RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/03/21


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:21 AM - Re: When to service the propeller? (Bob Leffler)
     2. 06:31 AM - Re: When to service the propeller? (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 07:43 AM - Re: When to service the propeller? (Lenard Iszak)
     4. 09:24 AM - Re: When to service the propeller? (William Greenley)
     5. 03:03 PM - Re: When to service the propeller? (Tim Lewis)
     6. 04:52 PM - TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Tim Olson)
     7. 05:18 PM - Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Richard Gurley)
     8. 05:19 PM - TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Richard McBride)
     9. 06:32 PM - Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Tim Lewis)
    10. 08:38 PM - Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Jesse Saint)
    11. 08:53 PM - Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Tim Olson)
    12. 08:54 PM - Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (David Saylor)
    13. 09:09 PM - Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:21:34 AM PST US
    From: Bob Leffler <bob@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Re: When to service the propeller?
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    Time: 06:31:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: When to service the propeller?
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    The only one I found is: https://www.skygeek.com/nyco-gn-148-blue-grease-400-gram-cartridge.html $23 On 1/3/2021 4:20 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: > Heres a photo of the new grease Hartzell is now using. It appears > that its only available through Hartzell authorized service centers. > The shop I used wanted $20~$25 per tube. > > It would be nice if one of the major retailers would start stocking. I > suspect it may take some time for them to begin aware of the change and > demand to warrant stocking. > > If anyone finds alternate sources, please let the list know. > > Bob > > Image.jpeg > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Bob Leffler > <bob@thelefflers.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:53:09 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? > I was surprised with that as well when I had my prop serviced recently. > The shop included a tube of the new grease. I have yet to find a > source for the new grease other than a prop shop. > > Anyone have a solution for stopping the grease from breaking down and > leaking from the gun during hot weather? With just six pumps per > condition inspection, it would be nice to use a tube on more than one > inspection. > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Tim Olson > <Tim@MyRV10.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:26:10 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? > > On that note,I read recently that hartzell started using a new grease > not long ago. So if you have a new prop or get an overhaul or reseal, > make sure to verify the type of grease because you may need to order > that special type of grease from there on. > Tim > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: >> >> >> As for the grease in the prop, you should use whatever the prop shop installed when it was last reassembled, and there should be a sticker identifying that grease. Most until recent years used Aeroshell 6. >> >>> On 12/28/2020 10:50 PM, Lenny Iszak wrote: >>> I had mine (2009 prop with 700 hrs) overhauled a few months ago at Palm Beach Aircraft Propeller, for $2845 + tax. >>> The seals in it where in pretty bad shape, it was covering my windshield with grease after every flight. A pretty good sign that it needed some TLC. >>> Btw, Hartzell recommends a new grease now, so if you do get an overhaul, grab a couple of tubes from the prop shop, as its otherwise unobtanium from the popular aircraft parts stores. >>> Lenny >>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Rob, >>>> You're not alone. I am overdue on my Hartzell also. Nearly 15 years. >>>> But, I did have mine re-sealed a few years ago. I am sure that your >>>> prop will still be functioning fine a while from now, but, I'd say >>>> plan on a 10 year at least. >>>> >>>> I've had mine off a few times for various reasons. Inside the >>>> crank cavity into the prop hub, you've almost certainly got a lot of >>>> gray paste build-up that happens over time. I've cleaned mine >>>> out whenever the prop has been off. This winter I plan to get >>>> the prop overhauled, and it will be interesting to hear how it >>>> goes. I agree that 6 years and 550 hours would seem pretty short. >>>> To me it's like how Lycoming recommends an engine rebuild in 12 years >>>> or 2000 hours. But, there still is a point where an overhaul is due >>>> and I think I'm there. I intended to do it when I replaced the engine >>>> this summer, but this wasn't a good year for it $$$. >>>> >>>> I have heard overhauls run $2500, but the place near me charges >>>> $3000. Would be nice to hear what kinds of quotes other people have >>>> gotten, and where they recommend. >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/28/20 10:58 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: >>>>> My RV-10 has the standard Hartzell 2-blade constant speed prop, purchased new. To this point, I've done nothing but lubricate and inspect it annually, as well as file out nicks. I know Hartzell says 6 years for an overhaul, but given limited use (550 hours total time) and the fact that it's always hangared, that seemed > excessively conservative. It's also not leaking any oil (still looks > like new inside the spinner). However, I'm now approaching 10 years, so > curious to hear what people recommend. Thanks! >>>>> -Rob >>>>> -- >>>>> Rob Kochman >>>>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 >>>>> Kirkland, WA >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > >


