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Thu 11/02/17


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 08:04 AM - Need latest Navworx UAT Console (Bill Watson)
     2. 08:11 AM - Re: ipad gps (Tim Olson)
     3. 08:14 AM - Re: Need latest Navworx UAT Console (Tim Olson)
     4. 08:29 AM - Re: ipad gps (Lenny Iszak)
     5. 08:39 AM - Re: Need latest Navworx UAT Console (Bob Leffler)
     6. 08:42 AM - Re: ipad gps (Tim Olson)
     7. 09:22 AM - Re: Need latest Navworx UAT Console (Bill Watson)
     8. 09:47 AM - Re: ipad gps (Albert)
     9. 11:09 AM - Re: ipad gps (Tim Olson)
    10. 02:52 PM - Re: ipad gps (Jim Combs)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:04:11 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Need latest Navworx UAT Console
    I have the Navworx unit that will work with the AMOC given a certified GPS source. But I don't have a copy of the UAT console that will run, looking for help. I tried running the UAT console software I obtained back in 2012 but get an error on loading, "Nonshared DATA segment required", then if fails to open. Anyone have experience with this? A secondary concern I have is that I recall the UAT console loads a version of the Navworx software. If so, this is backlevel for my box (my box had been sent in since then for a maintenance upgrade). Does anyone have a copy of the UAT console that they can share or otherwise advise? Thanks. (I'll be posting on the VAF board as well) Bill "wired up G430w to the deadend box with all appendages crossed" Watson --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 08:11:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ipad gps
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple 5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that. That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck, but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works. https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594 For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9, and hooked up my own power module to power it. Tim On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote: > This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to > Pin 7. > > Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or > 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or > Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to > the autopilot. > > How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal > come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it > have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like > that might be all that I need. > > Albert Gardner


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    Time: 08:14:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Need latest Navworx UAT Console
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I have version 4.1.0 if you need. You're right that if you run the app, it will upgrade your firmware. Mine is far newer than 2012, but not the 5.0 that Bob talks about. I have seen one person who couldn't get it to load on their system, due to an issue with the system, but I was able to load it on 3 of them. Tim On 11/02/2017 10:01 AM, Bill Watson wrote: > > I have the Navworx unit that will work with the AMOC given a certified > GPS source. But I don't have a copy of the UAT console that will run, > looking for help. > > I tried running the UAT console software I obtained back in 2012 but get > an error on loading, "Nonshared DATA segment required", then if fails to > open. Anyone have experience with this? > > A secondary concern I have is that I recall the UAT console loads a > version of the Navworx software. If so, this is backlevel for my box > (my box had been sent in since then for a maintenance upgrade). > > Does anyone have a copy of the UAT console that they can share or > otherwise advise? Thanks. > > (I'll be posting on the VAF board as well) > > Bill "wired up G430w to the deadend box with all appendages crossed" Watson > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 08:29:56 AM PST US
    From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Subject: Re: ipad gps
    I have a Garmin puck feeding my ELT running off of a 5V DC-DC converter: Recom Power R-78W5.0-0.5 Mouser has it for under $8.40. The puck comes with a cigarette lighter adapter, but the 5V converter is much smaller. Lenny > On Nov 2, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > > > Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for > sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple > 5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that. > > That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces > the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck, > but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works. > > https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594 > > For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9, > and hooked up my own power module to power it. > Tim > > > > > > On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote: >> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7. >> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot. >> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need. >> Albert Gardner > > >


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    Time: 08:39:54 AM PST US
    From: Bob Leffler <bob@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Re: Need latest Navworx UAT Console
    If you need 4.1.0 and the manual, let me know. I haven't been able to locate anyone that has 5.0 yet. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic s.com> on behalf of Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:01:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Need latest Navworx UAT Console I have the Navworx unit that will work with the AMOC given a certified GPS source. But I don't have a copy of the UAT console that will run, looking for help. I tried running the UAT console software I obtained back in 2012 but get an error on loading, "Nonshared DATA segment required", then if fails to open. Anyone have experience with this? A secondary concern I have is that I recall the UAT console loads a version of the Navworx software. If so, this is backlevel for my box (my box had been sent in since then for a maintenance upgrade). Does anyone have a copy of the UAT console that they can share or otherwise advise? Thanks. (I'll be posting on the VAF board as well) Bill "wired up G430w to the deadend box with all appendages crossed" Watson --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 08:42:05 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: ipad gps
    Exactly. If you get a puck, plan to just chop the cable up anyway. In the end you can make it smaller and lighter and not have to deal with anyones special plug. Tim > On Nov 2, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrote: > > > I have a Garmin puck feeding my ELT running off of a 5V DC-DC converter: Recom Power R-78W5.0-0.5 > Mouser has it for under $8.40. > The puck comes with a cigarette lighter adapter, but the 5V converter is much smaller. > > Lenny > > >> On Nov 2, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: >> >> >> Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for >> sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple >> 5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that. >> >> That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces >> the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck, >> but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works. >> >> https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594 >> >> For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9, >> and hooked up my own power module to power it. >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote: >>> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7. >>> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot. >>> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need. >>> Albert Gardner >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 09:22:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Need latest Navworx UAT Console
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    The Mauledriver email is just for posting. My email is BillisinDurham - gmail (without the 'is'). I have the current manual from the Dallas folks. Thanks all! On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, Bill Watson wrote: > > I have the Navworx unit that will work with the AMOC given a certified > GPS source. But I don't have a copy of the UAT console that will run, > looking for help. > > I tried running the UAT console software I obtained back in 2012 but > get an error on loading, "Nonshared DATA segment required", then if > fails to open. Anyone have experience with this? > > A secondary concern I have is that I recall the UAT console loads a > version of the Navworx software. If so, this is backlevel for my box > (my box had been sent in since then for a maintenance upgrade). > > Does anyone have a copy of the UAT console that they can share or > otherwise advise? Thanks. > > (I'll be posting on the VAF board as well) > > Bill "wired up G430w to the deadend box with all appendages crossed" > Watson > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >


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    Time: 09:47:58 AM PST US
    From: "Albert" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: ipad gps
    OK, I found a 5V power supply on ebay for $8+ but looking at the listings for the BR-355 shows also a BR-355S4 which is much cheaper. What is the difference between the units? Listing for the BR-355 are over $200. (I did find a listing for a BR-355 from China for $15 + $13 shipping!!!). Albert Gardner RV-10 N991RV Yuma, Arizona


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    Time: 11:09:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ipad gps
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I don't know with 100% certainty but I think the biggest difference is likely that the S4 model uses the SiRF IV chipset whereas the regular BR355 may use an older or different chipset. They are both cheap: BR-355-S4 for $27.00 https://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BR-355S4-GPS-Receiver-Black/dp/B00AMAJFUO BR-355 for $33.95 https://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BR-355-Serial-GPS-Receiver/dp/B000VUFGF8 I don't see the ability on their website to directly compare the BR-355 with no suffix, but when I compare the -W with the -S4, the difference is SiRF III vs SiRF IV, and SiRF III does 20 channels wheras the SiRF IV does 48, and boots up a little quicker. I can tell you that when I had them sell me the ones that defaulted to 9600 baud, I got the BR-355-S4 version. I paid around $50 for that. If I didn't have the baud rate fixed, it would lose it's baud setting on power-off. I bought mine for APRS tracking and wanted to be able to use 9600 baud for that. I also feed my TruTrak as a secondary GPS. Hot tip: There's a magnet in the case that you can pull the sticker off and then use a screwdriver to pry the magnet out of it. I didn't want a magnet anywhere near my plane. Once the magnet is out, the puck weighs almost nothing and you can secure it with velcro somewhere. I have one in a wingtip and one under the VS fairing and both work perfectly. Something like that DC-DC converter you found will work well. I think I have that on one of them, and on the other I used an LM7805 5V regulator similar to this, along with a couple other components: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/107 cheap to do either way. Lenny's DC-DC converter I think is this one: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/RECOM/R-78W50-05/?qs=T0XSgvH75d6ym%2FmhBy%252boCA%3D%3D&gclid=CjwKCAjwhOvPBRBxEiwAx2nhLm6kZTNFsk-7LUrrI2uK_jNuTKkH5mIPGaB6Xfr_sIi4wxc-4RUORRoClb4QAvD_BwE It's also cheap and simple. You don't need a lot of wattage to drive this GPS. His can use source voltages of 6.5 to 32V, so may be a real nice option. Your GPS would be one of the last things in the panel to die if you lose power, and would be one of the better power-spike survivors at 32V. Tim On 11/2/2017 11:46 AM, Albert wrote: > > OK, I found a 5V power supply on ebay for $8+ but looking at the listings for the BR-355 shows also a BR-355S4 which is much cheaper. What is the difference between the units? Listing for the BR-355 are over $200. (I did find a listing for a BR-355 from China for $15 + $13 shipping!!!). > Albert Gardner > RV-10 N991RV > Yuma, Arizona > >


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    Time: 02:52:48 PM PST US
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ipad gps
    Yes the BR-355 5 V. On the Advanced Flight system, I used the sensor +5 output to drive the BR-355. There are also three terminal TO-220 case regulators that are ideal for powering this. They will take up to 35V input and are current and temperature regulated. Jim C On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for > sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple > 5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that. > > That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces > the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck, > but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works. > > https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594 > > For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9, > and hooked up my own power module to power it. > Tim > > > On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote: > >> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to >> Pin 7. >> >> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or >> 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or >> Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to >> the autopilot. >> >> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come >> out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a >> serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might >> be all that I need. >> >> Albert Gardner >> > >




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