253RV
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I powered up my RV10 the other day and one of the Chelton displays came up
with a white screen, which looked liked the backlight was on, but nothing e
lse was working. The other display operated normally. Have any of you seen t
his before?
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton white screen |
That's correct, thanks Byron.
I would say that at least 50% of the time, people who have issues can fix th
em by opening the box and pulling some of the sections apart and re-seating t
hem. And, replacing a drive is not all that hard. The hardest part is that
some components from that era get more and more scarce as time goes on.
So try some self repair before sending it out. If you send it out you risk s
hipping damage that may be permanent due to these not being made anymore.
Tim
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Home <bdgillespie215@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am sure that others will chime in but if you are not aware, Tim O. has a
n excellent site built http://www.cheltonefispilots.com/ that may help. I ha
d some other issues (hard drive failure) that I panicked over that got resol
ved fairly easily. If I recall correctly, some folks were able to re-seat th
e ribbon cables to the screen and help out. There is a lot of good info ther
e on opening up and correcting some of the common problems.
>
> Byron
> N253RV
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I powered up my RV10 the other day and one of the Chelton displays came u
p with a white screen, which looked liked the backlight was on, but nothing e
lse was working. The other display operated normally. Have any of you seen t
his before?
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| Subject: | Re: Antennas and other Dark Arts |
Kellym wrote:
> Bill,
> You could take that Archer com antenna, and lay it flat in the wing tip
> and use it as a second nav antenna. That would eliminate need for a
> splitter and give each nav radio close to double the signal strength.
>
> On 4/5/2017 4:03 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > I would add that I split the Archer Nav antenna between the 2 boxes and
> > it performs satisfactorily, particularly during RNAV approaches.
> >
> > Bill "wondering if my panel is getting a bit long in the tooth like its
> > pilot" Watson
> >
> >
>
Remember that the com antenna is a bit (10%) shorter than the nav antenna, so it's
not optimized for nav frequencies. Whether it's better or worse than the 2x
loss of a splitter, I don't know.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton white screen |
I agree with you on possibility of damage from shipping. I plan to take it
apart and reseat cables and check it out as you suggest Tim. I design
equipment similar to this, so it's not something new to me in general, but
I want to collect insight and experience from anyone who has had problems
so I don't waste time on something that's already been done. I appreciate
the previous comments and suggestions. I have a login for Tim's Chelton
website, but forgot my login. Tim - can you tell what my user name is? I
don't have enough info to retrieve my password...
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
> That's correct, thanks Byron.
> I would say that at least 50% of the time, people who have issues can fix
> them by opening the box and pulling some of the sections apart and
> re-seating them. And, replacing a drive is not all that hard. The hardest
> part is that some components from that era get more and more scarce as time
> goes on.
> So try some self repair before sending it out. If you send it out you risk
> shipping damage that may be permanent due to these not being made anymore.
> Tim
>
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Home <bdgillespie215@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am sure that others will chime in but if you are not aware, Tim O. has
> an excellent site built http://www.cheltonefispilots.com/ that may help.
> I had some other issues (hard drive failure) that I panicked over that got
> resolved fairly easily. If I recall correctly, some folks were able to
> re-seat the ribbon cables to the screen and help out. There is a lot of
> good info there on opening up and correcting some of the common problems.
>
> Byron
> N253RV
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I powered up my RV10 the other day and one of the Chelton displays came up
> with a white screen, which looked liked the backlight was on, but nothing
> else was working. The other display operated normally. Have any of you seen
> this before?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton white screen |
Kevin,
When you pull yours apart to re-seat them, I suggest that you (1) use
some contact cleaner on the contacts and (2) examine the ribbon
connectors very closely. I found that one of mine had a very slight
puncture in a single strand from how things got layered during the
original build. I chased that gremlin for several years before
discovering that puncture.
grumpy
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I agree with you on possibility of damage from shipping. I plan to
take it apart and reseat cables and check it out as you suggest Tim. I
design equipment similar to this, so it's not something new to me in
general, but I want to collect insight and experience from anyone who
has had problems so I don't waste time on something that's already been
done. I appreciate the previous comments and suggestions. I have a login
for Tim's Chelton website, but forgot my login. Tim - can you tell what
my user name is? I don't have enough info to retrieve my password...
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
<mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
> That's correct, thanks Byron.
> I would say that at least 50% of the time, people who have issues can
fix them by opening the box and pulling some of the sections apart and
re-seating them. And, replacing a drive is not all that hard. The
hardest part is that some components from that era get more and more
scarce as time goes on.
> So try some self repair before sending it out. If you send it out you
risk shipping damage that may be permanent due to these not being made
anymore.
> Tim
>
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Home <bdgillespie215@gmail.com
<mailto:bdgillespie215@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> I am sure that others will chime in but if you are not aware, Tim O.
has an excellent site built http://www.cheltonefispilots.com/
<http://www.cheltonefispilots.com/> that may help. I had some other
issues (hard drive failure) that I panicked over that got resolved
fairly easily. If I recall correctly, some folks were able to re-seat
the ribbon cables to the screen and help out. There is a lot of good
info there on opening up and correcting some of the common problems.
>>
>> Byron
>> N253RV
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com
<mailto:kdb.rv10@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I powered up my RV10 the other day and one of the Chelton displays
came up with a white screen, which looked liked the backlight was on,
but nothing else was working. The other display operated normally. Have
any of you seen this before?
>
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