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1. 05:42 AM - Re: hail damage (Phillip Perry)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: hail damage (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: hail damage (Shannon Hicks)
4. 08:30 PM - Re: hail damage (Peter)
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Sorry to hear about the damage. That scares me the most about traveling with
the plane here in TX. Which city were you in?
We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10. I'll point
out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them from Vans
individually.
Phil
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> On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm <dlm34077@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy arrival and
departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft if a storm appear
eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request since the My Radar
app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). Apparently their internal
lack of communication failed to get the aircraft inside and hail damage resulted.
Because of the very inclement departure I did not notice the damage and
it was not discovered until April 16. Primary damage is to top of control surfaces
due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin them; other areas of thicker metal
had minor paint marks; even the cowl top had small faint marks in the paint.
The aircraft is insured and someone else will probably do the work. Any comments
or suggestions? either dealing with the insurance co or techniques to smooth
the metal?
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Unless they have changed, Vans QB facility uses some sort of squeezer to do
the double flush rivets on the trailing edge. It unfortunately dimples the
skin on the underside, quite significantly. I exchanged my original set for
some that weren't quite as bad. Any conscientious builder can produce
better double flush riveted trailing edges.
While there is the aesthetic issue of dimples in the skin, I have never
seen them affect the flying qualities, besides reducing drag (VBG). Not
sure whether golf balls or hail make better dimples...............Almost
all the courtesy airport cars in Texas have hail dents.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about the damage. That scares me the most about traveling
> with the plane here in TX. Which city were you in?
>
> We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10. I'll
> point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them
> from Vans individually.
>
> Phil
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm <dlm34077@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy
> arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft
> if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request
> since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red).
> Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft
> inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I
> did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary
> damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin
> them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top
> had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone
> else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing
> with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal?
>
>
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Another option is to call Wally over at Synergy Air. They do quick builds
for Van's and do impeccable work.
http://synergyair.com/
Shannon
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless they have changed, Vans QB facility uses some sort of squeezer to
> do the double flush rivets on the trailing edge. It unfortunately dimples
> the skin on the underside, quite significantly. I exchanged my original set
> for some that weren't quite as bad. Any conscientious builder can produce
> better double flush riveted trailing edges.
> While there is the aesthetic issue of dimples in the skin, I have never
> seen them affect the flying qualities, besides reducing drag (VBG). Not
> sure whether golf balls or hail make better dimples...............Almost
> all the courtesy airport cars in Texas have hail dents.
>
> -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry to hear about the damage. That scares me the most about traveling
>> with the plane here in TX. Which city were you in?
>>
>> We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10. I'll
>> point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them
>> from Vans individually.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm <dlm34077@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy
>> arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft
>> if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request
>> since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red).
>> Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft
>> inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I
>> did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary
>> damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin
>> them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top
>> had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone
>> else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing
>> with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal?
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In Germany we use a practice called "Dent-Repair".
The "Dent-Doctor" glue little pulling tools on the dents, and pull the sheet metal
with a pulling impact hammer. Or if there is a access hole somewhere, then
they entering a long pushing tool to push the dents out. If done properly you
cannot see anything from the dents after finished. Sorry for my bad English....
Peter Aringer
RV-10 build startet 2017-01, finished the VS, started with the HS
Mit freundlichen Gren
With Kind Regards
Peter Aringer
> Am 18.04.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>:
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> conscientious
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