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1. 04:04 AM - Re: Re: Sun Visor (Bill Watson)
2. 04:18 AM - Re: Re: symmetrical panel and backup (Bill Watson)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: First Condition Inspection (Vernon Franklin)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: First Condition Inspection (Jack Philips)
5. 06:31 AM - Re: First Condition Inspection (Marcus Cooper)
6. 09:03 AM - Re: First Condition Inspection (David Saylor)
7. 11:09 AM - Re: First Condition Inspection (Vernon Franklin)
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I think a DIY/lower cost effort is good development.
I would also recommend the Blue Sky visors which I've installed and
flown with for 1,000 hours. Nice design, reasonable $$ but still
pricey. They work, well. However, do spend some time with the mounting
point. Things need to be square and tight - takes a bit of effort given
that nothing is tight or square around those confounded #$$%#!! doors.
With that said, this thread just caused me to blow off some $$$ on the
Rosens. I did not spend quite enough time with that single point mount
and now my co-pilot visor tends to sag in bumps. Both require a bit of
handling when setting them in extreme but very useful positions. I'm
tired of fooling with something that is always in sight and directly in
my line of vision. The 2 point mounts on the Rosens would seem to
alleviate my mounting issue. Otherwise I hope they work in a way
commensurate with the price.
At some point, I will have a pair of used Blue Skies that work to get
rid of.
Bill "sometimes buying plane-priced stuff for Tigressa just feels good"
Watson
(or maybe reading Flying's review of the new G500 effected me in ways
I'm not completely aware of)
On 5/23/2018 11:16 AM, Greg McFarlane wrote:
>
> Ive got the visors that Blue Sky make specifically for the RV10 and would recommend
them. They are made well and they fit and work extremely well, and look
good. Fitting was simple with each side only needing one hole in the pillar and
secured by the one screw. After the initial fit I applied release agent to
the square mounting peg and built up around the peg about 3/4inch with a epoxy/flox
mix which gave more security and support to the mount and also a more finished
look, IMHO Cheers from Western Australia
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480345#480345
>
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| Subject: | Re: symmetrical panel and backup |
Venturi icing when, not if; For those not buying that possibility given
the lack of a venturi, think insects in the pitot.
Normally one would know of any blockage at takeoff, as I did 2 flight
ago. However a few years ago I had sporadic problem with 'something'
that would cause my AP to disco because of stall speed detection
(??!!). Finally I had a simple clear cut 'no airspeed' indication while
in IMC. I declared and landed at nearest airport.
What happened? I had a dead bug or bugs in my always-on heated pitot.
They weren't completely blocking things but when I ran thru some
moisture they would swell and block my airspeed. Once in the dry, and
possibly due to the heat, the insect carcass mass would shrink and
operations would return to normal.
Conclusion; GPS speed is nice to have too.
Bill "still training to ALWAYS put the pitot cover on, even at home in
the hangar" Watson
On 5/30/2015 4:52 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> What you choose for backup may be dependent on whether your
> pitot/static lines run to ADAHRS in rear of plane (dynon Skyview) or
> if it is at the instrument panel. The GRT mini requires hook up to
> those lines, and you get benefit of actual airspeed and altitude.
> Dynon D1/D2 needs no hookup, but only gives you GPS derived ground
> speed and GPS track and GPS altitude.
>
> All better than nothing, but not quite as good as barometric and pitot
> derived numbers.
>
> Huge change in redundancy from when I was flying in non-radar areas
> with venturi powered gyros and electric turn coordinator, with single
> nav/com/ils and single ADF.
> That gave some blood pressure rise when the venturis iced up. Key
> word is when, not if. Fortunately the old AN gyros would operate down
> to less than 1" of vacuum, so you got warning when the vacuum started
> trending below 4"
> All with one alternator and one battery for electrons.
> On 5/30/2015 8:39 AM, Rocketman1988 wrote:
>>
>> "... don't think I need the same level of redundancy in my RV-10, but
>> I really do want something like the GRT mini..."
>>
>> Exactly. I am current;y looking at an AFS EFIS with the GRT Mini
>> backup. Seems like a good compromise. If the weather is so bad that
>> I need triple redundant systems, then I will probably just delay a
>> bit...or go on the airlines...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442808#442808
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: First Condition Inspection |
So, I was on the phone with builder support yesterday, trying to work out a
game plan. As they had not seen a crack this bad before on the rear spar
webbing.
He asked me to go in and clean the area the best I could with a shop towel,
and send some better pictures to them for further analysis.
Word of advice, wipe down any cracks you find straight away. It will make
sure you don't have a panic attack and worry all day for nothing.
Yup, it was a dusty cob web...
While slightly embarrassed, I am so relieved it was nothing. This is one
of those life lessons I am going to share with the grand-kids one day.
Vernon
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:58 PM David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good eye! I've looked at this on a couple different planes. No signs
> yet. I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be an RV-10 thing.
>
> What did you use to see it? Just a light and mirror, camera, endoscope on
> your phone? Nice picture too. Thanks for the post.
