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Wed 01/31/18


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 12:01 AM - Re: IO-540 alternator-starter bracket (tshort)
     2. 04:46 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (John Miller)
     3. 05:31 AM - Re: IO-540 alternator-starter bracket (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Tim Olson)
     5. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Sean Stephens)
     7. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Tim Olson)
     8. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Dj Merrill)
     9. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Jesse Saint)
    10. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Stein Bruch)
    11. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Sean Stephens)
    12. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B - is the time now (Tim Olson)
    13. 11:20 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Looking_for_2=9D_alum_butterfly_valve? (Rob Kermanj)
    14. 03:01 PM - Re: Looking for =?ISO-8859-1?Q?2=9D?= alum butterfly valve (LarryRosen)
    15. 03:44 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_Looking_for_2=9D_alum_butterf?= =?utf-8?Q?ly_valve? (Rob Kermanj)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:01:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: IO-540 alternator-starter bracket
    From: "tshort" <tmshort@gmail.com>
    So far as I know no one makes one. I have a plane power 60A alternator and a B&C starter. The install instructions for the starter state that no bracket is needed if a B&C alternator (or any alternator that is perfectly balanced) is installed. [My summary, I don't have the instructions in front of me] I'm still in the process of installing things, but am seriously considering not installing a bracket. I called B&C, and was told that the bracket would provide extra support / vibration dampening and might extend the life of the PP alternator. Seeing as how it's not installed with the B&C alt/starter combo, I may just go without... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477716#477716


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    Time: 04:46:41 AM PST US
    From: John Miller <gengrumpy@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    My comments mirror those of Jesse. I put in the NavWorx box early on and found the traffic display and alerts to be outstanding. Mine was not connected to a certified GPS, so I had to find a replacement.and installed the Uavionix Echo with the Fly GPS. It is now working with a small issue with baro altitude that they are working to resolve. The traffic display and alerts are as good as the NavWorx unit was, and I do not want to be without it anymore. The weather display is good, but you have to understand what radar picture is output over the ADS-B link. I also have a Garmin 396 with subscription XM weather on it which works on the ground when you cannot see any ADS-B towers. The combination of the 2 wx inputs gives me a really good weather picture. If anyone wants the NavWorx box, Ill be happy to make you a great deal on it. All it needs is a certified GPS input to be legal. grumpy N184JM - flying since 2006 N82WW (RV8) - flying since Dec 29, 2016 > On Jan 30, 2018, at 9:52 PM, AirMike <Mikeabel900@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Nobody out there is posting - I would appreciate hearing from you. > > -------- > See you OSH '18 > Q/B - flying 8 yrs. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477714#477714 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:31:25 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: IO-540 alternator-starter bracket
    Have you talked to Plane Power? This is what is normally in their experimental kit: http://planepower.aero/images/AL12-EI60-B.jpg They offer both case mount and boss mount kits with all brackets. Is the bracket you need of differing dimensions than a stock alternator and starter combo? I used the stock PP kit with a Kelly (now Hartzell) EZ Drive starter with no problem. Sent from my IBM-360 main frame On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:13 AM, whodja <whodja@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know who sells the bracket for a boss mount from alternator > to starter bracket? I have a B and C alternator and OEM Lycoming/Skytec > starter. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477689#477689 > >


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    Time: 06:33:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I agree with Jesse, the time isn't now, the time was a while ago. I've been flying with ADS-B since 2009, and wouldn't be without it now. There are so many options to choose from, but only you can determine what's right for you, based on price point, and work involved. The cheapest method likely isn't the best method, but only you can determine what you're looking for out of it. If all you want is compliance, then it's one thing, but if you want all the benefits that go with it, you'll likely want more than the simplest of solutions. And some of it is driven by what's in your panel. If you just want to no think too hard about what you're going to do, then get the Garmin 345 or Stratus ESG, and once you're installed you'll have most of the options you could be looking for. Tim On 01/30/2018 09:52 PM, AirMike wrote: > > Nobody out there is posting - I would appreciate hearing from you. > > -------- > See you OSH '18 > Q/B - flying 8 yrs. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477714#477714 > >


