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1. 07:58 AM - Tunnel Leak (mhealydds)
2. 08:48 AM - Re: Tunnel Leak (Bob Leffler)
3. 02:21 PM - Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (kearney)
4. 02:30 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (Shannon Hicks)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (David Maib)
6. 03:51 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (Phillip Perry)
7. 04:42 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (Lenny Iszak)
8. 06:29 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (Kelly McMullen)
9. 07:17 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (Dan Charrois)
10. 07:33 PM - Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant (dmaib@me.com)
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| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
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Doing my first condition inspection and everything going great until removed tunnel
cover and saw some blue staining on floor and all over boost pump.....obviously
a leak so I began trouble shooting. After pressurization I noticed pool
of fuel coming from under pump near front and felt fuel there. I had no leak
during phase one I know because I flew with cover off. Initial thought was poor
connection between pump and firewall (my FF senor is not in tunnel). I re-torqued
line and still leak. I removed and inspected line - looked good so cleaned
and replaced and still leak. Then I remade entire line replaced and still leak.
My suspicion now is that pump itself is leaking because the stain is mostly
on pump and floor but pump is raised off floor (so couldn't get stain form
other part of system not directly connected to pump) and none of those other fixes
worked. Have any of you seen this before and if so how would you test to
see if pump is bad?
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Assuming you have an afp pump, give don Rivera a call on Monday. Either d
on or Kyle can answer your questions. They=92re pretty good folks to work
with.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of mhealydds <mhealydds@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 10:57:45 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tunnel Leak
Doing my first condition inspection and everything going great until remove
d tunnel cover and saw some blue staining on floor and all over boost pump.
....obviously a leak so I began trouble shooting. After pressurization I no
ticed pool of fuel coming from under pump near front and felt fuel there. I
had no leak during phase one I know because I flew with cover off. Initial
thought was poor connection between pump and firewall (my FF senor is not
in tunnel). I re-torqued line and still leak. I removed and inspected line
- looked good so cleaned and replaced and still leak. Then I remade entire
line replaced and still leak. My suspicion now is that pump itself is leaki
ng because the stain is mostly on pump and floor but pump is raised off flo
or (so couldn't get stain form other part of system not directly connected
to pump) and none of those other fixes worked. Have any of you seen this be
fore and if so how would you test to see if pump is bad?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474431#474431
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| Subject: | Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
Hi
I am close to making a decision on whether or not to use vernier control knobs
or quadrant controls for Prop / Throttle / Mixture. With the Aerosport interior,
I can put the quadrant on the panel or on the center console.
For those who have already made this decision, I'd be interested in opinions etc.
Cheers
Les
C-GROK (some assembly required)
C-GCWZ (Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
Les,
I have the throttle quadrant and would not do it again. I love the look of
it, but I really miss out on being able to fine adjust my mixture.
Shannon
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:25 PM kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am close to making a decision on whether or not to use vernier control
> knobs or quadrant controls for Prop / Throttle / Mixture. With the
> Aerosport interior, I can put the quadrant on the panel or on the center
> console.
>
> For those who have already made this decision, I'd be interested in
> opinions etc.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> C-GROK (some assembly required)
> C-GCWZ (Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474445#474445
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
Hi Les,
If you can get a chance to fly an airplane with the quadrant, it would really help
you. This is one of those things that is strictly personal preference. Ive
flown both and found I prefer the stock controls. Back when I bought mine, stock
from Vans was a straight push-pull throttle and vernier prop and mixture.
I had owned a Bonanza prior to the -10 and it had vernier on all three. I definitely
prefer no vernier on the throttle, but love it on prop and mixture for
fine tuning. I know youll hear from others that love their quadrants. For what
its worth, I rarely fly formation these days but I am pretty sure most serious
formation organizations dont allow, or really frown on, vernier throttles.
David Maib
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 5:21 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> I am close to making a decision on whether or not to use vernier control knobs
or quadrant controls for Prop / Throttle / Mixture. With the Aerosport interior,
I can put the quadrant on the panel or on the center console.
>
> For those who have already made this decision, I'd be interested in opinions
etc.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> C-GROK (some assembly required)
> C-GCWZ (Flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474445#474445
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
I have the traditional push/pulls and really like them. All of my cables come
from McFarlane and they sell a non-locking Vernier throttle. (IE: A normal-looking
throttle cable that you can push/pull like a normal throttle cable without
having to push down a lock, but that you can fine tune by twisting too.)
I dont regret the non-locking vernier at all, but Im not really sure how much extra
functionality it brings (and I dont remember the cost difference to add that
functionality either).
