---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/22/18: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:32 AM - Sun Visor (Vernon Franklin) 2. 09:51 AM - Re: Sun Visor (Phillip Perry) 3. 10:02 AM - Re: Sun Visor (Phil Yoder) 4. 10:17 AM - Re: Sun Visor (Jack Philips) 5. 10:38 AM - Re: Sun Visor (Tim Olson) 6. 01:16 PM - Re: Sun Visor (Bob Turner) 7. 01:27 PM - Re: Sun Visor (Kelly McMullen) 8. 01:45 PM - Jet Shades | Removable Tinted Panels Block UV/Glare/Heat While Flying! (Alan Mekler MD) 9. 04:09 PM - Re: Sun Visor (David Maib) 10. 06:12 PM - Re: Jet Shades | Removable Tinted Panels Block UV/Glare/Heat While Flying! (John Miller) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:02 AM PST US From: Vernon Franklin Subject: RV10-List: Sun Visor I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year. This is what I currently have: Shades While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield. I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors. I am really only finding two options out there. 1. Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200 2. Rosen + 3rd Axis - ~$520 Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced. Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest. 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en. Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for? What are you guys using? What would you recommend? -- Vernon Franklin ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:05 AM PST US From: Phillip Perry Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun Visor No issues with my Rosen=99s. Trouble free and I have never given any t hought to them failing. They just work as advertised, so the thought has n ever even crossed my mind. Out of sight, out of mind. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin w rote: > > I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last y ear. This is what I currently have: Shades > > While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, t hey are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the w ind shield. > > I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors. > I am really only finding two options out there. > Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200 > Rosen + 3rd Axis - ~$520 > > Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in p lace, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, et c. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced .. > > Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks o n the north face of Mount Everest. > > 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en. > > Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get w hat you pay for? > > What are you guys using? What would you recommend? > > -- > Vernon Franklin ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:26 AM PST US From: Phil Yoder Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun Visor You get what you pay for with Rosen=99s- but I=99m shocked that they are north of $500. But then, nothing surprises me anymore. Phil On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:57 PM Phillip Perry wrote : > No issues with my Rosen=99s. Trouble free and I have never given a ny > thought to them failing. They just work as advertised, so the thought > has never even crossed my mind. > > Out of sight, out of mind. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin > wrote: > > I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last > year. This is what I currently have: Shades > > > While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, > they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for > the wind shield. > > I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors. > I am really only finding two options out there. > > 1. Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200 > 2. Rosen + 3rd Axis > - > ~$520 > > > Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in > place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down , > etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be > replaced. > > Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks > on the north face of Mount Everest. > > 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en. > > Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get > what you pay for? > > What are you guys using? What would you recommend? > > > -- > Vernon Franklin > > -- Phil Yoder phil@philyoder.com \__________o-( )-o__________/ www.itsnotthatcomplex.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:24 AM PST US From: "Jack Philips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun Visor I have Rosen=99s on my Cessna 170B and like them so well I bought a set for my RV-10 project. If you go to SNF or OSH they do give a slight =9CShow Special=9D discount. Jack Phillips #40610 =93 about ready to put it on its gear Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Franklin Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:29 PM Subject: RV10-List: Sun Visor I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year. This is what I currently have: Shades While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield. I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors. I am really only finding two options out there. 1. Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200 2. Rosen Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced. Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest. 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en. Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for? What are you guys using? What would you recommend? -- Vernon Franklin ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun Visor From: Tim Olson I've had the Blue sky visors for many years now. There was a time when they didn't want to stay in place very well, but after tightening them up a bit they work fine for me. They're far cheaper, as you noted, but also lighter, and more compact and easy to fold out of the way. I agree that by all appearances the Rosen visors are built tougher and everything else. I just don't think that $520 has any real world way to justify that kind of price for a little bit of aluminum and brackets, and plexi, and once the price gets that high I get a little bit bothered to the point that I find it hard to support them. To many others it may be well worth it. To me, I've been happy with mine for much less cost. Your best bet is to visit a couple of planes and physically see them first hand to see what you find satisfactory. If you do go with Rosen, at least buy them at some show special price. Tim On 05/22/2018 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin wrote: > I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last > year. This is what I currently have: Shades > > > While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the > doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety > issue for the wind shield. > > I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors. > I am really only finding two options out there. > > 1. Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200 > 2. Rosen+ 3rd Axis > - > ~$520 > > > Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay > in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch > down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to > be replaced. > > Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan > monks on the north face of Mount Everest. > > 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en. > > Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you > get what you pay for? > > What are you guys using? What would you recommend? > > -- > Vernon Franklin ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:30 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sun Visor From: "Bob Turner" Okay guys. If you place any value on looks just skip this post. Ill pay airplane prices for airplane parts, but a sun visor? I took a piece of 2x4, drilled a hole thru it, cut it lengthwise so now I had two semi-circular holes, put it together with some bolts and wingnuts on the center post. Tension on the bolts adjusted so it slides up and down on the post with some force applied, but otherwise stays put. I think I put some felt or velco inside the hole, not sure. Two dowl rods extend out horizontally on each side. Attached to each rod is a green plastic visor from ACS with its suction cup removed ($15 iirc). These have pretty good optical quality. I can move them up/down, or side to side a bit, but no side window coverage. Rotate up and out of the way when not in use. Look like hell but they work. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480318#480318 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun Visor From: Kelly McMullen I agree with Tim. I bought mine at a Flymart, but believe they are the Blue Sky. I might have needed to adjust tension initially. I rarely move mine much from the straight ahead max shade position, which probably reduces wear and tear. Otherwise, just buy some static cling tinting material, cut into appropriate size/shape, and slap it up there. That is what I use for side windows. Kelly On 5/22/2018 10:36 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I've had the Blue sky visors for many years now. There was a time when > they didn't want to stay in place very well, but after tightening them > up a bit they work fine for me. They're far cheaper, as you noted, > but also lighter, and more compact and easy to fold out of the way. . To me, I've been > happy with mine for much less cost. Your best bet is to > visit a couple of planes and physically see them first hand to > see what you find satisfactory. If you do go with Rosen, at > least buy them at some show special price. > Tim > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:38 PM PST US From: Alan Mekler MD Subject: RV10-List: Jet Shades | Removable Tinted Panels Block UV/Glare/Heat While Flying! My friend has ordered these for his RV 10 theyre pricey will have to report how well they work https://jet-shades.com/ Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:38 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun Visor Im another happy Blue Sky customer. Coming up on 10 years and north of 1000 hours. I flew professionally with Rosens for decades and they are great. I looked at both when I was building. One thing I didnt particularly care for was the size of the Rosens. In my opinion, theyre too big for the airplane, when compared to Blue Sky. I adjust the tension screws once or twice a year, and have had no problems. I can even adjust them in flight with the short Phillips head I keep in the cockpit to open my oil door on the cowling. David Maib > On May 22, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > I've had the Blue sky visors for many years now. There was a time when > they didn't want to stay in place very well, but after tightening them > up a bit they work fine for me. They're far cheaper, as you noted, > but also lighter, and more compact and easy to fold out of the way. > I agree that by all appearances the Rosen visors are built tougher > and everything else. I just don't think that $520 has any real > world way to justify that kind of price for a little bit of aluminum > and brackets, and plexi, and once the price gets that high I get > a little bit bothered to the point that I find it hard to support > them. To many others it may be well worth it. To me, I've been > happy with mine for much less cost. Your best bet is to > visit a couple of planes and physically see them first hand to > see what you find satisfactory. If you do go with Rosen, at > least buy them at some show special price. > Tim > > >> On 05/22/2018 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin wrote: >> I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year. This is what I currently have: Shades >> While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield. >> I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors. >> I am really only finding two options out there. >> 1. Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200 >> 2. Rosen + 3rd Axis >> - >> ~$520 Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced. >> Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest. >> 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en. >> Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for? >> What are you guys using? What would you recommend? >> -- >> Vernon Franklin > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:12 PM PST US From: John Miller Subject: Re: RV10-List: Jet Shades | Removable Tinted Panels Block UV/Glare/Heat While Flying! How did he order for a 10? Their website does not mention ones for a 10. Grumpy > On May 22, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > > > My friend has ordered these for his RV 10 theyre pricey will have to report how well they work > https://jet-shades.com/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.