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     0. 07:44 AM - Just A Few Days Left... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:25 AM - Re: Towbars and FBOs (John MacCallum)
     2. 02:58 AM - Re: Towbars and FBOs (Dan Charrois)
     3. 04:56 AM - Re: Towbars and FBOs (Bob Leffler)
     4. 06:35 AM - Re: Towbars and FBOs (Kelly McMullen)
     5. 07:09 AM - Re: Towbars and FBOs (David Maib)
     6. 02:22 PM - Re: RV10 door locks (AirMike)
     7. 10:42 PM - Re: RV10 door locks (Bob Turner)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Just A Few Days Left... | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Towbars and FBOs | 
      
      Hi Guys,
      
      Being downunder I am not familiar with the Acronym FBO.
      
      I know they must be the people that help marshal aircraft but can 
      someone fill me in?
      
      
      Cheers
      
      
      John MacCallum
      
      VH-DUU
      
      RV 10 # 41016 Flying
      
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Carr
      Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 1:43 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Towbars and FBOs
      
      
      Do FBO's usually have a towbar that will fit on an RV-10?  I thought I 
      remember reading that the answer is usually not and have a hazy memory 
      of a modification to enable standard towbars to fit.  What says the 
      list?
      
      
      I know a number of folks simply ask the FBO not to move the airplane, 
      but at least with FBOs I've encountered that may be a bit much to ask.  
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      David
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Towbars and FBOs | 
      
      
      
      > On 2017-Nov-25, at 7:43 PM, David Carr <junk@dcarr.org> wrote:
      > 
      > Do FBO's usually have a towbar that will fit on an RV-10?  I thought I remember
      reading that the answer is usually not and have a hazy memory of a modification
      to enable standard towbars to fit.  What says the list?
      
      I've been to around 15-20 FBOs last year (US and Canada) and though I brought my
      tow bar with me the first few flights, I soon started leaving it at home, since
      all the FBOs that needed to move my plane had a way of doing so.  Most have
      tow bars with interchangeable ends... I know that at one FBO, they commented
      that they had to change out the ends for what they used for some model of light
      jet (can't remember which one), but so far (knock on wood), they've all had
      a way of fitting.
      
      I do have slightly enlarged access holes to the bolts on the nose gear.. I can't
      remember by how much, but they are a bit larger than called for on the plans.
      Maybe that helps.
      
      I plan on modifying the tow bar bolts shortly to sit flush with the wheel fairings
      instead of recessed inside so that in case a tow bar slips off it doesn't
      destroy the fairing, so when that's done it should be even easier for generic
      tow bars to fit.  But regardless, I haven't had any problem with Van's stock design
      (albeit with slightly enlarged access holes as I said).
      
      Dan
      > 
      > I know a number of folks simply ask the FBO not to move the airplane, but at
      least with FBOs I've encountered that may be a bit much to ask.  
      > 
      > Thanks,
      > David
      
      
      ---
      Dan Charrois
      President, Syzygy Research & Technology
      Phone: 780-961-2213
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Towbars and FBOs | 
      
      Fixed base operator, your assumption is correct.
      
      Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
      ________________________________
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
      s.com> on behalf of John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
      Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:24:12 AM
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Towbars and FBOs
      
      Hi Guys,
      Being downunder I am not familiar with the Acronym FBO.
      I know they must be the people that help marshal aircraft but can someone f
      ill me in?
      
      Cheers
      
      John MacCallum
      VH-DUU
      RV 10 # 41016 Flying
      
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
      atronics.com] On Behalf Of David Carr
      Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 1:43 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Towbars and FBOs
      
      Do FBO's usually have a towbar that will fit on an RV-10?  I thought I reme
      mber reading that the answer is usually not and have a hazy memory of a mod
      ification to enable standard towbars to fit.  What says the list?
      
      I know a number of folks simply ask the FBO not to move the airplane, but a
      t least with FBOs I've encountered that may be a bit much to ask.
      
      Thanks,
      David
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Towbars and FBOs | 
      
      FBO=Fixed Base Operator. The company that provides fuel, parking, possibly
      maintenance at an airport.
       May also be associated with or run a flight school, rent aircraft, etc.
      
      -sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
      
      On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:24 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
      wrote:
      
      > Hi Guys,
      >
      > Being downunder I am not familiar with the Acronym FBO.
      >
      > I know they must be the people that help marshal aircraft but can someone
      > fill me in?
      >
      >
      > Cheers
      >
      >
      > John MacCallum
      >
      > VH-DUU
      >
      > RV 10 # 41016 Flying
      >
      >
      > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
      > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Carr
      > *Sent:* Sunday, 26 November 2017 1:43 PM
      > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* RV10-List: Towbars and FBOs
      >
      >
      > Do FBO's usually have a towbar that will fit on an RV-10?  I thought I
      > remember reading that the answer is usually not and have a hazy memory of a
      > modification to enable standard towbars to fit.  What says the list?
      >
      >
      > I know a number of folks simply ask the FBO not to move the airplane, but
      > at least with FBOs I've encountered that may be a bit much to ask.
      >
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > David
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Towbars and FBOs | 
      
      As others have noted, a business that provides fuel, hangars, tie-downs, 
      perhaps maintenance, flight training, etc. I believe the origin of the 
      term =9CFixed Base Operator=9D goes back to the very early 
      days of aviation in this country. =9CBarnstormers=9D flew 
      around the country selling airplane rides, performing at county fairs, 
      maybe providing a charter service, or whatever else they could do to 
      make a $ and had no =9Cfixed base=9D of operations. The term 
      FBO differentiated the barnstormer from the operator that had a fixed 
      place of business.
      
      David Maib
      N380DM
      RV-10 #40559 (will go over 1000 hours next week!)
      
      
      On Nov 26, 2017, at 3:24 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> 
      wrote:
      
      Hi Guys,
      Being downunder I am not familiar with the Acronym FBO.
      I know they must be the people that help marshal aircraft but can 
      someone fill me in?
      
      Cheers
      
      John MacCallum
      VH-DUU
      RV 10 # 41016 Flying
      
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> 
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of David Carr
      Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 1:43 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Towbars and FBOs
      
      Do FBO's usually have a towbar that will fit on an RV-10?  I thought I 
      remember reading that the answer is usually not and have a hazy memory 
      of a modification to enable standard towbars to fit.  What says the 
      list?
      
      I know a number of folks simply ask the FBO not to move the airplane, 
      but at least with FBOs I've encountered that may be a bit much to ask.  
      
      
      Thanks,
      David
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV10 door locks | 
      
      
      I have a very sophisticated door lock on the right (co-pilot) side. I stick a
      popsicle stick or tongue depressor in the free space under the aluminum
      lock release.
      
      --------
      See you OSH '18
      Q/B - flying 8 yrs.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475705#475705
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV10 door locks | 
      
      
      
      AirMike wrote:
      > I have a very sophisticated door lock on the right (co-pilot) side. I stick a
      > popsicle stick or tongue depressor in the free space under the aluminum
      > lock release.
      
      I use a small piece of pine for the same purpose. Passengers are less likely to
      stick it into their mouth. -:)
      
      --------
      Bob Turner
      RV-10 QB
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475707#475707
      
      
 
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