RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 05/25/17


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:12 PM - OT: Constellation by Adrien Bosc, a novel exploring an actual plane crash... and flush riveting (Bill Watson)
     2. 03:46 PM - Re: 2017 AirVenture RV-10 Dinner/Social (kearney)
     3. 03:50 PM - Vans Fiberglass Quality (kearney)
     4. 04:04 PM - Electronic Ignition / Electronic Fuel Injection (kearney)
     5. 04:13 PM - Re: Vans Fiberglass Quality (Bruce Breckenridge)
     6. 07:05 PM - Re: Vans Fiberglass Quality (John Cox)
     7. 07:43 PM - N17VF Flys (Vernon Franklin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:12:30 PM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: OT: Constellation by Adrien Bosc, a novel exploring an actual
    plane crash... and flush riveting Pardon this completely off-topic post but I'm half way through a quite enjoyable novel that explores the 1949 crash of a Lockheed Constellation in the Azores. Normally my reading tends towards the non-fiction and technical but I try to read the occasional novel. "Constellation" caught my eye for the obvious reasons. Though translated from French, it is a quick and easy read that focuses, so far, on the lives impacted by the crash.... But what lives they are! Transoceanic flight, made routine by the war, is the Worldwide Web of the mid-20th century. It is an essential connection for both everyman moving through the world as well as for the people who conspire to move the world. Interestingly halfway through this 170 page novel, I found a reference to this Disney film clip <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0yxvsqot6s> on flush riveting. Some of you may have seen it because it is as accurate and complete today and it was then. But this little reference combined with the story of an air crash is just a bit of icing on the cake. The flush riveting film clip is linked to a larger story that revolves around a Mr Kay Kamen and Walt Disney. A story that includes the origin of the Mickey Mouse watch and practically every product ever merchandised in conjunction with a movie character. Anyway, I just thought I'd share my current enthusiasm for this little book with the list in the hope that a couple of you might find it worth a look. That is all. Bill "time to go clean up the workshop and do some maintaining" Watson do not archive --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 03:46:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 2017 AirVenture RV-10 Dinner/Social
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi Bob I plan to be there and may have a person or two in two - friends flying in with me. Cheers Les Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469606#469606


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    Time: 03:50:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Vans Fiberglass Quality
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi I just received the fuse kit for my new RV10. The canopy, compared to the one I received years ago is much improved quality wise. Does that mean that all the VAN's f/g quality has improved. I was so disappointed with my gear leg intersection fairings that I got a set from RVBits. I am wondering If I will need to do that again. Inquiring minds need to know. Les C-GCWZ - Flying C-GROK - some assembly required Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469607#469607


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    Time: 04:04:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Electronic Ignition / Electronic Fuel Injection
    From: "kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi I saw the post about the Surefly system and thought I should post this link to the SDS system. http://www.sdsefi.com/aircraft.html I was speaking to Ross Farnham about his system a couple of days ago and it looks quite interesting. Apparently it is flying on a couple of -10s already. I have a little experience with SDS from when I had a Subie in my -10. The SDS ignition performed very well (if only the engine did as well ). The support from Ross and Barry at the time was stellar. IMHO they are very good people to deal with. Cheers Les C-GCWZ flying C-GROK some assembly required Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469608#469608


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    Time: 04:13:42 PM PST US
    From: Bruce Breckenridge <bbreckenridge@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans Fiberglass Quality
    I took an 8 year break from the ten and helped my wife with a Christavia MK-1 (plans built, high wing, O-200). We finished it in September. Now, I'm back on finishing the wings and doing the fiberglass tail parts. I quickly ruined a fiberglass part and replaced it. I was shocked at the higher quality and went ahead and got new wingtips as well. Wow. Much smoother and less filling to be done. I'm sure someone knows what year the switch happened. Bruce Breckenridge 40018 On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Hi > > I just received the fuse kit for my new RV10. The canopy, compared to the > one I received years ago is much improved quality wise. Does that mean that > all the VAN's f/g quality has improved. I was so disappointed with my gear > leg intersection fairings that I got a set from RVBits. I am wondering If I > will need to do that again. > > Inquiring minds need to know. > > Les > > C-GCWZ - Flying > C-GROK - some assembly required > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469607#469607 > >


