---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/12/19: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:52 AM - Re: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 (Kelly McMullen) 2. 07:03 AM - Re: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 (Jim Combs) 3. 09:50 AM - Re: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 (Tim Olson) 4. 10:09 AM - Garmin 496 replacement (Albert) 5. 10:15 AM - Garmin 496 eplacement (Albert) 6. 10:34 AM - Re: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 (Tim Olson) 7. 10:37 AM - Re: Garmin 496 replacement (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:27 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K. There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it. Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles. Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs wrote: > I am putting a new engine in my -10. I have removed my C4B5 version. > Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has? > > Specifics: > > Lycoming IO-540 C4B5 > 5874.54 hrs TT > 1955.54 hrs SMOH > 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder) > > Includes: > Airflow Performance fuel injection system > LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1) > Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition > RV-10 Baffles > > Does Not Include: > Starter > Alternator > Prop Governor > > Thanks, Jim C > N312F, 1200 Hours > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:29 AM PST US From: Jim Combs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 So I bought this engine in 2008 and had the fuel system overhauled and added five new cylinders. Knowing it was a high time engine, I put money away over the last ten years to buy a brand new engine. I put a deposit on a Titan IO-540 about 4 years ago. They kept the quoted price to me and this last year they built up the engine. It included dual Lightspeed ignition, cold air induction, roller tappets at a price below what I could get thru Vans. I have been doing oil changes at 50 hour intervals with oil reports. Titan finally wanted to deliver the engine and this engine was at BO. So time for a switch. I am making everything firewall forward "New". New baffles and any related parts that needed changing out have been replaced. So I have this engine and looking to recycle it. I was having an oil leak but pretty sure it was the prop governor. That is out for an overhaul to go on the new engine. Compression numbers are good. but I would assume someone might continue to use the new cylinders? I don't know, I am not an engine expert. Hence the question about the value of this engine. Jim C N312F On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost a pprox. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K. > There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it. > Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel syste m, ignition and baffles. > > Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs wrote: >> >> I am putting a new engine in my -10. I have removed my C4B5 version. >> Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has? >> >> Specifics: >> >> Lycoming IO-540 C4B5 >> 5874.54 hrs TT >> 1955.54 hrs SMOH >> 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder) >> >> Includes: >> Airflow Performance fuel injection system >> LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1) >> Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition >> RV-10 Baffles >> >> Does Not Include: >> Starter >> Alternator >> Prop Governor >> >> Thanks, Jim C >> N312F, 1200 Hours ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 From: Tim Olson Hi Jim, I'm almost in the same boat as you. I've been putting away money for a new engine as I fly, and this year I ordered a new Titan engine. It's not due until mid-2020, and I'm only at 1450 hours right now on mine that was built zero time to new limits when I got it. I just figured now is a good time to order one because in my case, someone else who's building can still get a few hundred or maybe even 1,000 hours out of this one, but I can finally cash in my brand new engine discount and the next one will keep me going for perhaps the rest of my flying years. So I'll be curious as to how your sale goes. Mine has enough time left on it that I'm hoping to get somewhere around a 1/2 share of the >$50K that the new one costs. Hopefully the new one will be as reliable as this one has been. Tim On 12/12/2019 9:02 AM, Jim Combs wrote: > So I bought this engine in 2008 and had the fuel system overhauled and > added five new cylinders. Knowing it was a high time engine, I put > money away over the last ten years to buy a brand new engine. I put a > deposit on a Titan IO-540 about 4 years ago. They kept the quoted > price to me and this last year they built up the engine. It included > dual Lightspeed ignition, cold air induction, roller tappets at a > price below what I could get thru Vans. I have been doing oil changes > at 50 hour intervals with oil reports. Titan finally wanted to > deliver the engine and this engine was at BO. So time for a switch. > I am making everything firewall forward "New". New baffles and any > related parts that needed changing out have been replaced. So I have > this