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    Time: 06:52:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    I agree, the decision is driven by wallet, receive capability and what you already have. The UAT option unfortunately comes saddled with unnecessary complexity..you have to keep, maintain, and certify a Mode C transponder/encoder on top of the UAT add-on. The 1090ES option costs more initially, but is only one unit to maintain and certify every 2 years, and lets you go anywhere outside US borders. It also lets you go into the flight levels if that gets you over some weather. Then you have to consider whether you are going to take advantage of the ability to receive traffic and weather, and if you want that on your PFD/MFD or something portable, or both. Those of us that have the traffic and weather on our panel mount displays probably would only use the portable as a backup..but that is decided as much by budget and how/where we fly more than anything. When you add cost of iPad and software for that, plus a means to get the data to the iPad, whether portable receiver or something built-in, those numbers are significant, though perhaps less than getting it into our panel displays. However, having an independent, battery powered display has a lot of merit. On 1/31/2018 7:33 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I agree with Jesse, the time isn't now, the time was a while ago. > I've been flying with ADS-B since 2009, and wouldn't be without > it now. There are so many options to choose from, but only > you can determine what's right for you, based on price point, > and work involved. The cheapest method likely isn't the best > method, but only you can determine what you're looking for > out of it. If all you want is compliance, then it's one thing, > but if you want all the benefits that go with it, you'll likely > want more than the simplest of solutions. And some of it is > driven by what's in your panel. > > If you just want to no think too hard about what you're > going to do, then get the Garmin 345 or Stratus ESG, and > once you're installed you'll have most of the options you > could be looking for. > > Tim > > > On 01/30/2018 09:52 PM, AirMike wrote: >> >> Nobody out there is posting - I would appreciate hearing from you. >> >> -------- >> See you OSH '18 >> Q/B - flying 8 yrs. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477714#477714 >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:14:19 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    For OUT I went with the ES upgrade last year on my 330 transponder. It was just a convenient option for me. Note that it also required a software upgrade for the 430W GPS and another wire between the two. For IN I built myself a Stratux (http://stratux.me) and currently get traffic/weather from that in ForeFlight on the iPad. The Stratux can now do serial out so I could send it to my AFS 4500s if/when I get the desire to do that. I also still have my Sirrux XM subscription, but that will most likely be turned off as the Stratux IN box has proven itself. Many options indeed and it all just depends. -Sean #40303 > Kelly McMullen <mailto:kellym@aviating.com> > January 31, 2018 at 8:51 AM > > I agree, the decision is driven by wallet, receive capability and what > you already have. The UAT option unfortunately comes saddled with > unnecessary complexity..you have to keep, maintain, and certify a Mode > C transponder/encoder on top of the UAT add-on. The 1090ES option > costs more initially, but is only one unit to maintain and certify > every 2 years, and lets you go anywhere outside US borders. It also > lets you go into the flight levels if that gets you over some weather. > Then you have to consider whether you are going to take advantage of > the ability to receive traffic and weather, and if you want that on > your PFD/MFD or something portable, or both. Those of us that have the > traffic and weather on our panel mount displays probably would only > use the portable as a backup..but that is decided as much by budget > and how/where we fly more than anything. When you add cost of iPad and > software for that, plus a means to get the data to the iPad, whether > portable receiver or something built-in, those numbers are > significant, though perhaps less than getting it into our panel > displays. However, having an independent, battery powered display has > a lot of merit. > >


