---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/02/21: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:55 AM - Re: Another reality check (Don McDonald) 2. 07:49 AM - Re: Another reality check (Lenny Iszak) 3. 08:10 AM - Re: Another reality check (Kelly McMullen) 4. 08:37 AM - Re: Another reality check (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:38 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another reality check Patrick,just curious, what prop are you running? On Friday, April 2, 2021, 02:00:30 AM CDT, Patrick Thyssen wrote: I think The new motor mount is like the 14. Where the cushions are, it =99s not solid but swivel or rotates. So the arm from nose gear to cushi on is completely different. Cannot use old with new. No spacers under cap i t=99s spring. I don=99t have the info with me but that=99 s the jest. Replaced nose gear once and then they=99re design it. Wal low out bolt holes cracks to look for I gave up ordered new upgrade kit. Right now doing gear weldments both of mine cracked. As per SB. Not much f un. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > .com> > > Changed in what way? Just curious, as can find no mention of it. > All of the SB on nose gear involve parts not on the mount. I just finishe d reviewing every service bulletin as part of my condition inspection. Mayb e there are improvements, but none are reflected in SBs. I see the part num ber has had a -1 added, but see no information about what is actually diffe rent. Would love to know what, when, why. > Kelly > >> On 4/1/2021 5:49 PM, Patrick Thyssen wrote: >> It has changed there=99s new design in it. Look at new parts. I or dered it a couple months ago it was 6-9 months then. Replacing original one . 2250$ >> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>> >>> =EF=BB >>> AFAIK nothing has changed on the engine mount for the last 15 years, an d the engine variety doesn't matter unless it takes something other than Dy nafocal, and even then the mounting ears can be changed. >>> So engine mount from any builder that is further back on their build wo uld work. >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 1:50 PM eagerlee > wrote: >>> ast.net >>>=C2- =C2- > >>> >>>=C2- =C2- I just learned of the ten month lead time on the RV-10 eng ine >>>=C2- =C2- mount for a Lycoming XIO-540. Bummer! Is anyone willing to swap >>>=C2- =C2- delivery for my January of 2022? I will soon be ready to d o my >>>=C2- =C2- engine install using Van=99s kits and I am a patient builder (the >>>=C2- =C2- only way to be, right?) but if there is a way to improve m y >>>=C2- =C2- timeline I would consider it. Thank you all for being a gr eat >>>=C2- =C2- support mechanism in this journey. >>> >>>=C2- =C2- Paul >>>=C2- =C2- Kit # 203 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>=C2- =C2- Read this topic online here: >>> >>>=C2- =C2- http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=501194#50119 4 >>>=C2- =C2- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>=C2- =C2- ========== >>>=C2- =C2- -List" rel="noreferrer" >>>=C2- =C2- target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10- List >>>=C2- =C2- ========== >>>=C2- =C2- FORUMS - >>>=C2- =C2- eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>=C2- =C2- ========== >>>=C2- =C2- WIKI - >>>=C2- =C2- errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>=C2- =C2- ========== >>>=C2- =C2- b Site - >>>=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admi n. >>>=C2- =C2- rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics. com/contribution >>>=C2- =C2- ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================= ============ ============ ======================= = ========= =============== ==================== ==== ====== > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:11 AM PST US From: Lenny Iszak Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another reality check The new engine mount looks like this: Lenny > On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Don McDonald wrote: > > Patrick,just curious, what prop are you running? > > > On Friday, April 2, 2021, 02:00:30 AM CDT, Patrick Thyssen wrote: > > > I think The new motor mount is like the 14. Where the cushions are, it=99s not solid but swivel or rotates. So the arm from nose gear to cushion is completely different. Cannot use old with new. No spacers under cap it=99s spring. I don=99t have the info with me but that=99s the jest. Replaced nose gear once and then they=99re design it. Wallow out bolt holes cracks to look for I gave up ordered new upgrade kit. > Right now doing gear weldments both of mine cracked. As per SB. Not much fun. > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 1, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: > > > > > > > Changed in what way? Just curious, as can find no mention of it. > > All of the SB on nose gear involve parts not on the mount. I just finished reviewing every service bulletin as part of my condition inspection. Maybe there are improvements, but none are reflected in SBs. I see the part number has had a -1 added, but see no information about what is actually different. Would love to know what, when, why. > > Kelly > > > >> On 4/1/2021 5:49 PM, Patrick Thyssen wrote: > >> It has changed there=99s new design in it. Look at new parts. I ordered it a couple months ago it was 6-9 months then. Replacing original one. 2250$ > >> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: > >>> > >>> =EF=BB > >>> AFAIK nothing has changed on the engine mount for the last 15 years, and the engine variety doesn't matter unless it takes something other than Dynafocal, and even then the mounting ears can be changed. > >>> So engine mount from any builder that is further back on their build would work. > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 1:50 PM eagerlee >> wrote: > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> I just learned of the ten month lead time on the RV-10 engine > >>> mount for a Lycoming XIO-540. Bummer! Is anyone willing to swap > >>> delivery for my January of 2022? I will soon be ready to do my > >>> engine install using Van=99s kits and I am a patient builder (the > >>> only way to be, right?) but if there is a way to improve my > >>> timeline I would consider it. Thank you all for being a great > >>> support mechanism in this journey. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> Kit # 203 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Read this topic online here: > >>> > >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=501194#501194 > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ========== > >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" > >>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >>> ========== > >>> FORUMS - > >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > >>> ========== > >>> WIKI - > >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > >>> ========== > >>> b Site - > >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >>> ========== > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ========== ============= ====================== ========== =============== ==================== ===== ===== > ======================== =========== > ========== > ======================== =========== > ========== > ======================== =========== > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another reality check From: Kelly McMullen Yes, as I said to Patrick in a private email, once it was pointed out on the revised plans, the change to the nose gear attach is obvious, but Vans does not have anything on their support web page, no change description, no SB, no nothing. We only have the SB on the attach at the bottom of the mount, which is a change to the nose gear itself. As well as the SB for the nose gear donut mounting plate from several years back. Wonder if the new engine mount and shock disk mount has benefits to those of us that only operate off paved runways (not to mention making greaser landings like all RV pilots 8^)). Perhaps reduce potential for nose gear shimmy? I see Van's finally addressed the nose wheel bearing torque issue that the early builders pointed out in time for later builders, to get the Matco axle or other axle that allowed torquing regardless of how tight the axle bolt is. On 4/2/2021 7:48 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote: > The new engine mount looks like this: > > > > > Lenny > >> On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Don McDonald > > wrote: >> >> Patrick,just curious, what prop are you running? >> >> >> On Friday, April 2, 2021, 02:00:30 AM CDT, Patrick Thyssen >> > wrote: >> >> >> I think The new motor mount is like the 14. Where the cushions are, >> its not solid but swivel or rotates. So the arm from nose gear to >> cushion is completely different. Cannot use old with new. No spacers >> under cap its spring. I dont have the info with me but thats the >> jest. Replaced nose gear once and then theyre design it. Wallow out >> bolt holes cracks to look for I gave up ordered new upgrade kit. >> Right now doing gear weldments both of mine cracked. As per SB. Not >> much fun. >> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another reality check From: Tim Olson Interesting. I had no idea. That's exactly like my RV-14. There are things I like about it, but, it is a noisy system on bumpy taxiways. Tim On 4/2/21 9:48 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote: > The new engine mount looks like this: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.