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1. 05:32 AM - Re: Re: Sun Visor (Tim Olson)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Sun Visor (Tim Olson)
3. 11:48 AM - Re: Sun Visor (Bob Turner)
4. 03:11 PM - First Conditional (Vernon Franklin)
5. 03:47 PM - Re: First Conditional (Bob Turner)
6. 03:53 PM - Re: First Conditional (Bob Turner)
7. 07:01 PM - Re: First Condition (Kelly McMullen)
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Ah sure. So it=99s there but just that the email viewers can=99
t see it.
That makes sense, thanks Lenny!
Tim
> On May 25, 2018, at 11:18 PM, Lenard Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrot
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> It does show on the web:
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> Lenny
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>> On May 25, 2018, at 11:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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>> Help! I see the photo. Posted on TinyPics. Any ideas?
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Bob,
That really isn=99t too bad for a one off at least. It could very eas
ily be improved on and probably end up being a pretty decent product that co
uld be mass produced for the RV10 without a lot of work.
A block of black Delrin for the block,
Made much smaller and cut to both clamp around the bar and hold the dowel al
l in one piece. Then a dowel made of the same or similar black plastic, or e
ven aluminum painted, and some nice smoked plexi attached, all with black sc
rews.
The only downside at that point over some of the others would be that by cen
ter mounting you can=99t swing them to the side window.
Anyway, with a little effort that could be tweaked and made to not even look
much like a DIY system.
The BlueSky ones may still be lighter, and swivel both ways and only require
one mounting hole though. So it=99s at least a more expensive but not
over the top option.
Tim
> On May 25, 2018, at 11:18 PM, Lenard Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrot
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> It does show on the web:
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> Lenny
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>> On May 25, 2018, at 11:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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>> Help! I see the photo. Posted on TinyPics. Any ideas?
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Thanks Tim. Main point I wanted to make was that the $8 each (I looked up the price)
tinted plexi from ACS is actually a good product to start from. I cant detect
any optical distortion in it. But the original suction cup mounting wont
hold inverted. I keep extra ones in the seat pocket with their suction cups still
attached, for myself and passengers to use on the side windows.
How do I make photos more easily visible?
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| Subject: | First Conditional |
My first year has flown by :) I am starting my conditional this week.
I found this RV conditional check list online that looks pretty thorough, I
thought I would share:
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B31MKmXjYxYqeWZhcHRlakZzNlE/view?usp=sharing
My main question for the group is in regards to logs. What is the wording
that I should use for the log entries when complete? Specifically, for the
Engine, Propeller and Aircraft logs.
Is it similar to an annual? For example: "I certify this XXX has been
inspected in accordance with a conditional inspection, and was determined
to be in an airworthy condition."
Thanks!
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Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: First Conditional |
I think you will find suggested wording in your operating limitations document.
These days the faa recommends you do not use the word airworthy, as that specifically
means Is in conformance with its type certificate. Of course EAB aircraft
dont have a type certificate.
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| Subject: | Re: First Conditional |
Also, while most people keep separate logbooks for engine, airframe, and prop,
there is no legal requirement to do so. One conditional inspection sign off (usually
in the airframe book) is all that is needed.
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Bob Turner
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| Subject: | Re: First Condition |
1. It is a condition inspection, not conditional.
2. Your operating limitations will tell you exactly what to do and what
language to use on the sign off.
3. You can use whatever checklist pleases you as long as it contains at
least the scope and detail of 14 CFR 43 Appendix D.
4. Your sign off will contain the these or similar words " I find this
aircraft to be in a *condition* for safe operation." That is why it is a
condition inspection.
I ass-ume you have obtained from your local FSDO a repairman's certificate
for your aircraft that permits you to sign off this inspection.
You must maintain "records" of maintenance and inspections. Whether those
take the form of logbook(s) or a three ring binder or a file folder does
not matter.
As Bob mentioned, there is no such thing as "airworthy" for an aircraft
that does not have an approved type certificate and type certificate data
sheet. Only aircraft that have a Standard Airworthiness Certificate on a
white piece of paper will meet that requirement. The fact that you have a
Special Airworthiness Certificate in the Experimental category with
operating limitations is your clue that it will never be "airworthy".
Kelly
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor
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On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
wrote:
> My first year has flown by :) I am starting my conditional this week.
>
> I found this RV conditional check list online that looks pretty thorough,
> I thought I would share:
>
> - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B31MKmXjYxYqeWZhcHRlakZzNlE
> /view?usp=sharing
>
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> My main question for the group is in regards to logs. What is the wording
> that I should use for the log entries when complete? Specifically, for the
> Engine, Propeller and Aircraft logs.
>
> Is it similar to an annual? For example: "I certify this XXX has been
> inspected in accordance with a conditional inspection, and was determined
> to be in an airworthy condition."
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Vernon Franklin
>
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