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0. 12:34 AM - PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2017 Fund Raiser During November! (Matt Dralle)
1. 09:40 AM - ipad gps (Albert)
2. 10:00 AM - ipad gps (Albert)
3. 10:36 AM - Re: ipad gps (Tim Olson)
4. 12:14 PM - Re: ipad gps (Jim Combs)
5. 12:45 PM - Re: ipad gps (Tim Olson)
6. 01:32 PM - Re: ipad gps (Phil Yoder)
7. 01:46 PM - Re: ipad gps (Bob Leffler)
8. 01:51 PM - Re: ipad gps (Tim Olson)
9. 02:59 PM - Re: ipad gps (Jim Combs)
10. 03:46 PM - Re: ipad gps (Albert)
11. 04:35 PM - Re: ipad gps (Jim Combs)
12. 04:41 PM - Re: ipad gps (Jim Combs)
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November!
Dear Listers,
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I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a GPS
signal to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until recently when
it seems to have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I had recently
started using an ipad on a RAM mount I'm think I would not replace the
Garmin but use the ipad instead. Question is though-how do I get a GPS
steering signal out of the ipad to the TruTrak?
Albert Gardner
RV-10 N991RV
Yuma, Arizona
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Looking on ebay for info about the price of Garmin gps units I ran across a
listing for a repair service (out of Russia of all places).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-for-Garmin-GPSmap-296-396-496-495-Co
lor-Chartplotter-GPS-Fix/263072741620?hash=item3d405b78f4:g:mrUAAOSwgv5ZXJgb
Anybody ever had one repaired or used a Russian repair service before?
Albert?
--> I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a
GPS signal --> to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until
recently when it seems to --> have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I
had recently started using an ipad --> on a RAM mount I'm think I would not
replace the Garmin but use the ipad instead. --> Question is though-how do I
get a GPS steering signal out of the ipad to the --> TruTrak?
--> Albert Gardner
--> RV-10 N991RV
--> Yuma, Arizona
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If you are just looking to get GPS to your TruTrak, I would look at just a simple
GPS puck If you dont have another suitable GPS in the plane already.. You can
buy something like the Garman GPS 18 for very cheap. The TruTrak is pretty
easy to integrate with a GPS, even a simple sirf GPS.
Tim
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>
> Looking on ebay for info about the price of Garmin gps units I ran across a
> listing for a repair service (out of Russia of all places).
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-for-Garmin-GPSmap-296-396-496-495-Co
> lor-Chartplotter-GPS-Fix/263072741620?hash=item3d405b78f4:g:mrUAAOSwgv5ZXJgb
>
> Anybody ever had one repaired or used a Russian repair service before?
> Albert?
>
>
>
> --> I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a
> GPS signal --> to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until
> recently when it seems to --> have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I
> had recently started using an ipad --> on a RAM mount I'm think I would not
> replace the Garmin but use the ipad instead. --> Question is though-how do I
> get a GPS steering signal out of the ipad to the --> TruTrak?
> --> Albert Gardner
> --> RV-10 N991RV
> --> Yuma, Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I have been using one of these with no issues:
GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> If you are just looking to get GPS to your TruTrak, I would look at just
a
> simple GPS puck If you don=99t have another suitable GPS in the pla
ne
> already.. You can buy something like the Garman GPS 18 for very cheap. T
he
> TruTrak is pretty easy to integrate with a GPS, even a simple sirf GPS.
> Tim
>
> > On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Looking on ebay for info about the price of Garmin gps units I ran
> across a
> > listing for a repair service (out of Russia of all places).
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-for-Garmin-
> GPSmap-296-396-496-495-Co
> > lor-Chartplotter-GPS-Fix/263072741620?hash=item3d405b78f4:g:
> mrUAAOSwgv5ZXJgb
> >
> > Anybody ever had one repaired or used a Russian repair service before?
> > Albert?
> >
> >
> >
> > --> I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provid
e
> a
> > GPS signal --> to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until
> > recently when it seems to --> have failed. New battery didn't help.
> Since I
> > had recently started using an ipad --> on a RAM mount I'm think I would
> not
> > replace the Garmin but use the ipad instead. --> Question is though-how
> do I
> > get a GPS steering signal out of the ipad to the --> TruTrak?
