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1. 04:42 AM - Re: Rv10 yaw damper (mhealydds)
2. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Linn Walters)
3. 08:52 AM - Re: Rv10 yaw damper (woxofswa)
4. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Bob Leffler)
5. 10:53 AM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Shannon Hicks)
6. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Kevin Belue)
7. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Shannon Hicks)
8. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Phillip Perry)
9. 12:10 PM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Albert)
10. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (RV10@TEXASRV10.COM)
11. 01:02 PM - Re: Re: Rv10 yaw damper (Shannon Hicks)
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I installed it anyway
after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying with ti for
over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy to report everything
worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10 is apparently the
same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works great, but I do have to
admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon tiller arm (150.00), and new
servo. It added about four pounds to the plane which was not a huge deal for me.
Bottom line every thing install pretty easy....the Vans bracket kit essentially
bolts onto existing bell crank brackets and you will have to run new ground
and power to new servo but can share serial and data lines with elevator servo
and then you are good to go and a short calibration procedure.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
Thanks Mhealy.
Nice to know that it's an easy adaptation. Still seems odd that they can't remove
the (useless to 10 owners) electrical connection stuff, reduce the price accordingly,
and create a bona fide 10 kit. I would hate to think that they see
selling unnecessary material as a revenue generator.
Hope your tail is less swishy in the bumps.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Flew May 10 2014
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470610#470610
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I can) .
.... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
Linn
Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
-------- Original message --------
>From mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
To rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I installed it
anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying with
ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy to re
port everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10 is a
pparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works great,
but I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon tiller arm
(150.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the plane which was
not a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install pretty easy....the
Vans bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell crank brackets and y
ou will have to run new ground and power to new servo but can share serial
and data lines with elevator servo and then you are good to go and a short
calibration procedure.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
Needed? No.
Awesome? Heck yes!
I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my
beautifully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was
relatively inexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the
plane and has been amazing in use.
Last week we encountered some really bad turbulence coming into Houston and
the ball stayed centered no matter how much we we're getting tossed around.
In the end, this falls into the personal preference realm.
If I were to build another -10 I would do the yaw dampener hands down.
Shannon
On Jun 30, 2017 12:08 PM, "Bob Leffler" <bob@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@
> matronics.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>
> Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
> I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I can)
> ..... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
> Linn
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> >From mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
> Date: 06/30/2017 7:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>
>
>
> I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I installed
> it anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying
> with ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy
> to report everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10
> is apparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works
> great, but I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon
> tiller arm (150.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the plane
> which was not a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install pretty
> easy....the Vans bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell crank
> brackets and you will have to run new ground and power to new servo but can
> share serial and data lines with elevator servo and then you are good to go
> and a short calibration procedure.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
Does the yaw damper take care of rudder trim without the automatic trim box?
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
> Needed? No.
>
> Awesome? Heck yes!
>
> I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my
> beautifully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was
> relatively inexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the
> plane and has been amazing in use.
>
> Last week we encountered some really bad turbulence coming into Houston
> and the ball stayed centered no matter how much we we're getting tossed
> around.
>
> In the end, this falls into the personal preference realm.
>
> If I were to build another -10 I would do the yaw dampener hands down.
>
> Shannon
>
> On Jun 30, 2017 12:08 PM, "Bob Leffler" <bob@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
>> Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <
>> flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>
>> Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
>> I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I can)
>> ..... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
>> Linn
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> >From mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
>> Date: 06/30/2017 7:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>
>>
>>
>> I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I installed
>> it anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying
>> with ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy
>> to report everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10
>> is apparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works
>> great, but I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon
>> tiller arm (150.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the plane
>> which was not a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install pretty
>> easy....the Vans bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell crank
>> brackets and you will have to run new ground and power to new servo but can
>> share serial and data lines with elevator servo and then you are good to go
>> and a short calibration procedure.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
--
Thanks,
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
It works independently of the roll auto trim. At least I'd does on the
trutrak system.
Shannon
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:47 PM Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does the yaw damper take care of rudder trim without the automatic trim
> box?
