---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/06/19: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: RV-10's (Jack Philips) 2. 05:03 AM - Re: RV-10's (Jack Philips) 3. 07:40 AM - Re: RV-10's (Kelly McMullen) 4. 08:13 AM - Re: RV-10's (Jack Philips) 5. 02:33 PM - Re: RV-10's (Bob Turner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:45 AM PST US From: "Jack Philips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10's So THAT's what those little magnets were for! I'm one of those that got the magnets with no instructions. As I said earlier, I just sanded the grey off in the area of the brackets to be able to see through the fiberglass. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 9:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10's A couple of comments: You should have received some small spherical magnets, specifically to help locate the holes in the dark wheel pants. I *heard* that some builders received the magnets but with no instructions on what they were for. My 2010 QB wing also had an aileron alignment issue (mine was 1/16" too high). Vans sold undrilled mounting brackets just for this purpose. Are you saying there is now no way to fix aileron height issues? -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488564#488564 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:45 AM PST US From: "Jack Philips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10's Why didn't you just sand the grey off the wheelpants so you could see through the fiberglass? Thats what I did. Jack Phillips Kit # 40610 (I'm a little slow. But now in the priming/painting stage) Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doc Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 7:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10's Fellows: Some comments about our latest RV-10 Build (serial # 41862). We built our first RV-10 (serial # 41087) in 2010-11. The first one flew perfectly "off-the-line". Its doors, fairings, plexiglass, and wings fit very well. A real beauty. Our second one built this past year was a totally different story. It had a misshapen canopy which required adding epoxy with milled fiber to get the windshield to fit. The doors did not fit the canopy well at all, requiring epoxy build-up around the doors. The wheel fairings are coated dark gray so one cannot shine a light through them to locate their mounting holes (what a challenge to guess where to drill -- epoxied several guess holes). The left aileron is 1/8 inch low (below a straight line along the top of the wing). This makes the right wind heavy (see Van's "Heavy Wing Correction"). The aileron hinges are now riveted on (since 2012) and not bolted on like our serial # 41087. This makes correcting the aileron height impossible. The only practical way to correct a "Heavy Wing" is to mount a wedge trim under the aileron of the Lite Wing (trial and error as to how much, etc.). We have been very disappointed with the change in aileron design, coating the wheel pants, and poor quality control of the canopy molding. Having built an older model 10 (before 2012) and a late model 10, I know I would not have the patience to build another 10. Builders, be prepared for a lot of frustration but hang in there. It can be done with a lot of ingenuity and extra effort. Doc N123CV and N784DC ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:26 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10's There doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency in what Van's supplies. My wheel pants were unfinished fiberglass. 40866, finish kit obtained in 2010. Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 5:07 AM Jack Philips wrote: > > > Why didn't you just sand the grey off the wheelpants so you could see > through the fiberglass? That=99s what I did. > > Jack Phillips > Kit # 40610 (I'm a little slow. But now in the priming/painting stage) > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doc > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 7:52 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: RV-10's > > > Fellows: > > Some comments about our latest RV-10 Build (serial # 41862). We built ou r > first RV-10 (serial # 41087) in 2010-11. The first one flew perfectly > "off-the-line". Its doors, fairings, plexiglass, and wings fit very well .. > A real beauty. Our second one built this past year was a totally differe nt > story. It had a misshapen canopy which required adding epoxy with milled > fiber to get the windshield to fit. The doors did not fit the canopy wel l > at all, requiring epoxy build-up around the doors. The wheel fairings ar e > coated dark gray so one cannot shine a light through them to locate their > mounting holes (what a challenge to guess where to drill -- epoxied sever al > guess holes). The left aileron is 1/8 inch low (below a straight line > along the top of the wing). > This makes the right wind heavy (see Van's "Heavy Wing Correction"). > The aileron hinges are now riveted on (since 2012) and not bolted on like > our serial # 41087. This makes correcting the aileron height impossible. > The only practical way to correct a "Heavy Wing" is to mount a wedge trim > under the aileron of the Lite Wing (trial and error as to how much, etc.) .. > > We have been very disappointed with the change in aileron design, coating > the wheel pants, and poor quality control of the canopy molding. Having > built an older model 10 (before 2012) and a late model 10, I know I would > not have the patience to build another 10. Builders, be prepared for a lo t > of frustration but hang in there. It can be done with a lot of ingenuity > and extra effort. > > Doc N123CV and N784DC > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:36 AM PST US From: "Jack Philips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10's My finish kit wasn=99t bought until 2017 Jack Phillips From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 10:39 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10's There doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency in what Van's supplies. My wheel pants were unfinished fiberglass. 40866, finish kit obtained in 2010. Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 5:07 AM Jack Philips > wrote: > Why didn't you just sand the grey off the wheelpants so you could see through the fiberglass? That=99s what I did. Jack Phillips Kit # 40610 (I'm a little slow. But now in the priming/painting stage) Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Doc Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 7:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10's > Fellows: Some comments about our latest RV-10 Build (serial # 41862). We built our first RV-10 (serial # 41087) in 2010-11. The first one flew perfectly "off-the-line". Its doors, fairings, plexiglass, and wings fit very well. A real beauty. Our second one built this past year was a totally different story. It had a misshapen canopy which required adding epoxy with milled fiber to get the windshield to fit. The doors did not fit the canopy well at all, requiring epoxy build-up around the doors. The wheel fairings are coated dark gray so one cannot shine a light through them to locate their mounting holes (what a challenge to guess where to drill -- epoxied several guess holes). The left aileron is 1/8 inch low (below a straight line along the top of the wing). This makes the right wind heavy (see Van's "Heavy Wing Correction"). The aileron hinges are now riveted on (since 2012) and not bolted on like our serial # 41087. This makes correcting the aileron height impossible. The only practical way to correct a "Heavy Wing" is to mount a wedge trim under the aileron of the Lite Wing (trial and error as to how much, etc.). We have been very disappointed with the change in aileron design, coating the wheel pants, and poor quality control of the canopy molding. Having built an older model 10 (before 2012) and a late model 10, I know I would not have the patience to build another 10. Builders, be prepared for a lot of frustration but hang in there. It can be done with a lot of ingenuity and extra effort. Doc N123CV and N784DC -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:42 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10's From: "Bob Turner" Kelly McMullen wrote: > There doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency in what Van's supplies. > -- Ha. My early 2008 QB fuselage came with some parts for the original fuel selector valve (little brass handle), and some parts for the newer lift before turning, large aluminum pointer valve. Until I figured this out I was really confused. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488583#488583 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.