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    Time: 07:43:06 AM PST US
    From: Lenard Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Subject: Re: When to service the propeller?
    This is what they put in my prop: Lenny > On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > com> > > The only one I found is: > https://www.skygeek.com/nyco-gn-148-blue-grease-400-gram-cartridge.html > $23 >> On 1/3/2021 4:20 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> Here=99s a photo of the new grease Hartzell is now using. It appe ars that it=99s only available through Hartzell authorized service cen ters. The shop I used wanted $20~$25 per tube. >> It would be nice if one of the major retailers would start stocking. I s uspect it may take some time for them to begin aware of the change and deman d to warrant stocking. >> If anyone finds alternate sources, please let the list know. >> Bob >> Image.jpeg >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matr onics.com> on behalf of Bob Leffler <bob@thelefflers.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:53:09 AM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? >> I was surprised with that as well when I had my prop serviced recently. The shop included a tube of the new grease. I have yet to find a source f or the new grease other than a prop shop. >> Anyone have a solution for stopping the grease from breaking down and lea king from the gun during hot weather? With just six pumps per condition in spection, it would be nice to use a tube on more than one inspection. >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matr onics.com> on behalf of Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:26:10 AM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? >> On that note,I read recently that hartzell started using a new grease not long ago. So if you have a new prop or get an overhaul or reseal, make sure to verify the type of grease because you may need to order that special typ e of grease from there on. >> Tim >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote : g.com> >>> As for the grease in the prop, you should use whatever the prop shop ins talled when it was last reassembled, and there should be a sticker identifyi ng that grease. Most until recent years used Aeroshell 6. >>>> On 12/28/2020 10:50 PM, Lenny Iszak wrote: >>>> I had mine (2009 prop with 700 hrs) overhauled a few months ago at Palm Beach Aircraft Propeller, for $2845 + tax. >>>> The seals in it where in pretty bad shape, it was covering my windshiel d with grease after every flight. A pretty good sign that it needed some TLC . >>>> Btw, Hartzell recommends a new grease now, so if you do get an overhaul , grab a couple of tubes from the prop shop, as it=99s otherwise unobt anium from the popular aircraft parts stores. >>>> Lenny >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: >>>>> Rob, >>>>> You're not alone. I am overdue on my Hartzell also. Nearly 15 years. >>>>> But, I did have mine re-sealed a few years ago. I am sure that your >>>>> prop will still be functioning fine a while from now, but, I'd say >>>>> plan on a 10 year at least. >>>>> I've had mine off a few times for various reasons. Inside the >>>>> crank cavity into the prop hub, you've almost certainly got a lot of >>>>> gray paste build-up that happens over time. I've cleaned mine >>>>> out whenever the prop has been off. This winter I plan to get >>>>> the prop overhauled, and it will be interesting to hear how it >>>>> goes. I agree that 6 years and 550 hours would seem pretty short. >>>>> To me it's like how Lycoming recommends an engine rebuild in 12 years >>>>> or 2000 hours. But, there still is a point where an overhaul is due >>>>> and I think I'm there. I intended to do it when I replaced the engine >>>>> this summer, but this wasn't a good year for it $$$. >>>>> I have heard overhauls run $2500, but the place near me charges >>>>> $3000. Would be nice to hear what kinds of quotes other people have >>>>> gotten, and where they recommend. >>>>> Tim >>>>> On 12/28/20 10:58 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: >>>>>> My RV-10 has the standard Hartzell 2-blade constant speed prop, purch ased new. To this point, I've done nothing but lubricate and inspect it annu ally, as well as file out nicks. I know Hartzell says 6 years for an overhau l, but given limited use (550 hours total time) and the fact that it's alwa ys hangared, that seemed >> excessively conservative. It's also not leaking any oil (still looks like new inside the spinner). However, I'm now approaching 10 years, so curious t o hear what people recommend. Thanks! >>>>>> -Rob >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rob Kochman >>>>>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 >>>>>> Kirkland, WA >> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> >> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >


