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1. 06:14 AM - Ignition wires seal (Carlos Trigo)
2. 07:02 AM - Re: Ignition wires seal (Rene Felker)
3. 07:13 AM - Re: Ignition wires seal (Kelly McMullen)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Ignition wires seal (Jesse Saint)
5. 09:14 AM - Re: Ignition wires seal (Carlos Trigo)
6. 12:21 PM - Re: Ignition wires seal (Carl Froehlich)
7. 01:47 PM - Re: Ignition wires seal (Carlos Trigo)
8. 06:56 PM - Prop Problems (Vernon Franklin)
9. 07:10 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Tim Olson)
10. 07:14 PM - Re: Prop Problems (John Miller)
11. 07:50 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Vernon Franklin)
12. 07:58 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Shannon Hicks)
13. 08:08 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Tim Olson)
14. 08:21 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Bruce Hoppe)
15. 08:35 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Vernon Franklin)
16. 09:23 PM - Re: Prop Problems (Bob Turner)
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| Subject: | Ignition wires seal |
Guys
I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles (cylinders'
#5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these baffles.
The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
Where can I obtain these seals?
Thanks
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
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| Subject: | Ignition wires seal |
I purchased a pair from ?????I can not remember????. It was one of the
normal suppliers.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:11 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wires seal
Guys
I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles
(cylinders' #5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these
baffles.
The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
Where can I obtain these seals?
Thanks
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition wires seal |
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/enginebafflem376.php
On 4/22/2017 7:01 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
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> I purchased a pair from ?????I can not remember????. It was one of the
> normal suppliers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wires seal
>
>
> Guys
>
> I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles
> (cylinders' #5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these
> baffles.
> The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
>
> This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
>
> Where can I obtain these seals?
>
> Thanks
> Carlos
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition wires seal |
Aircraft Spruce has them.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
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> On Apr 22, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>
>
> I purchased a pair from ?????I can not remember????. It was one of the
> normal suppliers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wires seal
>
>
> Guys
>
> I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles
> (cylinders' #5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these
> baffles.
> The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
>
> This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
>
> Where can I obtain these seals?
>
> Thanks
> Carlos
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition wires seal |
Thank you guys
I did look into the AcS catalog but didn't find them.
They're on their way now
Thanks
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
No dia 22/04/2017, s 15:17, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> escreveu:
>
> Aircraft Spruce has them.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I purchased a pair from ?????I can not remember????. It was one of the
>> normal suppliers.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:11 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wires seal
>>
>>
>> Guys
>>
>> I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles
>> (cylinders' #5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these
>> baffles.
>> The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
>>
>> This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
>>
>> Where can I obtain these seals?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carlos
>>
>> Enviado do meu iPhone
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition wires seal |
They should be with the engine. Did you look in the throttle body box?
Carl
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you guys
>
> I did look into the AcS catalog but didn't find them.
> They're on their way now
>
> Thanks
> Carlos
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
>
> No dia 22/04/2017, s 15:17, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> escreveu:
>
>>
>> Aircraft Spruce has them.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I purchased a pair from ?????I can not remember????. It was one of the
>>> normal suppliers.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:11 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wires seal
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys
>>>
>>> I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles
>>> (cylinders' #5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these
>>> baffles.
>>> The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
>>>
>>> This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
>>>
>>> Where can I obtain these seals?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> Enviado do meu iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition wires seal |
Hi Carl
The throttle body was installed many moons ago, but i'll try to find the box.
Cheers
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
No dia 22/04/2017, s 20:20, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> escreveu:
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> They should be with the engine. Did you look in the throttle body box?
>
> Carl
>
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you guys
>>
>> I did look into the AcS catalog but didn't find them.
>> They're on their way now
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carlos
>>
>> Enviado do meu iPhone
>>
>> No dia 22/04/2017, s 15:17, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> escreveu:
>>
>>>
>>> Aircraft Spruce has them.
>>>
>>> Jesse Saint
>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I purchased a pair from ?????I can not remember????. It was one of the
>>>> normal suppliers.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:11 AM
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: RV10-List: Ignition wires seal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guys
>>>>
>>>> I cannot find the 2 seals which are to be installed into the Baffles
>>>> (cylinders' #5 and #6 baffles) where the ignition wires pass trough these
>>>> baffles.
>>>> The plans indicate that those 2 seals are supplied with the engine.
>>>>
>>>> This engine was bought more than 5 years ago...
>>>>
>>>> Where can I obtain these seals?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>> Enviado do meu iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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I started the engine for the first time today :)
Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went to
test the prop, it would not cycle.
I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the
outside looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or
Lycoming.
I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue. I
just don't know the first place to start looking.
The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the
governor and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far
enough. See picture.
[image: Inline image 1]
Anyone ever experience this?
--
Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
I can't answer about the spacer. It should be easy enough to tell if the splines
are meshing. But I can tell you it make take a short bit of running time before
there's enough oil in the hub for the prop to cycle. You didn't mention
how long you ran it for but maybe you just didn't wait long enough?
Tim
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I started the engine for the first time today :)
>
> Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went to test
the prop, it would not cycle.
>
> I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the outside
looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or Lycoming.
>
> I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue. I just
don't know the first place to start looking.
>
> The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the governor
and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far enough. See picture.
>
> <image.png>
>
> Anyone ever experience this?
>
> --
> Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
Tim is correct, it takes several minutes of running for the oil to make its way
up to the governor.
When I pulled my prop for IRAN last year, it took 3-4 minutes of run time to get
enough oil back up there to move the blades.
grumpy
do not archive
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> I can't answer about the spacer. It should be easy enough to tell if the splines
are meshing. But I can tell you it make take a short bit of running time
before there's enough oil in the hub for the prop to cycle. You didn't mention
how long you ran it for but maybe you just didn't wait long enough?