>
> --Dave
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:47 AM Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry everyone, I did not mean to start a primer war over a log book
>> entry. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though. It seems the Operating
>> Limits is the best course of action on this one.
>>
>> The inspection went well, took a bit longer than I anticipated.
>>
>> Unfortunately, SB 16-03-28 jumped up and bit me. I have cracking in my
>> rear wing spar at the hinge attach point. Of course it had to happen a
>> month after I got out of the paint shop. *sigh*
>>
>> See the crack here:
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/8G7paTvP6U3sZe5LXt4PTWF9w6YFunOYR2PD7qT8BNh
>>
>> I am surprised it happened after only a year of flying, I guess to many
>> Lomcovaks and Crazy Ivans. JK.
>>
>> If you haven't done this SB, I definitely encourage you to get it done.
>> If it can happen after only a year of flying, I imagine that most of the
>> older fleet might definitely start to have these stress cracks.
>>
>> Has anyone else had to do this repair yet? This one looks like a real
>> pain, not looking forward to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vernon Franklin
>>
>
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Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | First Condition Inspection |
Vernon, looking at the phot I can see why you were concerned. What kind
of spider lays a web from the center of one rivet to the center of
another?
Good eye, and glad it was nothing.
Jack Phillips
#40610 =93 Just hung the engine mount this morning
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon
Franklin
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Condition Inspection
So, I was on the phone with builder support yesterday, trying to work
out a game plan. As they had not seen a crack this bad before on the
rear spar webbing.
He asked me to go in and clean the area the best I could with a shop
towel, and send some better pictures to them for further analysis.
Word of advice, wipe down any cracks you find straight away. It will
make sure you don't have a panic attack and worry all day for nothing.
Yup, it was a dusty cob web...
While slightly embarrassed, I am so relieved it was nothing. This is
one of those life lessons I am going to share with the grand-kids one
day.
Vernon
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:58 PM David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com
<mailto:saylor.dave@gmail.com> > wrote:
Good eye! I've looked at this on a couple different planes. No signs
yet. I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be an RV-10 thing.
What did you use to see it? Just a light and mirror, camera, endoscope
on your phone? Nice picture too. Thanks for the post.
--Dave
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:47 AM Vernon Franklin
<vernon.franklin@gmail.com <mailto:vernon.franklin@gmail.com> > wrote:
Sorry everyone, I did not mean to start a primer war over a log book
entry. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though. It seems the
Operating Limits is the best course of action on this one.
The inspection went well, took a bit longer than I anticipated.
Unfortunately, SB 16-03-28 jumped up and bit me. I have cracking in my
rear wing spar at the hinge attach point. Of course it had to happen a
month after I got out of the paint shop. *sigh*
See the crack here:
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/8G7paTvP6U3sZe5LXt4PTWF9w6YFunOYR2PD7
qT8BNh
I am surprised it happened after only a year of flying, I guess to many
Lomcovaks and Crazy Ivans. JK.
If you haven't done this SB, I definitely encourage you to get it done.
If it can happen after only a year of flying, I imagine that most of the
older fleet might definitely start to have these stress cracks.
Has anyone else had to do this repair yet? This one looks like a real
pain, not looking forward to it.
--
Vernon Franklin
--
Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: First Condition Inspection |
Whew! I=99ll bet you haven=99t felt this good in along while. G
lad to hear it was nothing.
Marcus
> On May 30, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com> w
rote:
> Do not archive
> So, I was on the phone with builder support yesterday, trying to work out a
game plan. As they had not seen a crack this bad before on the rear spar w
ebbing.
> He asked me to go in and clean the area the best I could with a shop towel
, and send some better pictures to them for further analysis.
>
> Word of advice, wipe down any cracks you find straight away. It will make
sure you don't have a panic attack and worry all day for nothing.
> Yup, it was a dusty cob web...
>
> While slightly embarrassed, I am so relieved it was nothing. This is one o
f those life lessons I am going to share with the grand-kids one day.
>
> Vernon
>
>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:58 PM David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wro
te:
>> Good eye! I've looked at this on a couple different planes. No signs ye
t. I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be an RV-10 thing.
>>
>> What did you use to see it? Just a light and mirror, camera, endoscope o
n your phone? Nice picture too. Thanks for the post.
>>
>> --Dave
>>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:47 AM Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.c
om> wrote:
>>> Sorry everyone, I did not mean to start a primer war over a log book ent
ry. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though. It seems the Operating Lim
its is the best course of action on this one.
>>>
>>> The inspection went well, took a bit longer than I anticipated.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, SB 16-03-28 jumped up and bit me. I have cracking in my r
ear wing spar at the hinge attach point. Of course it had to happen a month
after I got out of the paint shop. *sigh*
>>>
>>> See the crack here: https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/8G7paTvP6U3sZe5L
Xt4PTWF9w6YFunOYR2PD7qT8BNh
>>>
>>> I am surprised it happened after only a year of flying, I guess to many L
omcovaks and Crazy Ivans. JK.
>>>
>>> If you haven't done this SB, I definitely encourage you to get it done.