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    Time: 09:24:20 AM PST US
    From: William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: When to service the propeller?
    The manufacturer describes is as follows: (interesting that they list it as a wheel bearing grease) *The newest high-temperature range grease for longer wheel bearing life* DESCRIPTION NYCO GREASE GN 3058 is a white lithium complex thickened synthetic grease designed to operate in salty and humid environment in a very wide temperature range going from -54=C2=B0C to +175=C2=B0C. APPLICATIONS - Wheels - Landing gears - Heavy loaded systems MAIN BENEFITS - High load carrying capabilities, - Outstanding resistance to water washout and to high temperatures, - Very good protection against corrosion even in the presence of salt water. On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Lenard Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrote: > This is what they put in my prop: > > > Lenny > > > > On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > ng.com> > > > > The only one I found is: > > https://www.skygeek.com/nyco-gn-148-blue-grease-400-gram-cartridge.html > > $23 > >> On 1/3/2021 4:20 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: > >> Here=99s a photo of the new grease Hartzell is now using. It a ppears > that it=99s only available through Hartzell authorized service cent ers. The > shop I used wanted $20~$25 per tube. > >> It would be nice if one of the major retailers would start stocking. I > suspect it may take some time for them to begin aware of the change and > demand to warrant stocking. > >> If anyone finds alternate sources, please let the list know. > >> Bob > >> Image.jpeg > >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com < > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Bob Leffler < > bob@thelefflers.com> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:53:09 AM > >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? > >> I was surprised with that as well when I had my prop serviced > recently. The shop included a tube of the new grease. I have yet to > find a source for the new grease other than a prop shop. > >> Anyone have a solution for stopping the grease from breaking down and > leaking from the gun during hot weather? With just six pumps per > condition inspection, it would be nice to use a tube on more than one > inspection. > >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com < > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Tim Olson > <Tim@MyRV10.com> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:26:10 AM > >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? > >> On that note,I read recently that hartzell started using a new grease > not long ago. So if you have a new prop or get an overhaul or reseal, mak e > sure to verify the type of grease because you may need to order that > special type of grease from there on. > >> Tim > >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> > wrote: ting.com> > >>> As for the grease in the prop, you should use whatever the prop shop > installed when it was last reassembled, and there should be a sticker > identifying that grease. Most until recent years used Aeroshell 6. > >>>> On 12/28/2020 10:50 PM, Lenny Iszak wrote: > lenard@rapiddecision.com> > >>>> I had mine (2009 prop with 700 hrs) overhauled a few months ago at > Palm Beach Aircraft Propeller, for $2845 + tax. > >>>> The seals in it where in pretty bad shape, it was covering my > windshield with grease after every flight. A pretty good sign that it > needed some TLC. > >>>> Btw, Hartzell recommends a new grease now, so if you do get an > overhaul, grab a couple of tubes from the prop shop, as it=99s othe rwise > unobtanium from the popular aircraft parts stores. > >>>> Lenny > >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > >>>>> Rob, > >>>>> You're not alone. I am overdue on my Hartzell also. Nearly 15 > years. > >>>>> But, I did have mine re-sealed a few years ago. I am sure that you r > >>>>> prop will still be functioning fine a while from now, but, I'd say > >>>>> plan on a 10 year at least. > >>>>> I've had mine off a few times for various reasons. Inside the > >>>>> crank cavity into the prop hub, you've almost certainly got a lot o f > >>>>> gray paste build-up that happens over time. I've cleaned mine > >>>>> out whenever the prop has been off. This winter I plan to get > >>>>> the prop overhauled, and it will be interesting to hear how it > >>>>> goes. I agree that 6 years and 550 hours would seem pretty short. > >>>>> To me it's like how Lycoming recommends an engine rebuild in 12 yea rs > >>>>> or 2000 hours. But, there still is a point where an overhaul is du e > >>>>> and I think I'm there. I intended to do it when I replaced the engi ne > >>>>> this summer, but this wasn't a good year for it $$$. > >>>>> I have heard overhauls run $2500, but the place near me charges > >>>>> $3000. Would be nice to hear what kinds of quotes other people hav e > >>>>> gotten, and where they recommend. > >>>>> Tim > >>>>> On 12/28/20 10:58 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > >>>>>> My RV-10 has the standard Hartzell 2-blade constant speed prop, > purchased new. To this point, I've done nothing but lubricate and inspect > it annually, as well as file out nicks. I know Hartzell says 6 years for an > overhaul, but given limited use (550 hours total time) and the fact that > it's always hangared, that seemed > >> excessively conservative. It's also not leaking any oil (still looks > like new inside the spinner). However, I'm now approaching 10 years, so > curious to hear what people recommend. Thanks! > >>>>>> -Rob > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Rob Kochman > >>>>>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > >>>>>> Kirkland, WA > >> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> > >> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ======================== =========== > ======================== =========== > ======================== =========== > ======================== =========== > ======================== =========== > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:03:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: When to service the propeller?
