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1. 05:14 AM - Re: The (Ground) Plane Truth (Jesse Saint)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: Private Pilot Training (Tim Olson)
3. 09:02 AM - Door Seals (David J. Fritzsche)
4. 01:00 PM - Re: Door Seals (Bob Turner)
5. 03:38 PM - Re: Door Seals (Dan Charrois)
6. 04:14 PM - baggage net (Rick Lark)
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Subject: | Re: The (Ground) Plane Truth |
I think the operative word is =9Cshould=9D. I have a plane in my
hangar that is very nicely painted. However, the Paint shop painted over th
e data plate. It=99s almost impossible to read it. Then they put their
=9Cpainted by=9D sticker right next to the painted over data pl
ate. What should happen is not always what does happen.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse@saintaviation.com
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> On May 3, 2018, at 10:58 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Waste of time Les. If you properly installed the antenna with gasket and/o
r sealant
> the paint shop should properly mask the antenna, so it doesn't get painted
.
> The grounding will be unchanged. On most com antennas, the ground path is t
hrough
> the 3 or 4 screws that attach the antenna to the doubler you put under the
fuselage skin.
> The clean way to do that is to install nut plates on the doubler, then riv
et doubler to inside of fuselage skin.
> That way the ground is with the nutplates and solid via rivets to fuselage
.
> Good installs include a bead of sealant around the outside edge of the ant
enna.
> Good paint shops protect antennas throughout skin prep and painting.
> That said, be certain they protect the wheel bearings from pressure washin
g, or repack the bearings before the
> plane rolls out of the shop.
> Kelly
>
> Sent from my IBM-360 main frame
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>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 5:47 PM, kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> I'll be the first to admit that my knowledge of radio physics is exceptio
nally limited. This brings me to the question of ground planes. I am told th
at a ground plane does not require metal to metal contact with an antenna. I
s this correct? The reason I ask is I am wondering if I should un-install an
tennas prior to paint?
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>> Cheers
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>> Les
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Subject: | Re: Private Pilot Training |
No worries, I knew what you meant.
To me the rules are actually pretty clear, and the few workarounds
that there are, are also cut and dry, such as training for free.
I once said that if I won that big lottery, I'd love to buy about
10 RV-12's, and make a fleet of trainers and offer free flight
instruction to anyone who wanted to learn to fly. I figured if
you could subsidize the cost to get into the activity, there would
be a certain percentage of people who would drop out afterwards
because they couldn't really afford to fly, but that a healthy
percentage would continue on. And, I view the sheer number of
pilots and growing the pilot population to be our most urgent
issue. We need to get people to dream again, to get into the air,
and to see how fun and useful it is. At that point, those who
really have the dream will keep moving ahead, and that will
drive everything from airplane sales to avionics and even
improve todays politics.
I think it could be done, in all RV-12's, if done for no cost
to the trainee.
Then, we also need to foster more and more flying clubs. We have
precisely ZERO in my neck of the woods, and that would greatly
help drive more flying.
Now, if someone would just get me a winning lottery combination,
I'll get right on it.
Tim
On 05/03/2018 09:46 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> My comments were with regard to an independent CFI charging for his/her
> services with student in experimental.
> If there is no transfer of funds, AFAIK no issue. I know that certain
> very generous CFIs are literally giving of their
> time and aircraft to provide transition training without FAA/insurance
> involvement. I in fact benefited from
> one such very generous individual.
> If you don't want to be a sugar daddy, how about "Uncle"? 8^)
>
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I am getting ready to install door seals. Some have installed them on
the door openings and others have installed them on the doors
themselves. Is there any consensus on which option is better or is this
another primer war?
David
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Good analogy. IMHO technique and attention to detail are more important than the
brand of paint you use. Same thing for brand and placement of door seals.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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Not wanting to inflame any kind of war, and there are always "better ways" of doing
things, but I installed the stock Van's seals exactly as they describe and
have been really happy with them. I haven't noticed any leaks coming in, and
though I agonized a lot of what to do initially, now that they're in and the
plane has been flying for a bit more than a year, I honestly haven't given them
a second thought.
One thing I like about the seals on the door is that they lift out of the way when
the door is open and people are less likely to catch on them when getting
in and out. In particular, I've found that passengers with longer legs who jump
in before I tell them the "proper way" to do so often struggle to get their
legs in and if the seals were on the door openings they would definitely be catching
on them.
But of course, I've seen other RV-10s with seals on the frame and they look great.
I'm sure that you'll be happy with whatever you decide to do.
Dan
> On 2018-May-04, at 9:59 AM, David J. Fritzsche <dfritz@bpgsim.com> wrote:
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> I am getting ready to install door seals. Some have installed them on the door
openings and others have installed them on the doors themselves. Is there
any consensus on which option is better or is this another primer war?
>
> David
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>
>
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Dan Charrois
President, Syzygy Research & Technology
Phone: 780-961-2213
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Guys, I accidentally found a great cargo/baggage net for my RV10. I
previously owned a 2013 VW diesel Passat that came with a black cargo net.
The VW cargo net is the perfect size if your tie downs are in the bottom 4
corners of the baggage area. Even if your tie downs are elsewhere I think
the VW net would work great.
Rick
C-GDMH
#40956
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