engine and looking to recycle it. > > I was having an oil leak but pretty sure it was the prop governor. > That is out for an overhaul to go on the new engine. Compression > numbers are good. but I would assume someone might continue to use the > new cylinders? I don't know, I am not an engine expert. Hence the > question about the value of this engine. > > Jim C > N312F > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Kelly McMullen wrote: >> I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K. >> There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it. >> Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles. >> >> Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs wrote: >>> I am putting a new engine in my -10. I have removed my C4B5 version. >>> Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has? >>> >>> Specifics: >>> >>> Lycoming IO-540 C4B5 >>> 5874.54 hrs TT >>> 1955.54 hrs SMOH >>> 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder) >>> >>> Includes: >>> Airflow Performance fuel injection system >>> LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1) >>> Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition >>> RV-10 Baffles >>> >>> Does Not Include: >>> Starter >>> Alternator >>> Prop Governor >>> >>> Thanks, Jim C >>> N312F, 1200 Hours ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:23 AM PST US From: "Albert" Subject: RV10-List: Garmin 496 replacement My Garmin 496 and/or the battery seem to be NFG. I want to replace it since it's the input to my autopilot. I don't want to rework the panel to install a larger unit. Is there something else that fits that same hole? I've tried buying replacement batteries but lots don't fit or don't work. Albert Gardner RV10 N991RV Yuma AZ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:28 AM PST US From: "Albert" Subject: RV10-List: Garmin 496 eplacement As additional information, I know there are newer and better gps units available but I want to put it in the same panel hole. Since I use ipad/foreflight to fly, VFR only and I just need an input to my autopilot. Albert Gardner RV10 N991RV Yuma AZ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 From: Tim Olson Sorry, I see you said "Titan". I got a Lycoming Thunderbolt. Just wanted to make sure I spoke correctly. Tim On 12/12/2019 9:02 AM, Jim Combs wrote: > So I bought this engine in 2008 and had the fuel system overhauled and > added five new cylinders. Knowing it was a high time engine, I put > money away over the last ten years to buy a brand new engine. I put a > deposit on a Titan IO-540 about 4 years ago. They kept the quoted > price to me and this last year they built up the engine. It included > dual Lightspeed ignition, cold air induction, roller tappets at a > price below what I could get thru Vans. I have been doing oil changes > at 50 hour intervals with oil reports. Titan finally wanted to > deliver the engine and this engine was at BO. So time for a switch. > I am making everything firewall forward "New". New baffles and any > related parts that needed changing out have been replaced. So I have > this engine and looking to recycle it. > > I was having an oil leak but pretty sure it was the prop governor. > That is out for an overhaul to go on the new engine. Compression > numbers are good. but I would assume someone might continue to use the > new cylinders? I don't know, I am not an engine expert. Hence the > question about the value of this engine. > > Jim C > N312F > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Kelly McMullen wrote: >> I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K. >> There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it. >> Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles. >> >> Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs wrote: >>> I am putting a new engine in my -10. I have removed my C4B5 version. >>> Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has? >>> >>> Specifics: >>> >>> Lycoming IO-540 C4B5 >>> 5874.54 hrs TT >>> 1955.54 hrs SMOH >>> 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder) >>> >>> Includes: >>> Airflow Performance fuel injection system >>> LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1) >>> Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition >>> RV-10 Baffles >>> >>> Does Not Include: >>> Starter >>> Alternator >>> Prop Governor >>> >>> Thanks, Jim C >>> N312F, 1200 Hours ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:38 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin 496 replacement Albert, buy a 795.... it's a fantastic unit.=C2- Half the amout we both paid for the 496.=C2- Shouldn't need=C2- too much larger opening.=C2- Don'tbuy the 796.=C2- IIRC the 795 can be mounted either horizontal or v ertically.Don Mc On Thursday, December 12, 2019, 12:19:45 PM CST, Albert wrote: My Garmin 496 and/or the battery seem to be NFG. I want to replace it since it's the input to my autopilot. I don't want to rework the panel to install a larger unit. Is there something else that fits that same hole? I've tried buying replacement batteries but lots don't fit or=C2- don't work. Albert Gardner RV10 N991RV Yuma AZ =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. 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