    From: Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net>
    > Anyone have a solution for stopping the grease from breaking down and > leaking from the gun during hot weather? With just six pumps per > condition inspection, it would be nice to use a tube on more than one > inspection. On my grease gun, I can pull the T handle all the way back, rotate the handle (takes some trial and error) to find the T handle orientation where the handle stays pulled out. This keeps the grease from being under constant spring pressure, which helps prevent the oil from separating from the wax (on Aeroshell 6). BTW, Aeroshell now extends the shelf life of Aeroshell 6 if unopened and stored at constant temp: https://jota.net.pl/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Change-of-AeroShell-Grease-Shelf-Life-12062019.pdf -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) CFI, A&P RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold RV-10 N31TD -- 1200 hrs Bob Leffler wrote on 12/29/2020 10:53 AM: > I was surprised with that as well when I had my prop serviced > recently. The shop included a tube of the new grease. I have yet to > find a source for the new grease other than a prop shop. > > Anyone have a solution for stopping the grease from breaking down and > leaking from the gun during hot weather? With just six pumps per > condition inspection, it would be nice to use a tube on more than one > inspection. > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Tim Olson > <Tim@MyRV10.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:26:10 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: When to service the propeller? > > On that note,I read recently that hartzell started using a new grease > not long ago. So if you have a new prop or get an overhaul or reseal, > make sure to verify the type of grease because you may need to order > that special type of grease from there on. > Tim > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > > > > > As for the grease in the prop, you should use whatever the prop shop > installed when it was last reassembled, and there should be a sticker > identifying that grease. Most until recent years used Aeroshell 6. > > > >> On 12/28/2020 10:50 PM, Lenny Iszak wrote: > >> I had mine (2009 prop with 700 hrs) overhauled a few months ago at > Palm Beach Aircraft Propeller, for $2845 + tax. > >> The seals in it where in pretty bad shape, it was covering my > windshield with grease after every flight. A pretty good sign that it > needed some TLC. > >> Btw, Hartzell recommends a new grease now, so if you do get an > overhaul, grab a couple of tubes from the prop shop, as its otherwise > unobtanium from the popular aircraft parts stores. > >> Lenny > >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob, > >>> You're not alone. I am overdue on my Hartzell also. Nearly 15 years. > >>> But, I did have mine re-sealed a few years ago. I am sure that your > >>> prop will still be functioning fine a while from now, but, I'd say > >>> plan on a 10 year at least. > >>> > >>> I've had mine off a few times for various reasons. Inside the > >>> crank cavity into the prop hub, you've almost certainly got a lot of > >>> gray paste build-up that happens over time. I've cleaned mine > >>> out whenever the prop has been off. This winter I plan to get > >>> the prop overhauled, and it will be interesting to hear how it > >>> goes. I agree that 6 years and 550 hours would seem pretty short. > >>> To me it's like how Lycoming recommends an engine rebuild in 12 years > >>> or 2000 hours. But, there still is a point where an overhaul is due > >>> and I think I'm there. I intended to do it when I replaced the engine > >>> this summer, but this wasn't a good year for it $$$. > >>> > >>> I have heard overhauls run $2500, but the place near me charges > >>> $3000. Would be nice to hear what kinds of quotes other people have > >>> gotten, and where they recommend. > >>> Tim > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12/28/20 10:58 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > >>>> My RV-10 has the standard Hartzell 2-blade constant speed prop, > purchased new. To this point, I've done nothing but lubricate and > inspect it annually, as well as file out nicks. I know Hartzell says 6 > years for an overhaul, but given limited use (550 hours total time) > and the fact that it's always hangared, that seemed excessively > conservative. It's also not leaking any oil (still looks like new > inside the spinner). However, I'm now approaching 10 years, so curious > to hear what people recommend. Thanks! > >>>> -Rob > >>>> -- > >>>> Rob Kochman > >>>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > >>>> Kirkland, WA > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > >