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    Time: 07:47:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Sean, I'd like to learn something on this. The ES upgrade, I've heard that when you get the transponder back, it's physically longer. Is that true? If not, it's more attractive. Tim On 01/31/2018 09:13 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > For OUT I went with the ES upgrade last year on my 330 transponder. It > was just a convenient option for me. Note that it also required a > software upgrade for the 430W GPS and another wire between the two. > > For IN I built myself a Stratux (http://stratux.me) and currently get > traffic/weather from that in ForeFlight on the iPad. The Stratux can > now do serial out so I could send it to my AFS 4500s if/when I get the > desire to do that. > > I also still have my Sirrux XM subscription, but that will most likely > be turned off as the Stratux IN box has proven itself. > > Many options indeed and it all just depends. > > -Sean #40303 > >> Kelly McMullen <mailto:kellym@aviating.com> >> January 31, 2018 at 8:51 AM >> >> I agree, the decision is driven by wallet, receive capability and what >> you already have. The UAT option unfortunately comes saddled with >> unnecessary complexity..you have to keep, maintain, and certify a Mode >> C transponder/encoder on top of the UAT add-on. The 1090ES option >> costs more initially, but is only one unit to maintain and certify >> every 2 years, and lets you go anywhere outside US borders. It also >> lets you go into the flight levels if that gets you over some weather. >> Then you have to consider whether you are going to take advantage of >> the ability to receive traffic and weather, and if you want that on >> your PFD/MFD or something portable, or both. Those of us that have the >> traffic and weather on our panel mount displays probably would only >> use the portable as a backup..but that is decided as much by budget >> and how/where we fly more than anything. When you add cost of iPad and >> software for that, plus a means to get the data to the iPad, whether >> portable receiver or something built-in, those numbers are >> significant, though perhaps less than getting it into our panel >> displays. However, having an independent, battery powered display has >> a lot of merit. >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 07:56:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
    On 01/31/2018 09:33 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > I agree with Jesse, the time isn't now, the time was a while ago. > I've been flying with ADS-B since 2009, and wouldn't be without > it now. Ditto. I installed full ADS-B In/Out about 3 years ago, and would not want to be without it. You don't realize how valuable a tool it really is until you fly with it, so if you know someone with an installed system, ask them to take you up and demo it. -Dj


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    Time: 08:06:35 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    The 330ES is physically identical to the 330. There is updated software and hardware inside, but its the same tray and connector. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 > On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > > > Sean, > > I'd like to learn something on this. The ES upgrade, I've heard that > when you get the transponder back, it's physically longer. Is that true? > If not, it's more attractive. > Tim > > > On 01/31/2018 09:13 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: >> For OUT I went with the ES upgrade last year on my 330 transponder. It was just a convenient option for me. Note that it also required a software upgrade for the 430W GPS and another wire between the two. >> For IN I built myself a Stratux (http://stratux.me) and currently get traffic/weather from that in ForeFlight on the iPad. The Stratux can now do serial out so I could send it to my AFS 4500s if/when I get the desire to do that. >> I also still have my Sirrux XM subscription, but that will most likely be turned off as the Stratux IN box has proven itself. >> Many options indeed and it all just depends. >> -Sean #40303 >>> Kelly McMullen <mailto:kellym@aviating.com> >>> January 31, 2018 at 8:51 AM >>> >>> I agree, the decision is driven by wallet, receive capability and what you already have. The UAT option unfortunately comes saddled with unnecessary complexity..you have to keep, maintain, and certify a Mode C transponder/encoder on top of the UAT add-on. The 1090ES option costs more initially, but is only one unit to maintain and certify every 2 years, and lets you go anywhere outside US borders. It also lets you go into the flight levels if that gets you over some weather. >>> Then you have to consider whether you are going to take advantage of the ability to receive traffic and weather, and if you want that on your PFD/MFD or something portable, or both. Those of us that have the traffic and weather on our panel mount displays probably would only use the portable as a backup..but that is decided as much by budget and how/where we fly more than anything. When you add cost of iPad and software for that, plus a means to get the data to the iPad, whether portable receiver or something built-in, those numbers are significant, though perhaps less than getting it into our panel displays. However, having an independent, battery powered display has a lot of merit. >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >


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    Time: 08:08:11 AM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    The 330ES upgrade does not physically change the dimensions of the transponder at all. Remove the transponder unit only from the panel, get it upgraded, the re-install (into the same tray you had before). Cheers, Stein -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: ADS-B - is the time now Sean, I'd like to learn something on this. The ES upgrade, I've heard that when you get the transponder back, it's physically longer. Is that true? If not, it's more attractive. Tim On 01/31/2018 09:13 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > --> <sean@stephensville.com> > > For OUT I went with the ES upgrade last year on my 330 transponder. > It was just a convenient option for me. Note that it also required a > software upgrade for the 430W GPS and another wire between the two. > > For IN I built myself a Stratux (http://stratux.me) and currently get > traffic/weather from that in ForeFlight on the iPad. The Stratux can > now do serial out so I could send it to my AFS 4500s if/when I get the > desire to do that. > > I also still have my Sirrux XM subscription, but that will most likely > be turned off as the Stratux IN box has proven itself. > > Many options indeed and it all just depends. > > -Sean #40303 > >> Kelly McMullen <mailto:kellym@aviating.com> January 31, 2018 at 8:51 >> AM >> >> I agree, the decision is driven by wallet, receive capability and >> what you already have. The UAT option unfortunately comes saddled >> with unnecessary complexity..you have to keep, maintain, and certify >> a Mode C transponder/encoder on top of the UAT add-on. The 1090ES >> option costs more initially, but is only one unit to maintain and >> certify every 2 years, and lets you go anywhere outside US borders. >> It also lets you go into the flight levels if that gets you over some weather. >> Then you have to consider whether you are going to take advantage of >> the ability to receive traffic and weather, and if you want that on >> your PFD/MFD or something portable, or both. Those of us that have >> the traffic and weather on our panel mount displays probably would >> only use the portable as a backup..but that is decided as much by >> budget and how/where we fly more than anything. When you add cost of >> iPad and software for that, plus a means to get the data to the iPad, >> whether portable receiver or something built-in, those numbers are >> significant, though perhaps less than getting it into our panel >> displays. However, having an independent, battery powered display has >> a lot of merit. >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 08:30:34 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    Yep. Just plop it back in the tray when you get it back. Well, and add the extra wire for the GPS position source. Stein handled my upgrade. Smooth process going through them as they handle the Garmin details. -Sean #40303 > Stein Bruch <mailto:stein@steinair.com> > January 31, 2018 at 10:07 AM > > The 330ES upgrade does not physically change the dimensions of the > transponder at all. Remove the transponder unit only from the panel, > get it upgraded, the re-install (into the same tray you had before). > > Cheers, > Stein > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:47 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: ADS-B - is the time now > > > Sean, > > I'd like to learn something on this. The ES upgrade, I've heard that > when you get the transponder back, it's physically longer. Is that true? > If not, it's more attractive. > Tim > >


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    Time: 08:57:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B - is the time now
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Sounds great. Glad it's that easy. Thanks guys, Tim On 01/31/2018 10:30 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > Yep. Just plop it back in the tray when you get it back. Well, and add > the extra wire for the GPS position source. > > Stein handled my upgrade. Smooth process going through them as they > handle the Garmin details. > > -Sean #40303 > >> Stein Bruch <mailto:stein@steinair.com> >> January 31, 2018 at 10:07 AM >> >> The 330ES upgrade does not physically change the dimensions of the >> transponder at all. Remove the transponder unit only from the panel, >> get it upgraded, the re-install (into the same tray you had before). >> >> Cheers, >> Stein >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson >> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:47 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: ADS-B - is the time now >> >> >> Sean, >> >> I'd like to learn something on this. The ES upgrade, I've heard that >> when you get the transponder back, it's physically longer. Is that true? >> If not, it's more attractive. >> Tim >>


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    Time: 11:20:14 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Looking_for_2=9D_alum_butterfly_valve?
    Anyone has a source for a 2 aluminum butterfly valve? Wicks aircraft lists them on their website but nothing in stock and they have not been able to contact their source. Thanks Do not archive. Sent from my iPad


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    Time: 03:01:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Looking for =?ISO-8859-1?Q?2=9D?= alum butterfly valve
    From: "LarryRosen" <N205EN@gmail.com>
    You may want to try AVIACOMP International. http://www.aviacompinternational.com/connectors.html. Looks like they are the manufacture of the valve you are looking for. They may be able to help you out. Larry -------- Larry Rosen #40356 N205EN (reserved) &lt;http&gt; Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477732#477732


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    Time: 03:44:19 PM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: utf-8?Q?Re:_RV10-List:_Re:_Looking_for_2=9D_alum_butterf?= =?utf-8?Q?ly_valve?
    Thanks Larry. Looks like what I am looking for. Will call tomorrow. Do not archive. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:00 PM, LarryRosen <N205EN@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You may want to try AVIACOMP International. http://www.aviacompinternational.com/connectors.html. Looks like they are the manufacture of the valve you are looking for. They may be able to help you out. > > Larry > > -------- > Larry Rosen > #40356 > N205EN (reserved) > &lt;http&gt; > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477732#477732 > > > > > > > > >




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