> Tim
>
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I started the engine for the first time today :)
>>
>> Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went to test
the prop, it would not cycle.
>>
>> I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the outside
looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or Lycoming.
>>
>> I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue. I just
don't know the first place to start looking.
>>
>> The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the governor
and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far enough. See picture.
>>
>> <image.png>
>>
>> Anyone ever experience this?
>>
>> --
>> Vernon Franklin
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
It was probably between 3 and 5 minute.
How long should it take?
Vernon
On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 PM, "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> I can't answer about the spacer. It should be easy enough to tell if the
> splines are meshing. But I can tell you it make take a short bit of
> running time before there's enough oil in the hub for the prop to cycle.
> You didn't mention how long you ran it for but maybe you just didn't wait
> long enough?
> Tim
>
> > On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I started the engine for the first time today :)
> >
> > Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went to
> test the prop, it would not cycle.
> >
> > I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the
> outside looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or
> Lycoming.
> >
> > I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue. I
> just don't know the first place to start looking.
> >
> > The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the
> governor and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far
> enough. See picture.
> >
> > <image.png>
> >
> > Anyone ever experience this?
> >
> > --
> > Vernon Franklin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
Vernon,
Have you considered having an a&p looking over you engine Install prior to
first flight.?
On Apr 22, 2017 9:53 PM, "Vernon Franklin" <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It was probably between 3 and 5 minute.
> How long should it take?
>
> Vernon
>
> On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 PM, "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I can't answer about the spacer. It should be easy enough to tell if the
>> splines are meshing. But I can tell you it make take a short bit of
>> running time before there's enough oil in the hub for the prop to cycle.
>> You didn't mention how long you ran it for but maybe you just didn't wait
>> long enough?
>> Tim
>>
>> > On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I started the engine for the first time today :)
>> >
>> > Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went
>> to test the prop, it would not cycle.
>> >
>> > I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the
>> outside looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or
>> Lycoming.
>> >
>> > I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue.
>> I just don't know the first place to start looking.
>> >
>> > The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the
>> governor and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far
>> enough. See picture.
>> >
>> > <image.png>
>> >
>> > Anyone ever experience this?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Vernon Franklin
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
I'm not exactly sure but it would probably depend on the RPM also. If you we
ren't up to maybe 1800 rpm or so I don't know that you'd get enough pressure
to get the oil flowing and make it work. I just know that when I did my IO
-390 start last year it did take a bit of time.
Tim
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com> w
rote:
>
> It was probably between 3 and 5 minute.
> How long should it take?
>
> Vernon
>
>> On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 PM, "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can't answer about the spacer. It should be easy enough to tell if the
splines are meshing. But I can tell you it make take a short bit of runnin
g time before there's enough oil in the hub for the prop to cycle. You didn
't mention how long you ran it for but maybe you just didn't wait long enoug
h?
>> Tim
>>
>> > On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> >
>> > I started the engine for the first time today :)
>> >
>> > Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went t
o test the prop, it would not cycle.
>> >
>> > I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the o
utside looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or Lyc
oming.
>> >
>> > I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue. I
just don't know the first place to start looking.
>> >
>> > The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the g
overnor and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far enough.
See picture.
>> >
>> > <image.png>
>> >
>> > Anyone ever experience this?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Vernon Franklin
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
Vernon,
I had a similar problem with my Hartzell prop. I checked all the same items, talked
to 2 A&P's, and finally called Hartzell. They immediately told me what
was wrong.
At what speed were you running the engine when you tried to cycle the prop? I
was used to doing a 1800 rpm run up and cycling the prop. That will not work.
You need to be at least 2000 rpm.
Bruce Hoppe
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I started the engine for the first time today :)
>
> Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went to test
the prop, it would not cycle.
>
> I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the outside
looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or Lycoming.
>
> I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue. I just
don't know the first place to start looking.
>
> The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the governor
and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far enough. See picture.
>
> <image.png>
>
> Anyone ever experience this?
>
> --
> Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
Yup. Had two of them out there with me today. We were all stumped.
Vernon
On Apr 22, 2017 10:00 PM, "Shannon Hicks" <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vernon,
> Have you considered having an a&p looking over you engine Install prior to
> first flight.?
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2017 9:53 PM, "Vernon Franklin" <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It was probably between 3 and 5 minute.
>> How long should it take?
>>
>> Vernon
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 PM, "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I can't answer about the spacer. It should be easy enough to tell if
>>> the splines are meshing. But I can tell you it make take a short bit of
>>> running time before there's enough oil in the hub for the prop to cycle.
>>> You didn't mention how long you ran it for but maybe you just didn't wait
>>> long enough?
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> > On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Vernon Franklin <
>>> vernon.franklin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I started the engine for the first time today :)
>>> >
>>> > Everything was in the green, and looked really good. But when I went
>>> to test the prop, it would not cycle.
>>> >
>>> > I have a hartzell gov, and the arm swing is good. Everything from the
>>> outside looks like it should work. Everything is stock from Van's FWF or
>>> Lycoming.
>>> >
>>> > I definitely pulled the plug on the crank case, that isn't the issue.
>>> I just don't know the first place to start looking.
>>> >
>>> > The only thing I can see from the outside, is this spacer between the
>>> governor and the engine, maybe the teeth on the gear cannot reach far
>>> enough. See picture.
>>> >
>>> > <image.png>
>>> >
>>> > Anyone ever experience this?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Vernon Franklin
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Problems |
Agree with others. You need to be at over 1700 rpm, prop control pulled back, for
up to 45 seconds or so, to get enough oil in there.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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