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    Time: 04:52:00 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing (aileron) got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, since I have 2 planes that could use them. Tim


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    Time: 05:18:52 PM PST US
    From: Richard Gurley <rngurley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    I have an older never installed servo that I am more than willing to sell. Let me know if you are interested. Dick Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > > Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing (aileron) got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like > the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, > and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to > tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything > inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or > has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? > Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, > since I have 2 planes that could use them. > Tim > > >


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    Time: 05:19:11 PM PST US
    From: Richard McBride <rick.mcbride@me.com>
    Subject: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    Tim, I have the servo youre looking for and it has never been used. I can provide you pics and details if you wish. Ill take $375 plus shipping if youre interested. Rick McBride > On Jan 3, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > > Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing (aileron) got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like > the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, > and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to > tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything > inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or > has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? > Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, > since I have 2 planes that could use them. > Tim


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    Time: 06:32:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    From: Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net>
    Photos from my tear down of failed roll servo: https://vansairforce.net/community/showthread.php?t=185735 I think roll servos are about $500. -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) CFI, A&P RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold RV-10 N31TD -- 1200 hrs Tim Olson wrote on 1/3/2021 7:51 PM: > > Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing (aileron) > got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like > the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, > and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to > tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything > inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or > has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? > Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and > working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, > since I have 2 planes that could use them. > Tim > >


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    Time: 08:38:36 PM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    Ive never torn one apart, but you may be able to contact Bruce at Mid Continent, as hey are the TruTrak service center. Best option is finding someone who has one, which has already been offered. Going price for a used one should be about $250. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. 352-427-0285 jesse@saintaviation.com Sent from my iPad > On Jan 3, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > > Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing (aileron) got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like > the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, > and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to > tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything > inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or > has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? > Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, > since I have 2 planes that could use them. > Tim > > >


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    Time: 08:53:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Thanks to those who have replied so far. I do have a friend somewhat near by that has a pair of servos that he isn't using that he's been meaning to sell, so I'm going to take him up on that offer so that I have some spares. Tim, your servo issues were a little shocking to read. I hadn't seen those threads. And even more shocking to hear it wasn't a single incident. In the end, it was comforting seeing the post that said they have adjusted the pin and hole size to prevent further issues. That's probably why mine that's a 2005 variety is fine, but that some of the newer ones are having issues. The ones I'll be getting from my friend are newer, so I should plan to inspect and secure those roll pins before ever using them. Your pics were good. In the meantime, I removed the motor from my gear box. Everything in my gear box is fine. The motor itself is where my issues were, so it's a bit different. What I found was that if I let the motor sit, it would spin more freely for a revolution or so, but then get tight and stay tight, until I let it sit a while again. Not sure why..maybe some magnetics from rotating it? Anyway, after pulling the center core out, I didn't see any real issues, but, one of the 4 screws was corroded so obviously moisture was in that area. And there was corrosion around the bottom plate where it meets the round sealing area on the motor. The bearings on the motor were fine, and I didn't see any real visible reason for it jamming. However, after pulling it apart, some particles came out, probably either being corrosion that was crumbling and released, or something that was inside. Not a lot, mind you, but the tolerance of that rotor in the surrounding coils is pretty tight. And once I put it back in, it spun much more freely. That was it, for tonight. Tomorrow night I'll take some gentle scotch brite to it inside to make sure any rust and corrosion is gone, and wipe it down with something to clean it up. Maybe throw a little lightweight oil on the bearings, and put some light oil on the screw shafts to keep them a little more corrosion free. I think this servo of mine will still have life left in it. With 2 planes to maintain though, I'll gladly keep a pair of servos around for spares. Thanks to you all again for the replies. I'll take some pics if I can remember to do that when it's apart again. Tim On 1/3/2021 8:30 PM, Tim Lewis wrote: > > Photos from my tear down of failed roll servo: > https://vansairforce.net/community/showthread.php?t=185735 > > I think roll servos are about $500. >


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    Time: 08:54:16 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    TruTrak overhauled a roll servo for me in Aug 2019. The cost was $380 and it looked <brand new>, including the serial number! They turned it around the same day. On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 16:55 Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing (aileron) > got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like > the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, > and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to > tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything > inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or > has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? > Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and > working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, > since I have 2 planes that could use them. > Tim > >


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    Time: 09:09:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TruTrak C servo repair/teardown
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Was that when it was still TruTrak, or through Bendix? I'm a little leery of anything but the original TruTrak folks, since the stories become less positive after that purchase. I would hope that good service will continue, but I'd feel more comfortable if the TruTrak guys still do their own repairs. Tim On 1/3/2021 10:53 PM, David Saylor wrote: > TruTrak overhauled a roll servo for me in Aug 2019. The cost was $380 > and it looked <brand new>, including the serial number! They turned > it around the same day. > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 16:55 Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com > <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote: > > > Hey all, my 16 year old TruTrack DSB-C type servo in my wing > (aileron) > got tight and binding. Interestingly it releases once in a while like > the clutch releases but then binds again. So I pulled it out today, > and will start looking into replacement. I would also like to > tear it open if it's something that I can do without wrecking anything > inside, to see what broke. Does anyone have any teardown pics or > has anyone had a servo rebuilt by TruTrak (I guess now Bendix) before? > Just interested in how much $$ I'll be out to get it fixed up and > working again. I'd like to keep one as a spare from here out, > since I have 2 planes that could use them. > Tim > ========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > >




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