But most of the time, it takes quite a few twists to change .1 of MP. Its really
just as easy, and probably faster, to push the knob in and hunt for the right
spot.
For the RV-10, it really likes to perform up high and that means the black knob
is pushed forward all the way anyway..... so there isnt much fine tuning in a
typical cruise.
Like I said, I dont regret the non-locking vernier throttle, but I am not sure
if its really worth the money. If we are talking under $100 then, yeah maybe
its worth it. But beyond that Id question if Id really need it again.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 5:16 PM, David Maib <dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Les,
> If you can get a chance to fly an airplane with the quadrant, it would really
help you. This is one of those things that is strictly personal preference. Ive
flown both and found I prefer the stock controls. Back when I bought mine,
stock from Vans was a straight push-pull throttle and vernier prop and mixture.
I had owned a Bonanza prior to the -10 and it had vernier on all three. I definitely
prefer no vernier on the throttle, but love it on prop and mixture for
fine tuning. I know youll hear from others that love their quadrants. For what
its worth, I rarely fly formation these days but I am pretty sure most serious
formation organizations dont allow, or really frown on, vernier throttles.
>
> David Maib
>
>
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 5:21 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am close to making a decision on whether or not to use vernier control knobs
or quadrant controls for Prop / Throttle / Mixture. With the Aerosport interior,
I can put the quadrant on the panel or on the center console.
>>
>> For those who have already made this decision, I'd be interested in opinions
etc.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>> C-GROK (some assembly required)
>> C-GCWZ (Flying)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474445#474445
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
I had a Diamond Katana with center console mounted controls and wanted
my -10 to have the throttle quadrant in the same place. Had to make a
custom center console to do that. It worked out well. Glad to see that
Geoff now offers that configuration. With the throttle quadrant in the
center console you can just slide your arm forward on the armrest and
you are on the controls. Pretty convenient. For fine control you can
anchor your fingers on the right side of the console and move the knobs
with your thumb.
The lining in the original (green) cables melts after a while and it
becomes hard to fine tune the mixture and even the prop. Ever since I
switched to the black cables from Push-pull.com all the controls have
been smooth and adjusting the mixture accurately is never an issue.
Here=99s a picture of an early 3D rendering of my panel/console.
Lenny
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 5:21 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> I am close to making a decision on whether or not to use vernier
control knobs or quadrant controls for Prop / Throttle / Mixture. With
the Aerosport interior, I can put the quadrant on the panel or on the
center console.
>
> For those who have already made this decision, I'd be interested in
opinions etc.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> C-GROK (some assembly required)
> C-GCWZ (Flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474445#474445
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
I have the same McFarlane vernier push pull. IIRC the ratio on the
throttle varies with how snug the friction lock is set. It is useful
when seeking precise power settings to gather data, whether it is
speeds, mixture, temps, etc.
I'm happy with a quadrant in a multi-engine aircraft. but prefer push
pull for single engine.
On 11/5/2017 4:50 PM, Phillip Perry wrote:
>
> I have the traditional push/pulls and really like them. All of my cables come
from McFarlane and they sell a non-locking Vernier throttle. 'm h (IE: A normal-looking
throttle cable that you can push/pull like a normal throttle cable
without having to push down a lock, but that you can fine tune by twisting too.)
>
> I dont regret the non-locking vernier at all, but Im not really sure how much
extra functionality it brings (and I dont remember the cost difference to add
that functionality either).
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
Hey Les.
My config is the quadrant under the panel on the Aerosport centre console. It's pretty much in the same position as http://www.aerosportproducts.com/rv10quadrant.htm though it looks a bit different (they've probably changed the design a couple of times since I bought it).
I do like it there - really comfortable to have my hand on the controls while resting
my arm on the armrest. I suppose a person would get used to whatever they
have, but I can't imagine mine being somewhere different :-)
Dan
> On 2017-Nov-05, at 3:21 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> I am close to making a decision on whether or not to use vernier control knobs
or quadrant controls for Prop / Throttle / Mixture. With the Aerosport interior,
I can put the quadrant on the panel or on the center console.
>
> For those who have already made this decision, I'd be interested in opinions
etc.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> C-GROK (some assembly required)
> C-GCWZ (Flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474445#474445
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Dan Charrois
President, Syzygy Research & Technology
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| Subject: | Re: Prop / Throttle / Mixture Quadrant |
Kellym wrote:
>
> I'm happy with a quadrant in a multi-engine aircraft. but prefer push
> pull for single engine.
>
>
[/quote]
Definitely agree. Quadrant with a multi-engine airplane works best.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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