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1. 12:54 AM - Starter upgrade (tshort)
2. 07:19 AM - Re: Starter upgrade ()
3. 11:12 AM - Re: Starter upgrade (Tim Olson)
4. 03:52 PM - Re: Starter upgrade (Kelly McMullen)
5. 04:09 PM - Re: Starter upgrade (Tim Olson)
6. 06:30 PM - Re: Starter upgrade (Don McDonald)
7. 06:38 PM - Breakable ties (David Saylor)
8. 06:51 PM - Re: Starter upgrade (Tim Olson)
9. 10:44 PM - Re: Starter upgrade (John MacCallum)
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I've got the old LS starter that used to ship way back when with the IO540, and
am planning to upgrade during the panel upgrade this winter.
Anyone have feedback on the B&C lightweight starter vs the Skytec -NL model?
Performance, weight, fit issues, etc?
Thanks in advance.
Thomas Short
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
I have the NL on my RV-6 and have been very pleased. Most people who use the
NL seem to have been satisfied.
On the -10, I'm going with the B&C, just because I got a good deal on it.
I don't think you'll go wrong with either one.
KB
-----Original Message-----
From: tshort
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:53 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Starter upgrade
I've got the old LS starter that used to ship way back when with the IO540,
and am planning to upgrade during the panel upgrade this winter.
Anyone have feedback on the B&C lightweight starter vs the Skytec -NL model?
Performance, weight, fit issues, etc?
Thanks in advance.
Thomas Short
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473750#473750
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
I'd agree...between the two you will be happy either way.
I just got 2 of the NL's last year. They both work better than the LS and PM.
Tim
> On Oct 22, 2017, at 9:17 AM, <kboatright1@comcast.net> <kboatright1@comcast.net>
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> I have the NL on my RV-6 and have been very pleased. Most people who use the
NL seem to have been satisfied.
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> On the -10, I'm going with the B&C, just because I got a good deal on it.
>
> I don't think you'll go wrong with either one.
>
> KB
>
> -----Original Message----- From: tshort
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:53 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Starter upgrade
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> I've got the old LS starter that used to ship way back when with the IO540, and
am planning to upgrade during the panel upgrade this winter.
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> Anyone have feedback on the B&C lightweight starter vs the Skytec -NL model?
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> Performance, weight, fit issues, etc?
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> Thanks in advance.
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> Thomas Short
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
IF you go with the NL, be sure to get the latest version that has
improved kickback protection. The original used a shear pin, which could
not be replaced without removal of the starter.
On 10/22/2017 7:17 AM, kboatright1@comcast.net wrote:
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> I have the NL on my RV-6 and have been very pleased. Most people who use
> the NL seem to have been satisfied.
>
> On the -10, I'm going with the B&C, just because I got a good deal on it.
>
> I don't think you'll go wrong with either one.
>
> KB
>
> -----Original Message----- From: tshort
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:53 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Starter upgrade
>
>
> I've got the old LS starter that used to ship way back when with the
> IO540, and am planning to upgrade during the panel upgrade this winter.
>
> Anyone have feedback on the B&C lightweight starter vs the Skytec -NL
> model?
>
> Performance, weight, fit issues, etc?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Thomas Short
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473750#473750
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
How new are you talking, by "latest"?
Mine were from 2017, and I've unboxed 3 of them this year, and every one
of them came
with a shear pin glued to the top under the boss mount.
I do know that they advertise a new Kickback Protection System,
but I do believe it's still a shear pin and since it's glued to the boss
mount, I can't see it being
replaced without removal of the starter. It does say:
"Kickback Protection System (KPS) with field-replaceable shear pin"
... on their website. Perhaps we are supposed to cut out the pin and
keep it in the plane? If that were the case though, why would they just
not attach it to the starter in a ziploc bag like they do the star washers?
So, I think even the current one requires a shear pin.
That said, I've never had a kickback issue with any of the starters
over all of these years, so I'm not sure I'd worry too much about it,
if you have a well configured ignition system.
Tim
On 10/22/2017 5:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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> IF you go with the NL, be sure to get the latest version that has
> improved kickback protection. The original used a shear pin, which
> could not be replaced without removal of the starter.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
Just an FYI.=C2- The starters and alternators are no longer being provide
d and serviced by the same group as before.=C2- It's now Hartzell.=C2-
Big company, big company service, NOT.Don McDonald
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Starter upgrade
How new are you talking, by "latest"?
Mine were from 2017, and I've unboxed 3 of them this year, and every one o
f them came
with a shear pin glued to the top under the boss mount.