If it can happen after only a year of flying, I imagine that most of the ol
der fleet might definitely start to have these stress cracks.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had to do this repair yet? This one looks like a real p
ain, not looking forward to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Vernon Franklin
>
>
> --
> Vernon Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: First Condition Inspection |
"What kind of spider lays a web from the center of one rivet to the center
of another?"
Crack widow?
On Wed, May 30, 2018, 06:23 Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote:
> Vernon, looking at the phot I can see why you were concerned. What kind
> of spider lays a web from the center of one rivet to the center of anothe
r?
>
>
> Good eye, and glad it was nothing.
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> #40610 =93 Just hung the engine mount this morning
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vernon Franklin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2018 8:39 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: First Condition Inspection
>
>
> So, I was on the phone with builder support yesterday, trying to work out
> a game plan. As they had not seen a crack this bad before on the rear sp
ar
> webbing.
>
> He asked me to go in and clean the area the best I could with a shop
> towel, and send some better pictures to them for further analysis.
>
>
> Word of advice, wipe down any cracks you find straight away. It will mak
e
> sure you don't have a panic attack and worry all day for nothing.
>
> Yup, it was a dusty cob web...
>
>
> While slightly embarrassed, I am so relieved it was nothing. This is one
> of those life lessons I am going to share with the grand-kids one day.
>
>
> Vernon
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:58 PM David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Good eye! I've looked at this on a couple different planes. No signs
> yet. I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be an RV-10 thing.
>
>
> What did you use to see it? Just a light and mirror, camera, endoscope o
n
> your phone? Nice picture too. Thanks for the post.
>
>
> --Dave
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:47 AM Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.co
m>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry everyone, I did not mean to start a primer war over a log book
> entry. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though. It seems the Operati
ng
> Limits is the best course of action on this one.
>
>
> The inspection went well, took a bit longer than I anticipated.
>
>
> Unfortunately, SB 16-03-28 jumped up and bit me. I have cracking in my
> rear wing spar at the hinge attach point. Of course it had to happen a
> month after I got out of the paint shop. *sigh*
>
>
> See the crack here:
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/8G7paTvP6U3sZe5LXt4PTWF9w6YFunOYR2PD7
qT8BNh
>
>
> I am surprised it happened after only a year of flying, I guess to many
> Lomcovaks and Crazy Ivans. JK.
>
>
> If you haven't done this SB, I definitely encourage you to get it done.
> If it can happen after only a year of flying, I imagine that most of the
> older fleet might definitely start to have these stress cracks.
>
>
> Has anyone else had to do this repair yet? This one looks like a real
> pain, not looking forward to it.
>
>
> --
>
> Vernon Franklin
>
>
> --
>
> Vernon Franklin
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Condition Inspection |
https://media.giphy.com/media/SUeUCn53naadO/giphy.gif
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:07 AM David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote
:
> "What kind of spider lays a web from the center of one rivet to the
> center of another?"
>
> Crack widow?
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 06:23 Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote
:
>
>> Vernon, looking at the phot I can see why you were concerned. What kind
>> of spider lays a web from the center of one rivet to the center of anoth
er?
>>
>>
>>
>> Good eye, and glad it was nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>>
>> #40610 =93 Just hung the engine mount this morning
>>
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vernon Franklin
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2018 8:39 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: First Condition Inspection
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I was on the phone with builder support yesterday, trying to work ou
t
>> a game plan. As they had not seen a crack this bad before on the rear s
par
>> webbing.
>>
>> He asked me to go in and clean the area the best I could with a shop
>> towel, and send some better pictures to them for further analysis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Word of advice, wipe down any cracks you find straight away. It will
>> make sure you don't have a panic attack and worry all day for nothing.
>>
>> Yup, it was a dusty cob web...
>>
>>
>>
>> While slightly embarrassed, I am so relieved it was nothing. This is on
e
>> of those life lessons I am going to share with the grand-kids one day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Vernon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:58 PM David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good eye! I've looked at this on a couple different planes. No signs
>> yet. I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be an RV-10 thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> What did you use to see it? Just a light and mirror, camera, endoscope
>> on your phone? Nice picture too. Thanks for the post.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:47 AM Vernon Franklin <
>> vernon.franklin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry everyone, I did not mean to start a primer war over a log book
>> entry. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though. It seems the Operat
ing
>> Limits is the best course of action on this one.
>>
>>
>>
>> The inspection went well, took a bit longer than I anticipated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, SB 16-03-28 jumped up and bit me. I have cracking in my
>> rear wing spar at the hinge attach point. Of course it had to happen a
>> month after I got out of the paint shop. *sigh*
>>
>>
>>
>> See the crack here:
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/8G7paTvP6U3sZe5LXt4PTWF9w6YFunOYR2PD
7qT8BNh
>>
>>
>>
>> I am surprised it happened after only a year of flying, I guess to many
>> Lomcovaks and Crazy Ivans. JK.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you haven't done this SB, I definitely encourage you to get it done.
>> If it can happen after only a year of flying, I imagine that most of the
>> older fleet might definitely start to have these stress cracks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone else had to do this repair yet? This one looks like a real
>> pain, not looking forward to it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Vernon Franklin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Vernon Franklin
>>
>
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Vernon Franklin
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