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Needed? No.
>>
>> Awesome? Heck yes!
>>
>> I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my
>> beautifully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was
>> relatively inexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the
>> plane and has been amazing in use.
>>
>> Last week we encountered some really bad turbulence coming into Houston
>> and the ball stayed centered no matter how much we we're getting tossed
>> around.
>>
>> In the end, this falls into the personal preference realm.
>>
>> If I were to build another -10 I would do the yaw dampener hands down.
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2017 12:08 PM, "Bob Leffler" <bob@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <
>>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <
>>> flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
>>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>
>>> Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
>>> I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I
>>> can) ..... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
>>> Linn
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> >From mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 06/30/2017 7:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I installed
>>> it anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying
>>> with ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy
>>> to report everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10
>>> is apparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works
>>> great, but I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon
>>> tiller arm (150.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the plane
>>> which was not a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install pretty
>>> easy....the Vans bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell crank
>>> brackets and you will have to run new ground and power to new servo but can
>>> share serial and data lines with elevator servo and then you are good to go
>>> and a short calibration procedure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ==========
>>> Email Forum -
>>> ==========
>>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>> ==========
>>> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
>>> ==========
>>> p; - List Contribution Web Site -
>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>> ==========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
Does the AP have to be engaged? Or can it be enabled without engaging the A
P?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It works independently of the roll auto trim. At least I'd does on the tru
trak system.
>
>
> Shannon
>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:47 PM Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Does the yaw damper take care of rudder trim without the automatic trim b
ox?
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>>> Needed? No.
>>>
>>> Awesome? Heck yes!
>>>
>>> I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my beautif
ully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was relatively i
nexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the plane and has be
en amazing in use.
>>>
>>> Last week we encountered some really bad turbulence coming into Houston a
nd the ball stayed centered no matter how much we we're getting tossed aroun
d.
>>>
>>> In the end, this falls into the personal preference realm.
>>>
>>> If I were to build another -10 I would do the yaw dampener hands down.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
>>>> On Jun 30, 2017 12:08 PM, "Bob Leffler" <bob@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>> Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
>>>>
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matr
onics.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>>
>>>> Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
>>>> I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I ca
n) ..... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
>>>> Linn
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> >=46rom mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 06/30/2017 7:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I installe
d it anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying wi
th ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy to r
eport everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10 is a
pparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works great, b
ut I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon tiller arm (1
50.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the plane which was not
a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install pretty easy....the Vans
bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell crank brackets and you wil
l have to run new ground and power to new servo but can share serial and dat
a lines with elevator servo and then you are good to go and a short calibrat
ion procedure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
There is another way that's even cheaper. I didn't want to cut my rudder
either so I used the stock elevator spring bias system to make a rudder
spring bias system.
2 pieces of cable are attached to the rudder at the horn. One goes
directly to the spring but the other goes to a pulley and then to the
other spring. I mounted the pulley on a bracket bolted to the back of
the battery tray/elevator bellcrank box.
The stock elevator spring bias assy is not modified and bolts to the
bottom skin straddling a stringer.
In practice right rudder is not normally needed but long, fast descents
need some left.
(Another builder uses a spring bias system attached to the rudder
pedals.)
Albert Gardner
RV-10 N991RV
Yuma, AZ
Shannon Hicks
I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my
beautifully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was
relatively inexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the
plane and has been amazing in use.
Shannon
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
On Garmin, there is a yaw button to engage the yaw system. The yaw system tr
ims to release pressure to appropriate required hands off trim. Works fantas
tic.
Gaylon Koenning
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 13:58, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does the AP have to be engaged? Or can it be enabled without engaging th
e AP?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It works independently of the roll auto trim. At least I'd does on the tr
utrak system.
>>
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:47 PM Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does the yaw damper take care of rudder trim without the automatic trim b
ox?
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> w
rote:
>>>> Needed? No.
>>>>
>>>> Awesome? Heck yes!
>>>>
>>>> I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my beauti
fully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was relatively
inexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the plane and has b
een amazing in use.