I do know that they advertise a new Kickback Protection System,
but I do believe it's still a shear pin and since it's glued to the boss m
ount, I can't see it being
replaced without removal of the starter.=C2- It does say:
"Kickback Protection System (KPS) with field-replaceable shear pin"
... on their website.=C2- Perhaps we are supposed to cut out the pin and
keep it in the plane?=C2- If that were the case though, why would they j
ust
not attach it to the starter in a ziploc bag like they do the star washers
?
So, I think even the current one requires a shear pin.
That said, I've never had a kickback issue with any of the starters
over all of these years, so I'm not sure I'd worry too much about it,
if you have a well configured ignition system.
Tim
On 10/22/2017 5:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
IF you go with the NL, be sure to get the latest version that has improved
kickback protection. The original used a shear pin, which could not be rep
laced without removal of the starter.
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Guys,
I bought a 500-yr supply of these little breakable ties for $5.
[image: Inline image 4][image: Inline image 5]
I use them on my alternate air knob, and I pull it once a year to make sure
it works.
If anybody wants some, just send me a PM with an address and I'll send you
an envelope full.
The McMaster no. is 7189K31 if you want to look up all the gory details.
--Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
I have had good service from them, myself. I almost didn=99t once, bu
t it ended up being done right. So I=99m not of the opinion that from
a service/support perspective they are bad. Maybe some people have other e
xperiences. My worst experience was that if you simply call and hope someon
e will answer, chances are they won=99t....but if you leave a voice me
ssage, you get a prompt response. I don=99t usually leave VM=99
s so it took me a few calls to actually get connected once
Tim
> On Oct 22, 2017, at 8:25 PM, Don McDonald<building_partner@yahoo.com> wrot
e:
>
> Just an FYI. The starters and alternators are no longer being provided an
d serviced by the same group as before. It's now Hartzell. Big company, bi
g company service, NOT.
> Don McDonald
>
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Starter upgrade
>
> How new are you talking, by "latest"?
>
> Mine were from 2017, and I've unboxed 3 of them this year, and every one o
f them came
> with a shear pin glued to the top under the boss mount.
> I do know that they advertise a new Kickback Protection System,
> but I do believe it's still a shear pin and since it's glued to the boss m
ount, I can't see it being
> replaced without removal of the starter. It does say:
>
> "Kickback Protection System (KPS) with field-replaceable shear pin"
> ... on their website. Perhaps we are supposed to cut out the pin and
> keep it in the plane? If that were the case though, why would they just
> not attach it to the starter in a ziploc bag like they do the star washers
?
>
> So, I think even the current one requires a shear pin.
> That said, I've never had a kickback issue with any of the starters
> over all of these years, so I'm not sure I'd worry too much about it,
> if you have a well configured ignition system.
>
> Tim
>
>> On 10/22/2017 5:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> IF you go with the NL, be sure to get the latest version that has improve
d kickback protection. The original used a shear pin, which could not be rep
laced without removal of the starter.
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Starter upgrade |
Your not wrong about no service Don. The Field wire broke off on my Plane Po
wer 60Amp in my RV10. The Alternator was brand new and had about 10 hours on
it. They were not interested and wouldn't even tell me what type of plug is
used so that I could buy another and fix it myself. Which is of course what
I ended up doing.
Cheers John MacCallum
VH-DUU
#41016
> On 23 Oct 2017, at 12:25, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Just an FYI. The starters and alternators are no longer being provided an
d serviced by the same group as before. It's now Hartzell. Big company, bi
g company service, NOT.
> Don McDonald
>
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Starter upgrade
>
> How new are you talking, by "latest"?
>
> Mine were from 2017, and I've unboxed 3 of them this year, and every one o
f them came
> with a shear pin glued to the top under the boss mount.
> I do know that they advertise a new Kickback Protection System,
> but I do believe it's still a shear pin and since it's glued to the boss m
ount, I can't see it being
> replaced without removal of the starter. It does say:
>
> "Kickback Protection System (KPS) with field-replaceable shear pin"
> ... on their website. Perhaps we are supposed to cut out the pin and
> keep it in the plane? If that were the case though, why would they just
> not attach it to the starter in a ziploc bag like they do the star washers
?
>
> So, I think even the current one requires a shear pin.
> That said, I've never had a kickback issue with any of the starters
> over all of these years, so I'm not sure I'd worry too much about it,
> if you have a well configured ignition system.
>
> Tim
>
>> On 10/22/2017 5:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> IF you go with the NL, be sure to get the latest version that has improve
d kickback protection. The original used a shear pin, which could not be rep
laced without removal of the starter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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