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1. 01:44 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Bob Leffler)
2. 05:43 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Kelly McMullen)
3. 05:49 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Kelly McMullen)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Rob Kermanj)
5. 06:45 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Lenard Iszak)
6. 07:31 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Tim Olson)
7. 09:24 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Lenny Iszak)
8. 11:01 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Tim Olson)
9. 01:38 PM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Dan Charrois)
10. 01:58 PM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Rob Kermanj)
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies.
There is also an electronic version on google play.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan@syz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance
Hi everyone.
When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN
and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been trea
ting them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with
as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an exp
erimental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto
breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspe
cted too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) doc
umentation came with them.
Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to
do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing th
e magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to
be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way
to put them back.
Thanks!
Dan
---
Dan Charrois
President, Syzygy Research & Technology
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
For what it is worth, common practice for Slicks has been to have a
competent magneto shop do an inspect and repair as necessary at 500
hours, and to buy new mags at 1000 hours. Main reason is cost of by the
book overhaul can exceed price of new. Typically the 500 hour will
replace points and maybe a few other items, and the mags will be
reliable for the 2nd 500 hours. There are some service bulletins that
call for 500 hour inspection, which you don't have to do, but it is
generally a good idea, and is required on some certified engines used in
commercial operations.
On 12/4/2017 11:23 PM, Dan Charrois wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and
66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating
them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they
work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft
:-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points
should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well
as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with
them.
>
> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do
this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos
themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled,
and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them
back.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> ---
> Dan Charrois
> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
> Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard
cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a
maintenance or overhaul manual.
Kelly
Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John
Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics
Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.
On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
>
> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard
> copies. There is also an electronic version on google play.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois
> <dan@syz.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with
> (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so
> I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't
> wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right
> attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from
> what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked
> periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine
> timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.
>
> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how
> to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually
> removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're
> going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my
> pocket the right way to put them back.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> ---
> Dan Charrois
> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
> Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
See
L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
Do not archive
> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
wrote:
>
<mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
>
> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard
cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a
maintenance or overhaul manual.
> Kelly
> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John
Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics
Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.
>
> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>
https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
<https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZL
W>
>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard
copies. There is also an electronic version on google play.
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>
>>
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>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
<owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>> on behalf of Dan Charrois
<dan@syz.com <mailto:dan@syz.com>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance
>> Hi everyone.
>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with
(66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so
I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't
wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right
attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from
what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked
periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine
timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.
>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly
how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually
removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're
going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my
pocket the right way to put them back.
>> Thanks!
>> Dan
>> ---
>> Dan Charrois
>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
>> Phone: 780-961-2213
>> ==========
>> Email Forum -
>> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
Tim did an excellent writeup on mag timing based on the Sac Skyranch instruc
tions, adding his comments explaining it further.
Here=99s a link:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/Mag_Timing/tims_slick_timing_info.htm
l
Lenny
> On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:23 AM, Dan Charrois <dan@syz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN
and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been trea
ting them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with a
s they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an exper
imental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto bre
aker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected
too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) document
ation came with them.
>
> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to
do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing th
e magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to b
e pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way t
o put them back.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> ---
> Dan Charrois
> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
> Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
Anyone have this in .pdf I can get? I just checked and I have L-1363C,
so I'd just like to update.
Tim
On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> See
>
> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
Found it here:
http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf
Lenny
> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
> Anyone have this in .pdf I can get? I just checked and I have L-1363C, so I'd
just like to update.
> Tim
>
>
>
>
> On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
>> See
>> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
>> Do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
Super, thanks a million!
I tried a whole pile of google hits and they all either wanted me to
sign up for something or they were fishy.
I skimmed this. I found it funny that the whole revision
from D to E was just to change the company name from Unison to
Champion. So if you have D, you're pretty close to F.
Tim
On 12/05/2017 11:21 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote:
>
> Found it here:
>
> http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf
>
> Lenny
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
Perfect - exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something
I want to approach with the proper documentation!
Dan
> On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> See
> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't
think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
>> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or
overhaul manual.
>> Kelly
>> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's
publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to
also disappear. I have and use all three.
>>
>> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
>>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies.
There is also an electronic version on google play.
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan@syz.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
>>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server
>>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN
and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating
them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they
work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental
aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points
should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well
as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with
them.
>>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to
do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos
themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled,
and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them
back.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dan
>>> ---
>>> Dan Charrois
>>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
>>> Phone: 780-961-2213
>>> ==========
>>> Email Forum -
>>> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>> ==========
>>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>> ums.matronics.com
>>> ==========
>>> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
>>> matronics.com
>>> ==========
>>> p; - List Contribution Web Site -
>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> ==========
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>> http://wiki.matronics.com
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
---
Dan Charrois
President, Syzygy Research & Technology
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto maintenance |
The good thing about magnetos is that they talk to you. You will know long before
a failure that the mag is sick. At least that has been my experience for the
past 30 years of flying.
Do not archive.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dan Charrois <dan@syz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Perfect - exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot - mags are definitely
something I want to approach with the proper documentation!
>
> Dan
>
>> On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> See
>> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I
don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
>>> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance
or overhaul manual.
>>> Kelly
>>> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's
publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to
also disappear. I have and use all three.
>>>
>>>> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
>>>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies.
There is also an electronic version on google play.
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan@syz.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
>>>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server
>>>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN
and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating
them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they
work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental
aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points
should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as
well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with
them.
>>>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to
do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the
magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled,
and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put
them back.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Dan
>>>> ---
>>>> Dan Charrois
>>>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
>>>> Phone: 780-961-2213
>>>> ==========
>>>> Email Forum -
>>>> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>>> ums.matronics.com
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
>>>> matronics.com
>>>> ==========
>>>> p; - List Contribution Web Site -
>>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> ==========
>>>
>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>> http://wiki.matronics.com
>>>
>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>
> ---
> Dan Charrois
> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
> Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
>
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