>>>>
>>>> Last week we encountered some really bad turbulence coming into Houston
and the ball stayed centered no matter how much we we're getting tossed aro
und.
>>>>
>>>> In the end, this falls into the personal preference realm.
>>>>
>>>> If I were to build another -10 I would do the yaw dampener hands down.
>>>>
>>>> Shannon
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2017 12:08 PM, "Bob Leffler" <bob@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>> Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>>>>
>>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@mat
ronics.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
>>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
>>>>> I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I c
an) ..... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
>>>>> Linn
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> >=46rom mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: 06/30/2017 7:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>>>> To rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>>> Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I install
ed it anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been flying w
ith ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am happy to
report everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and the -10 is
apparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper works great
, but I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit, Dynon tiller arm
(150.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the plane which was n
ot a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install pretty easy....the Va
ns bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell crank brackets and you w
ill have to run new ground and power to new servo but can share serial and d
ata lines with elevator servo and then you are good to go and a short calibr
ation procedure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Rv10 yaw damper |
Phil,
My set up requires the AP do be engaged for the YD to function. I believe
Garmin and TruTrak have a button to engage the YD independently. IN
prctice, I fly with AP on 90% of the time, so it works for me. I flew
almost my entire phase 1 (40) with it disconnected and the only time, It
bothered me was long straight flights where I would have the AP on anyway.
OH, that reminds me, My roll servo failed leaving Sun-n-fun this year, so I
had to hand fly all the way back to Houston with 45kt headwinds. THAT
SUCKED!!!!
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does the AP have to be engaged? Or can it be enabled without engaging
> the AP?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It works independently of the roll auto trim. At least I'd does on the
> trutrak system.
>
>
> Shannon
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:47 PM Kevin Belue <kdb.rv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does the yaw damper take care of rudder trim without the automatic trim
>> box?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Needed? No.
>>>
>>> Awesome? Heck yes!
>>>
>>> I decided to install a yaw dampener, because I feared cutting my
>>> beautifully straight rudder to accommodate an electric trim tab. It was
>>> relatively inexpensive ($800) compared to the rest of the gizmos on the
>>> plane and has been amazing in use.
>>>
>>> Last week we encountered some really bad turbulence coming into Houston
>>> and the ball stayed centered no matter how much we we're getting tossed
>>> around.
>>>
>>> In the end, this falls into the personal preference realm.
>>>
>>> If I were to build another -10 I would do the yaw dampener hands down.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
>>> On Jun 30, 2017 12:08 PM, "Bob Leffler" <bob@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Historically on the the RV-10 the consensus is that it isn't needed.
>>>>
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@
>>>> matronics.com> on behalf of Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21:54 AM
>>>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>>
>>>> Interesting discussion. Does anyone really need it?
>>>> I plan on using a RC servo hooked to trim hinge on rudder (because I
>>>> can) ..... and had not heard of yaw damper .....
>>>> Linn
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet cruising on the Allure Of The Seas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> >From mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 06/30/2017 7:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject RV10-List: Re: Rv10 yaw damper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had the same initial thoughts as you but, two weekends ago I
>>>> installed it anyway after assurance from Vans and Rob at AFS (who has been
>>>> flying with ti for over a year he said) that the Vans kits would work. I am
>>>> happy to report everything worked out well. The bulk head for the -14 and
>>>> the -10 is apparently the same in that area so it fits OK. The yaw damper
>>>> works great, but I do have to admit it is a bit pricey after Vans kit,
>>>> Dynon tiller arm (150.00), and new servo. It added about four pounds to the
>>>> plane which was not a huge deal for me. Bottom line every thing install
>>>> pretty easy....the Vans bracket kit essentially bolts onto existing bell
>>>> crank brackets and you will have to run new ground and power to new servo
>>>> but can share serial and data lines with elevator servo and then you are
>>>> good to go and a short calibration procedure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470607#470607
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ==========
>>>> Email Forum -
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - List Contribution Web Site -
>>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> ==========
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>
>
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