---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/05/17: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:44 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Bob Leffler) 2. 05:43 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Kelly McMullen) 3. 05:49 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Kelly McMullen) 4. 06:34 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Rob Kermanj) 5. 06:45 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Lenard Iszak) 6. 07:31 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Tim Olson) 7. 09:24 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Lenny Iszak) 8. 11:01 AM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Tim Olson) 9. 01:38 PM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Dan Charrois) 10. 01:58 PM - Re: Slick magneto maintenance (Rob Kermanj) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:11 AM PST US From: Bob Leffler Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dan Charrois Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM Subject: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance Hi everyone. When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been trea ting them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an exp erimental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspe cted too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) doc umentation came with them. Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing th e magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back. Thanks! Dan --- Dan Charrois President, Syzygy Research & Technology Phone: 780-961-2213 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance From: Kelly McMullen For what it is worth, common practice for Slicks has been to have a competent magneto shop do an inspect and repair as necessary at 500 hours, and to buy new mags at 1000 hours. Main reason is cost of by the book overhaul can exceed price of new. Typically the 500 hour will replace points and maybe a few other items, and the mags will be reliable for the 2nd 500 hours. There are some service bulletins that call for 500 hour inspection, which you don't have to do, but it is generally a good idea, and is required on some certified engines used in commercial operations. On 12/4/2017 11:23 PM, Dan Charrois wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them. > > Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back. > > Thanks! > > Dan > --- > Dan Charrois > President, Syzygy Research & Technology > Phone: 780-961-2213 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance From: Kelly McMullen I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback. I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual. Kelly Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three. On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: > https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW > > This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard > copies. There is also an electronic version on google play. > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > on behalf of Dan Charrois > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM > *To:* RV10-List Digest Server > *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance > > Hi everyone. > > When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with > (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so > I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't > wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right > attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from > what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked > periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine > timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them. > > Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how > to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually > removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're > going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my > pocket the right way to put them back. > > Thanks! > > Dan > --- > Dan Charrois > President, Syzygy Research & Technology > Phone: 780-961-2213 > > > ========== > Email Forum - > -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > ums.matronics.com > ========== > p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > matronics.com > ========== > p; - List Contribution Web Site - > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:31 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance See L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual Do not archive > On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > > > I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback. > I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual. > Kelly > Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three. > > On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW >> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play. >> Get Outlook for iOS > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > on behalf of Dan Charrois > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM >> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server >> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance >> Hi everyone. >> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them. >> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back. >> Thanks! >> Dan >> --- >> Dan Charrois >> President, Syzygy Research & Technology >> Phone: 780-961-2213 >> ========== >> Email Forum - >> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> ums.matronics.com >> ========== >> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - >> matronics.com >> ========== >> p; - List Contribution Web Site - >> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:57 AM PST US From: Lenard Iszak Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance Tim did an excellent writeup on mag timing based on the Sac Skyranch instruc tions, adding his comments explaining it further. Here=99s a link: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/Mag_Timing/tims_slick_timing_info.htm l Lenny > On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:23 AM, Dan Charrois wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been trea ting them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with a s they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an exper imental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto bre aker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) document ation came with them. > > Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing th e magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to b e pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way t o put them back. > > Thanks! > > Dan > --- > Dan Charrois > President, Syzygy Research & Technology > Phone: 780-961-2213 > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance From: Tim Olson Anyone have this in .pdf I can get? I just checked and I have L-1363C, so I'd just like to update. Tim On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: > See > > L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual > > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:04 AM PST US From: Lenny Iszak Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance Found it here: http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf Lenny > On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > Anyone have this in .pdf I can get? I just checked and I have L-1363C, so I'd just like to update. > Tim > > > > > On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: >> See >> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual >> Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance From: Tim Olson Super, thanks a million! I tried a whole pile of google hits and they all either wanted me to sign up for something or they were fishy. I skimmed this. I found it funny that the whole revision from D to E was just to change the company name from Unison to Champion. So if you have D, you're pretty close to F. Tim On 12/05/2017 11:21 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote: > > Found it here: > > http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf > > Lenny > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:29 PM PST US From: Dan Charrois Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance Perfect - exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something I want to approach with the proper documentation! Dan > On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: > > See > L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual > > Do not archive > > >> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >> >> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback. >> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual. >> Kelly >> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three. >> >> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: >>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW >>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play. >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dan Charrois >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM >>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server >>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance >>> Hi everyone. >>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them. >>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back. >>> Thanks! >>> Dan >>> --- >>> Dan Charrois >>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology >>> Phone: 780-961-2213 >>> ========== >>> Email Forum - >>> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>> ums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - >>> matronics.com >>> ========== >>> p; - List Contribution Web Site - >>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> >> http://forums.matronics.com >> >> http://wiki.matronics.com >> >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > --- Dan Charrois President, Syzygy Research & Technology Phone: 780-961-2213 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:03 PM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance The good thing about magnetos is that they talk to you. You will know long before a failure that the mag is sick. At least that has been my experience for the past 30 years of flying. Do not archive. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dan Charrois wrote: > > > Perfect - exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something I want to approach with the proper documentation! > > Dan > >> On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: >> >> See >> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual >> >> Do not archive >> >> >>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>> >>> >>> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback. >>> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual. >>> Kelly >>> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three. >>> >>>> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW >>>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play. >>>> Get Outlook for iOS >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dan Charrois >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM >>>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server >>>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Slick magneto maintenance >>>> Hi everyone. >>>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft :-) In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them. >>>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back. >>>> Thanks! >>>> Dan >>>> --- >>>> Dan Charrois >>>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology >>>> Phone: 780-961-2213 >>>> ========== >>>> Email Forum - >>>> -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> ========== >>>> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>>> ums.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - >>>> matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> p; - List Contribution Web Site - >>>> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> ========== >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> http://wiki.matronics.com >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > --- > Dan Charrois > President, Syzygy Research & Technology > Phone: 780-961-2213 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.