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    Time: 07:05:01 PM PST US
    From: John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans Fiberglass Quality
    Vans is now in a third generation of composition construction. They acknowledge the time invested by builders to arrive at completion and have modified the product from the green, to pink to now grey components. There is hope! And less of the 90% done, 90% to go rule. John Cox On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Hi > > I just received the fuse kit for my new RV10. The canopy, compared to the > one I received years ago is much improved quality wise. Does that mean that > all the VAN's f/g quality has improved. I was so disappointed with my gear > leg intersection fairings that I got a set from RVBits. I am wondering If I > will need to do that again. > > Inquiring minds need to know. > > Les > > C-GCWZ - Flying > C-GROK - some assembly required > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469607#469607 > >


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    Time: 07:43:50 PM PST US
    From: Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
    Subject: N17VF Flys
    After a long, almost 8 year build, I finally took flight!! My first flight was actually on May 1st, but it has been an adventurous month trying to chase down issues. As some of you recall, around the end of April I was having trouble with my Dynon EMS with getting the RPM dialed in correctly. After I configured the EMS with the correct P-Lead frequency, everything seemed ok. Or so I thought. I took off from T56 early on 5/1, a calm, cool, beautiful day. She leaped off the ground so fast, it was as if she was waiting for this day as much as me. I left DFW Class B as quickly as possible and scooted south, climbing to around 6,000. Of course breaking in the engine, I was full open. The whole time during the climb, I was watching EGT and CHT like a hawk. Every EGT report 325, every CHT reported 450, Oil Temp about 180. At this point, I figured I was a baffle god. After the temperatures stayed exactly the same once I hit cruise, my baffle achievement theory started to fade. I figured I had something wrong. All of a sudden, the EMS goes offline. Dynon keeps running, but I get some big red X's across the screen where the engine display is. Welp, time to put her down. Send the EMS back to Dynon, a week later they send me a new one. They have no idea what happened it was just fried. Put it immediately into the plane , and switch over to the input sensor debug screen in Dynon. I start running through everything I have direct control over that is feeding the EMS. Volts, Flaps, Rudder Trim, Aileron Trim, Elevator Trim.... When I pushed the elevator trim everything sensor just starts going crazy on the EMS debug screen. What is going on??? So starts the elevator trim debug adventure... I swap out the elevator trim for the aileron trim, flip on master, and switch to the debug screen. I hit elevator up and pop, EMS goes offline. DAMNIT! Blew another EMS. A couple of conclusions come out of this. 1) The trim motor is fine, there is no way that both elevator and aileron are both bad motors. 2) This must be a wiring issue, somewhere between nose and toes I have a bad elevator trim wire Proceed to send it back to Dynon, Dynon not to happy with me at this point. Not covered under warranty, but only $100 to fix it. So not to bad. I pull out the continuity meter, start looking at each wire in the bundle. Each wire is solid and shows continuity all the way through. WTF! I am confused at this point, and call it a day. I go out the next day, pull out the meter again, and by accident I touch green on one side and orange on the other, continuity. I touch a motor wire, continuity. At this point I am starting to see what is going on, there is a short in the line somewhere. I have wires touching in inappropriate ways. It was both a relief and rage at the same time, a difficult emotion to describe. For one, I was upset that something so simple could cause so many problems, and the other, I knew how much of a pain in the ass this was going to be to try and figure out where the wire was bad. I decided to just replace the whole wire, and not try to chase down where the actual short was. I got the wire out, and there was no visible damage anywhere. It looked as clean as the day I pulled it out of the Ray Allen box. Once I got the new wire run, I was bound and determined to figure out where the old wire was bad. So I took the divide and conquer approach, cutting it in half and testing each half for the bad half. Doing this until I got to about a foot of bad wire left. Then proceeded to strip that bad foot of wire. I must have pinched this section of wire at some point, because the internal individual wires had visible damage and exposed copper that was touching each other. It was so small, that if I hadn't been looking for this, I never would have even seen it as a problem. I got the new EMS in, check the sensors, everything looks good, and decide to go for a flight this weekend. Finally, good reading! Nothing burned up in flight! Been flying ever since :) Some initial comments on the plane: 1. She is fast, faster than I thought she would be. Granted I am running full throttle right now to break it in. Cruising straight and level I am hitting over 200 mph TAS. 2. The left wing is heavy, I have used all right trim I have and the left wing still drops, anyone seen this? 3. Cylinder #1 was hitting 450 while #2 was hitting 425, so I removed the dam on #1. All cylinders are under 400 now, I am very happy with this. 4. The temperatures seem to be best when climbing out at 140 mph, which still gives me around 1200 - 1500 fpm This is truly an amazing plane, and it has been an amazing journey to get here. Not sure I would do it again... Although, I do have all of these tools now, that would just go to waste if I didn't :) [image: Inline image 1] -- Vernon Franklin




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