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1. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Antenna locations (parish)
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3. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: Antenna locations (Jesse Saint)
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna locations |
It=99s certainly true that in some places the ILS minimums are a bit l
ower. However, LPV approaches regularly have minimums as low as ILS serving t
he same runway. Not true with RNAV or LNAV/VNAV minimums, but LPV is a diffe
rent animal. Given the choice, if all things are equal, I=99d rather d
o the LPV approach. I do, however, have dual ILS capability in my airplane, p
ractice setting up and shooting ILS approaches, and would be uncomfortable w
ithout ILS capability in my airplane. I still consider it necessary for full
IFR capability.
As Stein says, =9Cmy $.02 worth.=9D
David Maib
> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:35 PM, parish <parish@parishmoffitt.com> wrote:
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> Several years ago I had gone into Tallahassee in a CRJ200. The flight deck
angle is quite low on that airplane. Delta went around twice in the MD80 an
d we got right in(barely and right at minimums). The difference in flight de
ck angle was the difference between landing and going around that day appara
ntly. An RNAV would never work in this case and even 20 feet can make a diff
erence between landing and going someplace else.
>
> I always say it is better to have it and not need it rather than to need i
t and not have it!
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
> Date: 7/31/18 12:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Antenna locations
>
>
> Why ILS?
> 1. Keep in practice.
> 2. Sometimes the minimums are a bit lower and it matters. Some time ago I t
ook a (instrument) student to Chico (KCIC), planning the RNAV(gps) there. Bu
t ceilings lowered to 200=C3=A2=C2=C2=99. GPS minimums were 300=C3=A2=C2
=C2=99. ILS got us in.
>
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> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=481984#481984
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna locations |
Another point is that few small airports have an ILS on both ends of a runwa
y, but if they have an ILS, they often have LPV=99s at both ends. With
winds not favoring the ILS runway, LPV minimums are hugely lower than ILS c
ircling minimums.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 5, 2018, at 8:55 PM, David Maib <dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
>
> It=99s certainly true that in some places the ILS minimums are a bit
lower. However, LPV approaches regularly have minimums as low as ILS servin
g the same runway. Not true with RNAV or LNAV/VNAV minimums, but LPV is a di
fferent animal. Given the choice, if all things are equal, I=99d rathe
r do the LPV approach. I do, however, have dual ILS capability in my airplan
e, practice setting up and shooting ILS approaches, and would be uncomfortab
le without ILS capability in my airplane. I still consider it necessary for f
ull IFR capability.
> As Stein says, =9Cmy $.02 worth.=9D
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> David Maib
>
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>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:35 PM, parish <parish@parishmoffitt.com> wrote:
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>> Several years ago I had gone into Tallahassee in a CRJ200. The flight dec
k angle is quite low on that airplane. Delta went around twice in the MD80 a
nd we got right in(barely and right at minimums). The difference in flight d
eck angle was the difference between landing and going around that day appar
antly. An RNAV would never work in this case and even 20 feet can make a dif
ference between landing and going someplace else.
>>
>> I always say it is better to have it and not need it rather than to need i
t and not have it!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>> Date: 7/31/18 12:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Antenna locations
>>
>>
>> Why ILS?
>> 1. Keep in practice.
>> 2. Sometimes the minimums are a bit lower and it matters. Some time ago I
took a (instrument) student to Chico (KCIC), planning the RNAV(gps) there. B
ut ceilings lowered to 200=C3=A2=C2=C2=99. GPS minimums were 300=C3=A2=C2
=C2=99. ILS got us in.
>>
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>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
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