---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/18/17: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:42 AM - Re: hail damage (Phillip Perry) 2. 06:11 AM - Re: hail damage (Kelly McMullen) 3. 06:19 AM - Re: hail damage (Shannon Hicks) 4. 08:30 PM - Re: hail damage (Peter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:35 AM PST US From: Phillip Perry Subject: Re: RV10-List: hail damage Sorry to hear about the damage. That scares me the most about traveling with the plane here in TX. Which city were you in? We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10. I'll point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them from Vans individually. Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm wrote: > > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:55 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: hail damage Unless they have changed, Vans QB facility uses some sort of squeezer to do the double flush rivets on the trailing edge. It unfortunately dimples the skin on the underside, quite significantly. I exchanged my original set for some that weren't quite as bad. Any conscientious builder can produce better double flush riveted trailing edges. While there is the aesthetic issue of dimples in the skin, I have never seen them affect the flying qualities, besides reducing drag (VBG). Not sure whether golf balls or hail make better dimples...............Almost all the courtesy airport cars in Texas have hail dents. -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Perry wrote: > > Sorry to hear about the damage. That scares me the most about traveling > with the plane here in TX. Which city were you in? > > We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10. I'll > point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them > from Vans individually. > > Phil > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm wrote: > > > > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy > arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft > if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request > since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). > Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft > inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I > did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary > damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin > them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top > had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone > else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing > with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal? > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:04 AM PST US From: Shannon Hicks Subject: Re: RV10-List: hail damage Another option is to call Wally over at Synergy Air. They do quick builds for Van's and do impeccable work. http://synergyair.com/ Shannon On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Unless they have changed, Vans QB facility uses some sort of squeezer to > do the double flush rivets on the trailing edge. It unfortunately dimples > the skin on the underside, quite significantly. I exchanged my original set > for some that weren't quite as bad. Any conscientious builder can produce > better double flush riveted trailing edges. > While there is the aesthetic issue of dimples in the skin, I have never > seen them affect the flying qualities, besides reducing drag (VBG). Not > sure whether golf balls or hail make better dimples...............Almost > all the courtesy airport cars in Texas have hail dents. > > -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Perry > wrote: > >> >> Sorry to hear about the damage. That scares me the most about traveling >> with the plane here in TX. Which city were you in? >> >> We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10. I'll >> point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them >> from Vans individually. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm wrote: >> > >> > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy >> arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft >> if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request >> since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). >> Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft >> inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I >> did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary >> damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin >> them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top >> had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone >> else will probably do the work. 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Or if there is a access hole somewhere, then they entering a long pushing tool to push the dents out. If done properly you cannot see anything from the dents after finished. Sorry for my bad English.... Peter Aringer RV-10 build startet 2017-01, finished the VS, started with the HS Mit freundlichen Gren With Kind Regards Peter Aringer > Am 18.04.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Kelly McMullen : > > conscientious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.