> > --> Albert Gardner
> > --> RV-10 N991RV
> > --> Yuma, Arizona
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
Tim
On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> I have been using one of these with no issues:
>
>
> GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
>
>
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I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can
see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
Phil
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
> I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
> more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
>
> That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
>
> Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
> the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
> of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
> GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
> buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
> TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
>
> Tim
>
> On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> > I have been using one of these with no issues:
> >
> >
> > GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
> >
> >
>
>
> --
Phil Yoder phil@philyoder.com \__________o-( )-o__________/
www.itsnotthatcomplex.com
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It keeps track of ground track and position.
The ARINC lines do the steering.
Tim
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil@philyoder.com> wrote:
>
> I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can s
ee a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
> Phil
>
>
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
>> I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
>> more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
>>
>> That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
>>
>> Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
>> the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
>> of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
>> GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
>> buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
>> TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
>> > I have been using one of these with no issues:
>> >
>> >
>> > GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
>> >
>> >
>> ==========
>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi
gator?RV10-List
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>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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n
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>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Phil Yoder phil@philyoder.com \__________o-( )-o__________/ www.itsnotthat
complex.com
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When in stand alone mode, it provides the GPS Ground track for the heading
information, plus it provides altitude information for standalone altitude
hold.
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
> It keeps track of ground track and position.
> The ARINC lines do the steering.
> Tim
>
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil@philyoder.com> wrote:
>
> I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can
> see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
> Phil
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
>> I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
>> more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
>>
>> That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
>>
>> Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
>> the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
>> of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
>> GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
>> buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
>> TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
>> > I have been using one of these with no issues:
>> >
>> >
>> > GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
>> >
>> >
>> ==========
>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.
>> matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ==========
>> FORUMS -
>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
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>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ==========
>>
>>
>>
>> --
> Phil Yoder phil@philyoder.com \__________o-( )-o__________/
> www.itsnotthatcomplex.com
>
>
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This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to
Pin 7.
Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or
9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or
Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to
the autopilot.
How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal
come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it
have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like
that might be all that I need.
Albert Gardner
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: ipad gps
It keeps track of ground track and position.
The ARINC lines do the steering.
Tim
On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil@philyoder.com> wrote:
I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I
can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but
???
Phil
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
Tim
On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> I have been using one of these with no issues:
>
>
> GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
>
>
-List" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
b Site -
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
rel="noreferrer"
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--
Phil Yoder phil@philyoder.com \__________o-( )-o__________/
www.itsnotthatcomplex.com
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I found this on the internet doing a search for BR-355 pin-out.
You can get the connector at digikey or mouser electronics.
This DIN connector is the same as that used on the OLD PS-2 Mouse /
Keyboard (Pre - USB)
Jim C
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to
> Pin 7.
>
>
> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or
> 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or
> Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to
> the autopilot.
>
>
> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come
> out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a
> serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might
> be all that I need.
>
> Albert Gardner
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Olson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:50 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: ipad gps
>
>
> It keeps track of ground track and position.
>
> The ARINC lines do the steering.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil@philyoder.com> wrote:
>
> I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can
> see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
> I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
> more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
>
> That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
>
> Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
> the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
> of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
> GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
> buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
> TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
>
> Tim
>
> On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> > I have been using one of these with no issues:
> >
> >
> > GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
> >
> >
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The baud rate is just setting the transfer rate from the GPS to the
Truetrac. Regardless of the baud rate used, you will still only get GPS
updates once per second. The sentence is short so no reason to get crazy
with high baud rates.
Jim C
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Albert <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to
> Pin 7.
>
>
> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or
> 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or
> Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to
> the autopilot.
>
>
> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come
> out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a
> serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might
> be all that I need.
>
> Albert Gardner
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Olson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:50 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: ipad gps
>
>
> It keeps track of ground track and position.
>
> The ARINC lines do the steering.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil@philyoder.com> wrote:
>
> I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can
> see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
> I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
> more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.
>
> That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:
>
> Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
> the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
> of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
> GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
> buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
> TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.
>
> Tim
>
> On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> > I have been using one of these with no issues:
> >
> >
> > GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
> >
> >
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